(Seven Posts in Seven Days – Day 4)
Cecilia, the fact that you have two small children means that you of all people should be paying attention everyday. It’s their future, not yours that will be most impacted. I wish you the best of luck making your decision.
But onto another undecided out there. So I love my Whoopi Goldberg. And that Joy Behar makes me laugh. Barbara Walters has lost some of her edge, but she will always have my respect for her accomplishments. And then there is Moron Hasselbeck. Enough said. But, now there is that other one. Cherry? Cheryl? Philmore? I don’t remember her name. She’s pretty forgettable. Yesterday she announced that she was still undecided. OK. That’s it. She’s a jackass. I mean this woman is on a show called The View. What exactly is it that she can’t see? She has met, in person, all the big players in this little card game. Talk about being spoon fed. And as a fellow plus-size gal I know that she has had more than her share from that spoon. I am sure qood people like Cecilia wouldn’t squander such an opportunity. It’s five days away. I’ve got no more patience. What’s her name has to go.
So several of you have emailed me about something happening in California. Now, a lot of crazy stuff goes on in that state and so I may be getting this a little mixed up. Evidently they are wanting to pass a constitutional amendment to make only marriages between a man and a woman valid in California. Talk about an ignorant pot calling a gay kettle black. Somebody really should check the latest divorce rates because clearly many marriages everywhere are not valid.
Now I am an old broad. We didn’t talk about this stuff. I really don’t know why gay people want to get married. It’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Just ask Harold. But I guess if one consenting adult wants to declare their love for another, why would anyone have an issue? I do know one gay couple. Margaret’s nephew and his friend have been together for several years. They are a lovely couple and make me laugh and feel special every time I see them. A couple of years ago Texas passed one of these constitutional amendments. The place where Harold and I go to vote is actually an elementary school in the neighborhood. On that particular election day I was appalled to see all the signs that said “Marriage Should Be Between a Man and Woman Only”. As Harold drove us into the parking lot to vote, I looked out the window at those signs and realized that many parents had driven their kids to school that morning driving past those very signs. I wonder if any of them had the same reaction I did – those signs reminded me of the little signs we used to have back in the day that said “Whites Only”. Think about it.
And now I must go. This seven posts in seven days thing isn’t easy. Happy Halloween everyone.
For those of you that keep emailing me about the t-shirts… Margaret’s nephew is an artist and he created some cartoons. My grandson Matthew put them on something called Cafe Press. We told the boys they could keep whatever money they made. A little fun money at their age will be much better used than what Margaret and I would do with it. It think they’ve made about $100 so good for them.
Thanks for stopping by everyone. I mean it. Really.
Margaret and Helen 
This design is spectacular! You obviously know how to keep a reader amused.
Between your wit and your videos, I was almost moved to start my own blog (well,
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By: mix on February 4, 2014
at 7:24 AM
1 Timothy 2:9: “I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.”
Gee, someone should inform Sarah Palin that spending $150,000 dollars on clothes and adornment might not be Biblical.
Ephesians 6:5-9: “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear…”
I guess Abraham Lincoln should have read his Bible before starting all that ruckus!
Timothy 2:11-14: “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing – if they continue in faith, love, and holiness with propriety.”
Sorry gals, I guess that leaves Margaret and Helen out of the holy loop! (You certainly aren’t silent. I guess I don’t know about the rest.)
My POINT is that the Bible has ALWAYS been used by extremist and fundamentalists to justify discrimination and hate. Religion, like language, is a living thing and is changed by millions of people and ideas and by the times and cultures in which they have lived and are living. Once a language stops evolving with the culture it becomes extinct. Who speaks Sanskrit anymore? The same can be said for religion. Are there any modern-day Puritans?
The message of Christianity is not dead, however. Consider “What Would Jesus Do in 2008?”
Love your blog girls.
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By: independentstinker on November 3, 2008
at 3:26 PM
Helen, You are my new hero. Forget the out of context scripture quoting from David – you have hit the nail square on the head.
As a people we always seem to have to make some group, some subset of people suffer to make ourselves feel better and right, starting in this country with the Irish, the Chinese laborers, the Native Americans, African Americans, people in interracial marriages, immigrants (legal and not) and of course, the gays and anyone who thinks and lives their life outside of the mainstream, whatever that is.
I applaud people like yourself, especially of your generation who can look beyond what they have always been “carefully taught” to see what is right in treating people with dignity and like fellow human beings.
Thank you –
Oh – and I agree – she is a bitch!!
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By: Mike M on November 3, 2008
at 8:54 AM
To A girl: Who said we were talking about sex? Who are you to limit the dependents of a family? You give excuses for making the other scenerios illegal, but you miss the glaring fact that homosexuals can not have children. If all Americans were homosexual, then Americans would eventually become extinct unless they adopted children from other countries. That is one logical or moral reason…survival of the country.
To smteaches: Learn the Bible. How is that people who criticize Christianity do not know their beliefs? Everything you quoted is Orthodox Judiasm, not Christianity. And no, Jesus was not crucified because he “hung out” with sinners. The Jewish leadership, Pharisees and Sadducees, got Jesus crucified because he declared himself the Messiah and was a threat to their authority. If you can see past the priestly connotations, the irony here is that the democrats and republicans are much like the pharisees and sadducees. And find me one verse where Jesus said, “I love you just as you are.” I guess the call to repentance of the whole New Testament passed you by.
To Alaska Pi: We are on a slippery slope. The call of the day is if the constitution doesn’t specifically state it, then it’s lawful. Without the Bill of Rights and other amendments, we would have lost basic human rights, such as freedom of speech. Under Bush, we would have been in a military state if it wasn’t for the Bill of Rights preventing them. But even still, these rights are infringed or stretched until the courts condemn them again and again. The problem is the “Founding Fathers” had limited foresight. If they knew that their vagueness would have lead to a slippery slope, then they would have been more specific. Without a national crisis, it’s very unlikely we will ever see a new amendment to the Constitution because of the divisiveness of the 2 monopolistic political parties. Supreme Court decisions can be changed.
All it would take is enough of a group to advocate a certain issue for a slippery slope to happen, say…illegal immigration. Neither party wants to deal with it fearing that it will cost them a lot of votes in Florida and the Mexican border states. Same-sex marriage is only an issue because their are enough homosexuals and enough “who cares” heterosexuals in the country, but yet not enough for the 2 main presidential candidates to endorse it. Freedom does have it’s limits and it should. Changing marriage laws from a man and a woman to a man or a woman to whomever or whatever is such a limit that needs protecting, just like other limits of freedom such as murder, rape, robbery, incest, etc.. needs protecting.
You may not envision a slippery slope now, but neither did the “Founding Fathers” back in 1787.
To Gregg and James: Where in the Bible does God or Jesus talk about gays through man? No twisting the meaning and not my words here.
“You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.” (Leviticus 18:22)
“If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” (Leviticus 20:13)
“Some Pharisees came to Jesus to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause whatever?” “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.” “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?” Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 19:3-9)
“Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor boy prostitutes, nor practicing homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor robbers, will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
“realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.” (1 Timothy 1:9-11)
“Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” (Romans 1:26-27)
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By: David on November 3, 2008
at 8:42 AM
Dear Helen
I’m a South African (of colour) who grew up during Apartheid so I saw those “Whites Only” signs first-hand. I know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of that kind of institutionalised prejudice and I think your comparison is spot on.
I don’t see any reason why gays cannot be afforded exactly the same legal rights as non-gays. How on earth gay marriage threatens the institution of marriage is beyond me.
We are all human beings, infinite in our variety, but all still human. I feel so downhearted when I see so much effort being put into discriminating against gays.
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By: Ishtar on November 3, 2008
at 7:30 AM
You are right, KS. Remember, SHerri sits next to EH. EH could smack her upside the head.
VOTE NO ON PROP 8!
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By: Kim on November 2, 2008
at 4:52 PM
I record The View everyday so I can fastforward when EH starts to sound like SP. I think Sherri Shepherd has made up her mind and plans to vote for Obama. She says she’s undecided because she’s afraid Elizabeth won’t like her and her decision.
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By: KS in Ohio on November 2, 2008
at 4:07 PM
What I don’t understand is why Florida’s Amendment 2 is not making the headlines as much as Prop 8. They are nearly the exact same law! Marriage between a man and woman will be the only thing recognized.
Le sigh.
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By: Cora on November 2, 2008
at 3:29 PM
I just discovered your blog and you are a hoot! But more importantly, I love how you are speaking frankly and directly about important issues. I appreciate the sane voice.
Mel
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By: melchristopher on November 2, 2008
at 12:20 PM
Wow, the guy showed up who compares homosexual marriage to people marrying dogs. Took you awhile.
Yes, because intelligent, consenting adults of the same sex marrying each other is exactly like marrying a canine, or any other animal. Oh, and yeah, while we’re legalizing gay marriage we should go ahead and allow incest and change laws about rape. Oh, and murder…certainly two consenting adults being allowed to enter into a loving marriage is exactly like murder, so let’s start allowing that too.
If that’s all you have to throw out there, it’s better left unsaid because you just showed yourself to be an ASS of the highest order, and it shouldn’t be legal to marry you. These ridiculous reasons that come out of the Christian right for why gay marriage should be illegal are insulting to the intelligence of the human race.
You say this absolute BS to stir people up, and it does work, because you may or may not be joking, but a lot of people truly think the things you said. And they are scary, backwards, closeminded people.
People like you, David, and those that think like you, are the exact reason this country needs to move away from the Christian right ideals-and certainly why we can’t afford to move closer to them.
As others have said, calling them Christian seems to go against that word. Religious zealots-though what religion they follow I do not know.
OBAMA ’08!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By: Erin on November 2, 2008
at 8:34 AM
Hi Helen and Margaret,
It’s James and Gregg and yes we are a gay couple if you have been reading your posts then you know that we have been following your essays for quite some time and love them. We live in the state in question “CALIFORNIA” and just got married earlier this month (I hope it lasts) VOTE NO ON 8.
Anyway thought i is ironic that both the Mormon and Catholic religions are the biggest pushers for the proposition 8, and being that they want to protect marriage…okay the mormons that is the pot calling the kettle black, hipocrits they want to protect marriage so they say, well so which wife are they talking about the first one or number 12? Polygamy isn’t legal but that doesn’t stop them and we in california aren’t running to Utah saying anything about it (Mormons mind your own state). As for the Catholics well being that i was raised one and went through 7 years of the school I feel fairly knowledgeable about them… was even a Eucharistic Minister. But its funny how they are opposed to GAY marriage when 1. they won’t even let their own priests marry (hmmm) then 2. that those same priests who are preaching this B.S. are out there molesting your kids. So what’s wrong with this picture.
And by the way all you religious fanatics opposed to gay marriage. I pose this question to you. If the bible is written by men learning through the eyes of God, tell me where in God’s writing in the 10 Commandments does it say anything about Gays? I don’t recall seeing much in there about Gays. Then also in the New Testament as far as I know our Loving Lord Jesus has always taught Love, not hate, and even the prostitutes were accepted for whom they were, so how come you don’t come off your high and mighty and follow what GOD and JESUS teaches instead of what you twist it to mean.
Okay i am stepping off of my soap box, back to you Helen and Margaret.
Gregg and James in California
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By: Gregg and James on November 2, 2008
at 1:18 AM
Tens of thousands of committed, same-sex couples are already legally married in Canada, Belgium, Norway, the Netherlands, Spain, and South Africa…..yet they do NOT have people marrying blood relatives, animals, or children.
David, your arguments are the same arguments used in this country just fifty years ago when it was illegal for white persons to marry black persons. Same old arguments, same old prejudices, same old fear-mongering, same old ignorance.
It’s interesting, isn’t it, that the only people who are ever against extending equality and civil rights to others are the people who already have them?
WWJD? Actually, Jesus was crucified by the religious and political right, who hated Him because He hung out with the “sinners” — the prostitutes, the tax collectors, the lepers, the unclean, the “others”. JWD what He always did: He would say to EVERYONE “I love you just as you are. Nothing you can say or do can make me like you or love you any less. You may not be good enough for the religious, but you are good enough for me. I’m sorry they condemn you. Please know that I still love you and value you and want you to spend an eternity with me. You may come to my table JUST AS YOU ARE.” THAT’S what JWD.
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By: smteaches on November 2, 2008
at 12:09 AM
I dip my fries in mayo. Why do the catsup peeps give such a big eff???
Great post, great words. No on 8… it’s a good thing.
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By: happy zombie on November 2, 2008
at 12:08 AM
David-
You are worried about the old slippery slope thing…
We don’t HAVE to fall down the hill to enfranchise a group of Americans we have ignored.
We are capable, with eyes wide open, of crafting legislation which plants our feet right where we want them. ( Hard to believe with all the laws that get cobbled together like alphabet soup, but quite possible. ) We can and should expand civil rights to include marraige equality .
Marraige equality for gay couples , in and of itself, does not lead to the increasingly wild scenarios you propose…for cryin out loud.
Nor is out of the norm in the manner you suggest… we ladies would still be out here waiting to vote if civil rights was based on the norm you suggest…
Civil rights are based on the rights and responsibilities of citizens to fully partake of the work and benefits of their community. There is no community or court, in this country, which would view counterfitting as a possible civil right…
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By: Alaska Pi on November 1, 2008
at 11:19 PM
Thank you to many of you who made such kind and supportive comments! You are inspiring and encouraging and – like Obama – make me believe in HOPE!
And thank you to the many CA bloggers who are voting NO on Prop 8!
Reder: you missed my point entirely. I am not asking for any “special term”…I’m asking for marriage, period. You asked why I call it equality: because I do not have the same civil rights that heterosexuals have. Marriage equality is THE civil rights issue of the 21st century.
David: you say marriage has always been a religious institution. That’s not entirely correct, but let’s imagine it IS correct. Religious tenets change ALL the time. Even the most far-right-wing-conservative-evangelical-Christians-who-believe-every-word-of-the-Bible-literally have changed their religious beliefs due to changes (for the better) in cultural and societal beliefs. Afterall, the scriptures endorse polygamy and slavery and they condemn to death anyone who eats shellfish (sorry Red Lobster fans), anyone who touches the skin of a dead pig (NFL players beware), and anyone who wears clothes made with two or more different materials (sorry to the rest of the world – even if you don’t eat shellfish or play football, you’re still going to hell unless every piece of clothing you own is 100% wool, linen, or silk.)
Oh, and if your brother ever dies, the scriptures say you are obligated to buy his wife for the price of one shoe and impregnate her. If you don’t, you’ll find yourself in hell with the rest of us.
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By: smteaches on November 1, 2008
at 10:39 PM
David: You can’t compare marriage between same-sex couples to those other marriages that you offered up. Sex between family members can cause serious inbreeding issues with their potential children… the main reason that incest is illegal… because it is actually detrimental to someone’s health. The same can be said of beastiality, which certainly can’t be healthy… and the fact that an animal with no verbal skills can confirm its willingness to participate in such an act. Between adults and children is also illegal, again, as this would be taking advantage of a child’s rights. And there are some young teenagers that DO in fact get married with their parent’s consent. As far as polygamy goes, that is illegal from a economic standpoint. Polygamy would take advantage of the government’s tax system, allowing them to claim additional exemptions. It would only further allow people to purposely abuse the system. There are polygamist colonies here and there, of course… but most of their marriages only have a single legalized marriage, whereas the other marriages are only in church without a valid license.
As you can see, none of these are for religious reason.. they are simply moral or logical ideals. With religion aside (or what some would try to find as interpreted from their religion), what is logical or moral about restricting a legal marriage between two people of the same sex?
And Barb, I would totally believe that Palin does not have the capacity for feeling that loss of spending time with her children. She seems cold and heartless at times. Statements such as that one convince me of it.
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By: A girl on November 1, 2008
at 9:43 PM
Try reading first. I didn’t say all forms of government. BTW, puritans had arranged marriages and they didn’t allow marriages outside the church. It’s weird that you would bring up Puritans when they executed homosexuals.
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By: David on November 1, 2008
at 9:36 PM
You believe in folklore and call it fact. Try learning the facts first.
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By: oddjob on November 1, 2008
at 8:39 PM
Marriage has always been a religious union that eventually was backed-up by governments.
Kindly then explain why the Puritan colonists insisted that marriages not be conducted by any but civil authorities:
… the Massachusetts Puritans in 1646 passed a law making it a crime for anyone other than a magistrate — that is, a government official — to bring persons together in marriage.
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By: oddjob on November 1, 2008
at 8:38 PM
It is always, always offensive when someone compares love between a same-sex couple to murder. See above. Love is not a sin.
I love your blog. It gives me hope for the future of America.
peace out, ladies.
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By: Lisa on November 1, 2008
at 8:20 PM
I got to ask the question…Where do you draw the line? Marriage has always been a religious union that eventually was backed-up by governments. Which throws a needle in the eye of the “separation of church and state” crowd. Isn’t it the right of the government to decide what it will validate and to protect morality? If you allow same-sex marriage because it discriminates, then where do you draw the line? Do you legalize marriages between a father and a daughter? Do you legalize marriages between people and dogs? Do you legalize polygamy for those bisexuals? Do you legalize marriages between children and adults? It is the right of the government to say “this is unacceptable”, such as rape, murder, incest, fraud, robbery, etc. You still may think it is discrimination, but it is not. If someone wants to live their life, let’s say out of the norm, it’s not the government’s duty to give fair access to an establishment. For instance, if a group of Americans decides to print their own currency and they try to pay the government with that currency, then the government has the right to reject that currency as legal tender. That is what this whole same-sex marriage sounds like… let me print my own money and you must accept it because it would be discrimination not to accept it. BTW, those gay couples can get power of attorney for medical and estate issues.
WWJD? Love the sinner, hate the sin.
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By: David on November 1, 2008
at 6:54 PM
re: Gay Marriage
In the LA Times today (11/1) I there’s an op ed piece pointing out that the Mormon church of ALL groups should be “sensitive to those seeking non-traditional marriages.” The writer of the piece is a member of the Mormon History Assn. and for the record, I’m not declaring support of polygamy, but think about what she’s saying: here’s a group that has had to fight hatred and prejudice for over a century and now they’re not only perpetuating it, they’re funding it. This just drives home what a whacky, xenophobic, and CONFUSED country we live in! sigh.
The supporters of prop 8 are scaring voters by flooding the airwaves with garbage like: gay marriage will be taught in schools. As if. I’ve been a teacher for 24 years and we don’t teach marriage, hetero or otherwise, in schools . And, hell, if we did, it would be taught as a math lesson (fractions, percentages, statistics) as we calculate how many ‘traditional’ marriages fail. Talk about your reality based word-problems. bahaha!
Seriously, though, it is just heartbreaking to see how much support (and funding) hate and fear will drum up.
Helen, I’ve been checking in w. you every day since I found you. Thank you for being a life line on those days when it feels scary to feel hopeful about the election and the decision making skills of some of our citizenry.
Love you BAD, girlfriend!!!
VY
PS: Oh yeah, and i remember NO On 8 — please say “N0” to hatred, fear and discrimination. Please.
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By: VY on November 1, 2008
at 5:11 PM
Yes Helen’s commentors are almost as much fun to read as Helen.
Drew – Exactly – WWJS? “Love everyone.”
smteach – big hug. And whenever you feel it’s about you remember that it’s about THEM and what they feel inside about themselves. – which is obviously not that much.
I like the “marriage equality” take. I live in CA and the biggest funders of the yes on 8 campaign – Utah Mormons. This is being done because the so-called Christian (remember WWJS/D) groups see prop 8 as the first battle in their efforts to promote hatred and ingnorance across the nation.
Thank you so much for writing about this Helen
NO ON 8!! It’s worth saying again so
Vote for Marriage Equality – NO ON 8!
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By: JMC on November 1, 2008
at 2:00 PM
smteaches-
I am so sorry your family has not only turned their backs on you but have also actively sought to sabotage your livelihood.
Your argument for marraige equality as a recognion of kinship is the finest I have ever read or heard.
In the abstract, it has never made sense to me to deny some folks who are ready and willing to take on the responsibilities of a commitment the rights generally conferred to others who make that commitment.
I come from a mixed race marriage ( and a mixed religion marraige for that matter ) . My folks’ marraige raised some eyebrows, especially on my dad’s (white ) side, but apparently , over the years, Alaska Native heritage ended up being considered more exotic than unacceptable by most of the family.
No one ever denied them the kinship they formed…though there were plenty of questions about their judgement in picking a partner.
I hope for you what should be yours too. As someone else here said- Hang in there!!!!!!!!!!
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By: Alaska Pi on November 1, 2008
at 10:40 AM
I had my 59th birthday last week. I want to be like you two when I grow up..
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By: barryweber on November 1, 2008
at 10:36 AM
Mr. Parson,
I agree with Alaski Pi, and I would say that your use of the term Fair and Balanced gives insight into where you get your news from. You might want to take a look at just how accurate their reporting is and since this is a blog not news, she can say as many lopsided things as she wants to.
If you look at the last four Presidents, they only one who managed to balance the budget and create a surplus was Bill Clinton, and all this while having to work with a Republican controlled congress.
The only thing that George Bush has managed to do in eight years is create the largest Government and national debt in American history, completely blow the response to four major crisis, and start two wars that have sucked the life out of our country and or military. Heck of a job Bushy!
You had better just go back to watching Fixed Noise because, the truth might hurt your feelings!
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By: Steve McGovern on November 1, 2008
at 10:22 AM
Mr Parson-
Helen and Margaret,in her own quiet way, do not have to conform to your notion of fair and balanced.
This is an opinion blog…not a news station.
For my part, Helen’s synthesis and analysis of issues is better and more clear than most who make a living at it.
Whether you or I agree wiyh her or not, it’s utterly clear where she stands. We used to hold square talk in high regard…
I suppose that we lost that value when we diluted and contorted “fair and balanced ” into a joke – just as we have trashed fine old traditions like “liberal ” and “conservative” by wadding em up and stomping on em…
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By: Alaska Pi on November 1, 2008
at 9:59 AM
just found your blog.love your style.. I guess we just have to change the definiton of ‘marriage’ then .. fair enough?
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By: maria on November 1, 2008
at 9:48 AM
A friend just sent me a link to your blog and I have been reading for an hour, laughing, with tears streaming down my cheeks. Keep writing!!! I love it. If you want to check out my blog, please stop by http://holeinthedonut.com – lots of travel stuff on it.
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By: Barbara Weibel on November 1, 2008
at 9:42 AM
I can only imagine how difficult it is to write every day but I want you to know how much I appreciate your effort. Your blog lightens my spirit and affirms my belief that our country isn’t full of simple-minded people full of hatred for anyone who doesn’t fit their cookie-cutter idea of right. Thanks for shining a light into all the darkness and hate!
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By: JuliaWalters on November 1, 2008
at 9:34 AM
I find your blog a little one sided and not “fair and balanced”. If you study history you will find the economic crisis was started in the Jimmy Carter era and proceeded on down when Congress was controlled by the democrats. Barney Franks, Dodd, Pelosi, Senate majority leader Reed along with a few other liberals, did not keep the Amertican people informed about the situation, Bush included.
Just be careful where you lay the blame. Just keep it fair and balanced, if you’ve a mind to.
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By: David Parson on November 1, 2008
at 9:21 AM
OMG! Elisabeth is moron. She is from my home state and I am embarrassed to know this fact. Rhode Island had its issues and problems and she is the biggest one!
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By: Karen on November 1, 2008
at 9:00 AM
Love your blog. Our friend Tina in CA passed the link on to me and I was an instant fan. You take on the world and issues is so dead on. My partner and I had a committment ceremony in 96 in Hawaii. We didn’t care if it was legal or not but when you compared the signs to “no black” etc. it really hit home.
Also, your take on Sara Palin is right on too. She promotes red necks shooting wolves from airplanes and gives them $150 for their back paw. Isn’t there something really wrong and un Christian-like about this. Hypocracy needs to be pointed out and you are the best at it…
Have a great day. Looking forward to your next posting. In four years you could run for president!!!!
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By: Jim on November 1, 2008
at 8:43 AM
Major US media are hiding their stories about the secret tapes of Michelle Obama. API and FOX News have copies now after many people were killed who helped transfer those secret tapes to decent Americans. These patriots risked their lives to bring the tapes to the American media. People were murdered, many injured only to prevent the tapes from being released to the public.
I saw those tapes. Michelle Obama is seen on those tapes. She is seen with top terrorists, kissing them and even doing more, if you know what I mean.
Believe it or not, she is also seen with Osama bin Laden!
I was able to obtain a fraction of that tape and I am publishing it here for you, my fellow American voters. Look it up here.
I demand that these tapes are released now by FOX News which always claimed to be my friends.
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By: John McCain on November 1, 2008
at 7:09 AM
Helen, I love you more than you will ever know. Deep in the bowels of my mid-life “crisis” finding your blog has pointed me in the direction I know I want to go. I want to be that old lady that speaks her mind and eats too much cheesecake.
I’m going to start calling Bullshit where I see it.
And my brother is gay. He’s been in a relationship with someone I feel is a part of our family now for 10 years or so. He doesn’t care about getting married, but if he wanted I think he should be able to. I love what you said about the signs in the school yard. “Whites only”
I also enjoy reading your readers’ comments. So often on blogs the comments from readers are blathering foamies that make no sense or at the least aren’t worth the electrons to make them visible to the rest of the world. Your readers seem to actually have a brain and can put out a cogent thought. I guess that’s why they’re reading you!
Thank you and please don’t ever stop.
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By: Girty on November 1, 2008
at 5:02 AM
You Have A Great Blog Keep Up The Good Work ..Cheers 🙂
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By: pennyb22 on November 1, 2008
at 4:28 AM
Helen,
Do they give Pulitzers to bloggers who tell it like it is? If so, you should start thinking about an acceptance speech. If not, they should look at
your blog and start!
Keep on keeping it real……
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By: Suzie on November 1, 2008
at 4:23 AM
Helen:
I just found your website (well, OK, my brother in Maryland turned me on to it) and it is spectacular! In particular, I like one thing. There is a word that is frequently found in your posts that I don’t hear nearly frequently enough these days, and that word is “jackass”.
Thanks for significantly raising the level of political discourse on the web. Really.
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By: Willie on November 1, 2008
at 4:06 AM
Thanks, great article ❤ http://starstylefile.wordpress.com/
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By: webescape on November 1, 2008
at 3:27 AM
The morons actually say that if this does not pass then gay marriage will be taught in schools??!! WHAT! I never learned about marriage at all in school!! WTF!!
As always, another day reading…another day you are rocking!!
Obama 2008
No. on 8
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By: Tracy on November 1, 2008
at 1:56 AM
Dear Helen and Margaret,
What in the world are you two delightful women going to do after Nov 6th? I’m guessing Nov 5th you’ll break open the sherry for a little toast and Nov 6th you’ll finally get a well deserved, long and peaceful nap complete with dreams of a saner future for us all. But I’d love to hear what you have planned for the 7th!
Love to you both,
Melissa
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By: Melissa on November 1, 2008
at 1:25 AM
This isn’t a response to what has been said on the marriage topic, but a comment on what I heard Sarah Palin say on 2020 tonight. Elizabeth Vargas asked SP if she didn’t miss her children, with having to be on the campaign trail, and not being with them in their daily routines like bedtime. Sarah said, (and I quote as accurately as I remember..) “I don’t miss anything a male candidate wouldn’t miss.” I think that is what she really said. Anybody else hear that?
As a mother of 4, grandmother of 4, I have to say that statement of hers ranks right up there with all the other unbelievable things she has said over the last 8 weeks! Like “No, I didn’t hesitate for a second to accept the VP nomination!” Really? No hesitation at all? Sorry, not believable.
Any mother who gives birth to her children, nurses them, feeds them, tends them, plays with them, helps them, raises them, etc. has GOT to miss being involved in those aspects of their daily lives when other obligations prevent it! And they are only little for such a short time, and time flies! And of course, there are fathers who also do those things, and probably wish they had more time to spend with their little ones, but I just don’t buy that she doesn’t miss them any more than any “male” candidate would. Uh…do you think John McCain ever missed bathing a child and reading bedtime stories while he was campaigning? Maybe it is just me, but I have a hard time envisioning him even having such a thought. So, what was she trying to say??? That it was a sexist question? Give me a break!!!
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By: Barb on November 1, 2008
at 12:33 AM
So love your blog and you make me want to run out and vote. Then I remember that I’m Canadian ha ha.
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By: wendy roberts on November 1, 2008
at 12:15 AM
smteaches – hang in there… a better world is on the way!
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By: Tracy on November 1, 2008
at 12:11 AM
So…normally I just watch, but I consider myself a passionate watcher…I am a democrat…I am voting for Barak, so no worries there.
Here’s my issue. Tonight I had my Obama sign stolen off my lawn, and replaced with, of all things, a Bush/Cheney sign, because some Republican thought it would be funny. Funny to violate my rights by coming onto my property to steal, violating my right to free speech, violating my right by taking away my voice.
So, is it bitter if I ask that all the Republicans who voted for Bush and are going to vote for McCain encourage their children to join the Army and serve in Iraq or Afghanistan. I don’t say this lightly, I served 12 years in the Navy and 3 years in the Air Force Reserve and I’m a Gulf War Vet, so I love my country, just like they all claim to. Of course, the difference is, I would NEVER tresspass, steal, or violate to forward my opinion.
You keep writing and God willing, yes I said God willing, there are liberal Christians you know, Obama will win…sorry I vented here…take care
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By: Steve McGovern on November 1, 2008
at 12:11 AM
oops, wrong button.
continue from more McC-P than B.O.-J.B. – but we have NO on 8 signs in every window (signs are getting nicked) and today a lady with a small child rang my doorbell and thanked me for standing up for equal rights.
You see, there are so many people hoping that NO on 8 will pass and that equal rights will be for everyone in every state here in our beautiful U.S of A.
Good luck to you and your partner and I’m sorry to read how nearsided your family is.
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By: Limonie on October 31, 2008
at 11:52 PM
You have such a way with words, with taking the complex and stating it in such a way that it isn’t dumbed down but rather detangled. It’s a gift. Thank you for sharing it with us.
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By: Chris on October 31, 2008
at 11:50 PM
Mrs.Helen, thank you for your blog, I’m loving it.
and here is something for
smteaches:
I live in CA and have kids in Highschool and college, and they are out almost every night rallying for equal rights. We live in a community I believe is more McC-P than B
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By: Limonie on October 31, 2008
at 11:46 PM
AMEN to “knittergran’s” comment at 2:58 pm ! I thought the “conservative base” is for family values. John McCain had an affair with Cindy before he was divorced from his first wife. There is definitely a double standard when it comes to the Palin family and their pregnant unwed daughter.
As a retired U.S. History teacher, I believe that religion and government should never mix. There are so many different religions in our country and our elected officials represent ALL of us! No one religious group should be allowed to have that much power in government affairs or elections.
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By: Debbie on October 31, 2008
at 10:59 PM
smteach first I miss typed my ID and Fran above may have explained things although see just said that they got married in California so they can say it but still don’t have all the rights. But I still say that when we say gay marriage that is what we mean marriage and all the rights and responsibilites that go with it.
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By: reader on October 31, 2008
at 10:34 PM
smteach – I think most people (myself included) who have commented on this marriage of gay/same-sex marriage are in agreement. I see the difference between civil union and marriage. We have used the term ‘gay marriage’ to clarify that we are saying that you should have the same rights as a marriage between a man and women (which I think is what you are asking for). I also think it is up to any particular religion to decide if they want to or will marry a gay couple but not the government. However even if you are ‘married’ by a justice of the peace you are still married and are entitled to the same rights just like all the men and women who have been or will be married by a justice of the peace or any one authorized to marry some one. As soon as you start splitting hairs and coming up with special term for it you make it harder for those who disagree with the concept to accept the idea. Isn’t marriage marriage. Maybe I’m missing something in what you wrote. If that be the case I am sorry. Maybe you can be a little clear as to why you want it to be call marriage equality.
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By: reder on October 31, 2008
at 10:22 PM
My wife and I thank you for your eloquence! We got married this past September in California, even though we live in Washington State, because we wanted to be able to say we’re married, even if we don’t — yet — have all the legal rights, responsibilities and protections.
With people like you who are straightforward and honest and blunt standing up for what’s right, it makes me proud to be American, and in the last eight or so years, that’s been a feeling I haven’t had much of!
Bright blessings and Happy Halloween!
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By: Fran on October 31, 2008
at 10:21 PM
Helen, I can only hope that after 7posts in 7 days you find it a habit you can not break. Thanks for adding laughter and hope to my day.
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By: Valerie on October 31, 2008
at 10:19 PM
Dear Helen,
My partner and I have been together for nearly fourteen years. When I came out to my family, my mom said, “You’re going straight to hell & the sooner you get there, the better.” My mom & sister pray that my partner and I will be killed – and they ask others to do the same – because “it would be better for us to be dead than to be gay.” When my grandpa passed away two summers ago, my mom asked me not to come to the funeral because “the family is so grief-stricken, they just cannot deal with the gay
thing on top of everything else.” My mom & sister both called the principal of the middle school I taught at & asked him to fire me because “gay people should not be allowed to interact with children.” I haven’t been invited to a family event in over a decade.
My parents live in CA & are avid supporters of
Prop 8/McCain/Palin….who both fuel thier fires of bigotted, religious-based beliefs.
I teach middle school in small-town America. Many male teachers in my school still call the boys queer/fag/faggot when they’re frustrated w/ them for one reason or another. As a country, we are not any less racist/bigotted/prejudice than ever…we have just become quiet about it. Neverthless, racism, bigotry, and prejudiced beliefs are alive & thriving in our country. They are perpetuated in homes & passed on to children. This election has revealed these sad facts more than any other event since the Civil Rights Movement.
As you can imagine, Helen, your most recent post brought tears to my eyes & joy to my heart. Thank you for being so good-hearted, compassionate, & accepting. Thank you for taking a stand for equality & justice for ALL. And thank you for thaking the time to read my story. I mean it. Really.
Your Devoted Fan!
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By: smteaches on October 31, 2008
at 10:14 PM
Helen, you are an wonderful woman, and an amazing lady, as well as being one HELL of a damn fine old broad.
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By: Bev in Canada on October 31, 2008
at 10:10 PM
Check out the Gov Palin Mansion in Juneau and pictures from the Juneau, AK Obama rally!!
Vote Obama!!! It is time for history to be made!
http://richalaska.blogspot.com/
Let us get rid of of the Bush Policies!
Thanks Helen and Margaret for your great blog!
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By: JuneauJoe on October 31, 2008
at 10:06 PM
I’d like to ask fans of this site not to use the terms “gay marriage/same-sex marriage”
and instead use the terms “marriage equality for gay couples/same-sex couples.”
“Gay marriage” implies we are asking for special rights when, in fact, we are asking for equal rights.
There are hundreds of thousand of same-sex couples living in the US who share the same
responsibilities as their heterosexual counterparts, but do not receive the same
recognition or protections for their families. For example, same-sex couples cannot obtain family health coverage, bereavement leave after the death of a partner, inheritance rights, immunity from having to testify against a spouse in court, burial rights, the ability to file joint tax returns, or legal protection in case theirrelationship ends.
Civil marriage is important to same-sex couples because it is the legal pathway to protections and benefits that civil unions and domestic artnerships do not provide. Civil marriage establishes KINSHIP, and kinship includes access to healthcare, medicaldecision-making, parenting and immigration rights, access to inheritance and Social Security benefits, transfer of property, and other rights and protections. In fact, there are 1,138 federal legal rights and protections that are established with civil marriage in the United States, which is why same-sex couples advocate for marriage equality….and why we are not willing to settle for civil unions. Civil unions do not give us kinship and do not give us equality.
If you ask people who oppose marriage equality why they are against it, they can only give one answer: religion. How many hateful/hurtful things are going to be done in the name of religion before we “learn better” and “do things better?”
We are asking for marriage equality so that we can express our love and commitment in a way that is understood by the world, in a way that allows us to legally protect our relationships, and in a way that celebrates the strength and value of all loving and committed couples!
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By: smteaches on October 31, 2008
at 9:54 PM
I’m so glad you’ve got love for the gay rights!! Your gay readers are loyal!! We love you!!
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By: Jessica on October 31, 2008
at 9:26 PM
Good post again today! You make a great point when you compare the “Marriage should be between a man and woman only” and the old “Whites only” signs. Some people just need to exclude others or control their behavior or just find someone else to vent their hate on.
Bless you, Helen, and your friend. Go Obama!
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By: pittsburghgirl on October 31, 2008
at 9:09 PM
I was brought up as a republican and I am from VA. I recently moved to Ohio. I had my eyes open and now a full supporter of the Democratic Party.
There are many issues that I have paid attention to in this election. This election is important, because it will affect my children. I have taken my children to Obama rallies and to see the ethicnity speaks words to my kids. We are there to say we want change, we have had enough.
I have a brother and a brother-in-law that are gay. Big deal. They deserve the same rights as everyone else, I do support marriage equality, gay rights, WAKE up it is now 2008.
Healthcare….. the government has no place in a womans life or what she can do with her body.
There should also be medical insurance to cover all people. I met an eldery lady, who was denied medical care because she had no insurance. She went home and suffered a stroke. I am fortunate to have coverage through my employment.
I am a part of the middle class. I am not Joe the plumber.It angers me that men are voting for McCain, due to Palin(the milf). She DOES NOT represent me at all. This woman has NO serving, hello, he is in bootcamp. She has no clue on policy, no knowledge on foreign policy etc. She is nothing more than a “shark”. She went from mayor, governor, named VP of the RNC, and now experience. She has stated her son is in Iraq speaks of a run in 2012. Doesnt anyone else see she is power hungry???? She has many issues, she is not for me.
BTW- Joe the plumber is getting paid by the McCain campaign to continue the BS.
I am a 100% democratic, have supported my county, have already voted. I have already spoken for change.
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By: Michele on October 31, 2008
at 8:57 PM
I don’t live in California, but if I did, I would be voting NO on this issue. Who are we to decide if it’s right or wrong? The Bible even tells us not to judge others. The sanctity of marriage has already gone down the tubes. Between the high divorce rate, the abuse, the infidelity and sometimes even murder (remember the Petersons in Cali?), from where I sit, it looks as if the sanctity of marriage has already been destroyed….by straight people.
Right now, with no civil rights or marriage, gay’s are screwed. Figuratively. They buy a house in one’s name, the other loses it if that half of the couple passes away. Even if they’ve made all the payments. If one is injured and in ICU, the other can’t visit because they aren’t family. Families of the deceased can come in and take everything this couple worked hard for. I’m sorry…it’s just not right.
Live and let live.
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By: Katrina on October 31, 2008
at 8:45 PM
I just discovered this blog…another place I will visit often, especially during the next few days. It seems the Straight Talk Express has been parked here for quite awhile.
I did a brief search on Cafe Press but did not find the t-shirt. If you have that link, please post! Thanks! Thanks for your many insights.
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By: White Agate on October 31, 2008
at 7:51 PM
Drew- if you read the responses here, I just wanted you to know I plan to use your quote from now on, if that’s ok. I’ve never heard what I feel worded so beautifully before. Thank you for that, and I hope you don’t mind! Beautiful!
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By: Becca on October 31, 2008
at 7:44 PM
I live in California and have been doing my best to remain patient with the ignorance that is commonplace here. I am not gay but I have a gay uncle and I feel blessed that I was raised with an open mind and an open heart. I think the biggest argument against gay marriage is that it is “not from God”. Well, not everyone believes in the same god….and that shouldn’t matter anyway because there should be a separation of church and state. I’m so frustrated when it comes to this subject and I could go on, but it would bore the hell out of you.
Anywhoo…thank you again for your wonderful words of wisdom. I can’t wait for this election to be over! I look forward to your new posts, and please continue to write once we have a new president!
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By: Tara on October 31, 2008
at 7:18 PM
Helen, you are awesome!!! I don’t get much free time these days since I’m busy taking care of my 7 month old twins, but I look forward to reading your blog from now on! Thanks so much for sharing your humor and insight!
: ) : )
Taube
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By: Taube Vallabha on October 31, 2008
at 7:13 PM
Dear Helen,
Have you thought about becoming a professional blogger? 650,000 new hits in a few short days is worth a bucket load of money. Do you know that you are now more popular than many of the major online newspaper organizations? Many articles are lucky to have 5-10 comments. You yourself you have a legion of fan. You deserve some reward for feeding us with words and wisdom that we all can glean from, relate to and learn. I hope you take professional blogging seriously.
Most importantly Helen, whatever you decide to do after the election, please don’t stop writing for the sake of the next generation of youth in America.
Thank you so much!
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By: Douglas in MN on October 31, 2008
at 6:58 PM
Thanks for a great post on a contentious topic. You are right about marriage rights. We need to provide/preserve marriage rights for all of us. To paraphrase Barack: we are not gay Americans or straight Americans but all Americans.
Your blog has become a new daily habit. I love what you say, and I love that fearlessness you have when you say it.
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By: Sophronia on October 31, 2008
at 6:58 PM
BE CAREFUL this Halloween! The Mormon Church plans to hand out explicit literature to YOUR kids!
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By: Robert on October 31, 2008
at 6:39 PM
I’m wearing my t-shirt with pride.
You are a rock star, Helen. Thanks for letting me share your wonderful world.
Here’s to lifelong friends and telling it like it is.
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By: Maggie B. on October 31, 2008
at 6:22 PM
I so want this election over. I’ve voted already and if Obama doen’t win, I’m figuring I’ve gotta look for another country because I don’t think I can take four more years of this.
The only other thing that scares me about the election ending is, what are you going to write about? We’ll all have to give you subjects because you are sooooo good. I told my daughter that I want to be just like you when I grow up. So, please don’t stop blogging.
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By: savanvleck on October 31, 2008
at 6:17 PM
I was raised by card carrying racists and bigots. How the hell I got past that is anyone’s guess but I’m terribly glad I did. I remember the day my daughter told me she was lesbian. She stammered around until I said “I know. I’ve been waiting for you to figure it out”. She started laughing and told me she knew I would be OK with it but knowing what some of her friends had been through, it was still hard for her to do. For the life of me I can’t understand why people are so scared of those who are different from themselves, why parents would abandon their children upon finding out they are gay. What the hell is up with that? I could care less what people do in the bedroom. Isn’t two people loving each other enough? I have found that difference in the people I meet has been what has enriched my life the most. I wanted Hillary but Obama proved himself to me and I’ve already cast my vote for him. It’s the first time hope has entered into the picture in a long time. Dearest Helen, you have pulled people together for a single purpose. You are a symbol of what we can become if we try. Blessings to you always.
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at 6:10 PM
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By: Virginia Harris on October 31, 2008
at 6:05 PM
Helen, you are absolutely right. this kind of thing is utterly atrocious. Those are the signs that I would tear down the instant I saw them, regardless of consequence.
Drew, though I am not gay (at least, don’t think I am could be, who knows?), I agree with what you are saying precisely. I too often say I would rather go to hell than go to a heavento which not everyone is invited. If those whack jobs turn out to right, I’ll be glad to shar a place in hell with you, buddy.
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By: phoenixofdiscordia on October 31, 2008
at 6:00 PM
Hey Ladies…you might be interested in reading my friends’ brilliant blog, as she has referred to yours as well…
http://yomamaforobama.wordpress.com/
Keep up the great work!!!!
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By: amy lilley on October 31, 2008
at 5:57 PM
This is the first time I’ve read this blog and really found something to agree with.
Consenting adults should be able to marry who they want, and it should be called marriage. Civil unions are just another version of “separate but equal”.
I’m glad you’re sticking up for this issue. I really wish Obama would too.
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By: jenniferdelgado on October 31, 2008
at 5:52 PM
Just heard about you in the last couple of weeks. Today you were the ‘top’ subject with the ‘old girls’ at the gym! “It is what it is” and you say it like it is. I haven’t voted yet, but not to worry, I’ll do the right thing on Tuesday! My T-shirt is in the mail, and I shall wear it proudly – the old gals have to stick together and let the world know what we have to say! Thanks!
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By: another old gal on October 31, 2008
at 5:50 PM
Ciao Helen,
Thanks for putting this seven blogs in seven days together for us. It is really helping to keep me focused on the positive that is Obama and to put the rest into perspective. We all need to be positive up until the last minute so that we can produce a positive result for Obama and ultimately for us all.
Take it to the polls, everyone! GO OBAMA!!!
p.s. The city of Rome held a “Roma for Obama” convention yesterday, which was hosted by prominent members of the political community. How cool is that? It speaks volumes…
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By: Anonymous on October 31, 2008
at 5:36 PM
So glad to have ‘discovered’ you today. I always found my grandmother had a helluva lot more sense than my parents, so maybe age makes you smart. Or, at least I hope it does. Happy Halloween!
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By: Fairly Odd Mother on October 31, 2008
at 5:35 PM
Helen;
My mother came from rural Arkansas. We lived in a small town there when I was 10. I never saw a black person in downtown, or in any of the ‘white’ areas. I remember being startled whenever I saw a black person. Kids in our school said you could pick up the color if they were allowed in the swimming pool.
It was crazy stuff but there was no one to say these were not true.
The same is true with gay people, Muslims, Arabs, and any number of people who are in the minority – and especially when they live in fear of the majority.
And, as long as each of these minorities can be kept in fear of, or competition with, other minorities….. well, you know: Divide and conquer. There will be ruthless people who will prey on our fears.
It took lots of effort but my parents made it a point to know lots of different people. It’s like having the best meal – lots of different flavors, discoveries, and loving connection.
Obama knows what that’s like. His story is like a beacon cutting through the fog of fear. Many undecideds have not lived in a world where people know each other across the invisible divides. It will take them time to overcome their fears.
After all, we’re just a family, the human family, and like all families we have our good times and our tough times.
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By: Dan Pecan on October 31, 2008
at 5:02 PM
Thank you ladies,
You just made my day. I will have to tell my 97 year old mother about you girls; maybe she will consent to getting a ‘confuser’ and just lurking on the blogs! She still has all her marbles and she will just love hearing about you.
She has already voted early for Obama.
Of course having a 97 year old mother, I am not exactly a spring chicken myself.
Keep up the great work and we in blog land will be in touch.
Thanks again and keep tellin’ it like it is!
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By: portland oregon native on October 31, 2008
at 4:57 PM
I just discovered this site and I have to say you rock! I’ve told all my friends and bought a magnet for my aunt who is soon turning 80 and will love it. I hope you keep going after the election-I promise we’ll keep reading.
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By: pinkhedgehog on October 31, 2008
at 4:40 PM
Keep the love going. I had a great Grandma, and she was great, but you are the best. She had a son that was gay and took care of her until she died at the age of 104. She never knew he was gay and would not have understood it.
I too will check back to, some how life had gotten better knowing you.
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By: toot on October 31, 2008
at 4:32 PM
My partner and I have been together for just over 5 years. I’ve been told that I’m going to hell for my “sin”.
My response is always the same:
“I’d rather go to hell for loving than go to heaven for hating.”
Usually shuts them up.
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By: Drew on October 31, 2008
at 4:29 PM
Prop 8: why is it that a group of people who profess to abide by the Christian concept of love for your fellow man are so easily threatened by that very concept? I guess what they really mean to say is, “love your fellow man, but only if you are a woman!” I am disgusted and sickened by those who seek to use religious beliefs as the basis for legalized discrimination in civil matters. The Golden Rule is often offered as a foundational Christian concept – that we are to treat others as we would like to be treated. SO WHAT HAPPENED?? A vocal group of people have decided that the Golden Rule only applies to “others” who are exactly like them. Ridiculous.
So to those who are advocating for the passage of Prop 8 – which tosses a foundational christian concept out on its ass – keep your religion in your church and your civil rights in your government! Many of us have marriages which are not recognized by our church (yes, I am talking about a marriage between a man and a woman that is not recognized by a church). Happens all the time! I was married in the backyard by a former catholic priest who left the priesthood 42 years ago to marry a woman with whom he fell in love. I have a legal marriage which confers civil rights upon both me and my husband, but guess what! The catholic church does not recognize our marriage because we were not married in accordance with the church etc. I am fine with that, and it doesn’t make me any less legally married than our neighbors who had a full mass at their wedding in the church.
My point is this: A marriage is a legal committment between two consenting adults. You get the license and comply with the legal requirements. Done. Now, if those two people wish to hold some sort of particular ceremony in order to have their marriage recognized in accordance with their beliefs, then that is between them, their clergy, and their church. It has nothing to do with the government, nor should it.
I agree with Helen that this is a divisive, nasty effort to legalize discrimination – why do we want to go backwards in our history of social development by passing something so blatently wrong???
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By: not a hockey mom on October 31, 2008
at 4:22 PM
Another great one!
Thanks so much! You make my day. I can’t wait to see what tomorrow brings.
Only a couple of days till everything changes. I have chewed off all my fingernails!
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By: troutay on October 31, 2008
at 4:16 PM
Rock on ladies! I hope you keep this up! I especially liked your advice to the woman whose grandparents tore up their ballots.
You make me both laugh out lound and bring a tear to my eye. I wish my grandmothers were still alive so they could weigh in on this election.
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By: Amy on October 31, 2008
at 4:00 PM
Excellent post, as always. Thanks for standing up for what is right.
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By: Mauigirl on October 31, 2008
at 3:58 PM
The undecideds are just little kids looking for attention.
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By: bajsa on October 31, 2008
at 3:54 PM
Dear Helen,
Change is coming next week, time to start thinking about the future………
I hope you will keep this block up and running in the time AFTER the election, keep an eye on Obama and his promises, see what he keeps, what he forgets and where he just has no choice but give in to real live in washington….. sounds pesimistic….? Well, after all he also is only a politician, even if I would LOVE to be proofen wrong! (Go for it Obama, please!)
But the point I wanted to make is that I think you make an EXCELLENT job in educating and moving people that would maybe not listen to your arguments if they would be representated by a kiddy blogger instaed of an respectable elderly person ( 😉 ) You reach so many people, I hope they keep up the habit of looking in at you and learn some wisdom of life!
So, Good luck Maude (uuupppsss, did it again)
Werner
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By: Werner Oderwer on October 31, 2008
at 3:48 PM
NO ON PROP 8! Thanks Hellen! Now I REALLY love you!
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By: Joe B. on October 31, 2008
at 3:40 PM
Helen,
I am a Catholic who was taught otherwise regarding marriage. But after reading this post, I promise to keep an open mind and open heart about this issue. We have the same proposition here in Arizona… that marriage must be between a man and a woman only. Have faith…have patience… It’s hard to change a deep rooted belief and tradition if you will. But it will come. I know a lot of good gay couple and I respect them. More power to them and to you.
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By: Phoenix on October 31, 2008
at 3:28 PM
Thanks, Helen. You really know how to put it. There’s a lot of love out there for you.
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By: Adam on October 31, 2008
at 3:21 PM
I love your blog. There is nothing more wonderful than a woman who know what she thinks and is not afraid to voice it.
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By: Kay on October 31, 2008
at 3:19 PM
Just in her defense for a hot second, I’ve talked to Sherri Shephard, and she’s a very sweet and funny girl. I’ve traded emails with her and talked about our similar religious and life beliefs. Being a big Obama supporter, I can see her eventually voting for Obama. She’s a bit smarter in her statements on the show than when she first started, but she’s young, and she’s still learning. I think this election has been a huge learning process for everyone in the US. Especially for those Arab-hating grandma’s that attend the Straight Talk Express rallies, but we know who they’re voting for don’t we? Sherri will probably vote for Obama. There’s no way she’d put Governor Moose Munch anywhere near the White House. So give it a LITTLE slack, she’s learning. We all are; even this 40 year old white boy in NY, but from Oklahoma. Love you girls!
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By: Ernest L Sewell, IV on October 31, 2008
at 3:19 PM
This SoCalifornian is voting no on 8. So is everybody I know.
The bottom line to me and many like me is that it’s simply none of our gd business who our neighbors choose to marry.
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By: caterpol on October 31, 2008
at 3:04 PM
I hear ya Helen. I live in Virginia. Now like most states many of us vote at a school. In 2006, Virginia had a ballot to outlaw gay marriage here. Oddly enough we already had not 1, but 2 laws doing that already. I was a little confused by it, but whatever. I took my daughter to school the next day and there were signs all over the place! Unfortunately I have a pretty bright child and at 6 she could read them. I was a single mom at the time and she wanted to know if they meant I was bad because I wasn’t married. So I had to explain they were trying to convince people that gays shouldn’t be able to marry.
So I got out of my car and started ripping signs out of the ground and throwing them in my trunk!
I’m sure you can guess her next question. What is gay? UGH. So I explained. Some women like other women. Some men like other men. They kiss and do things like gram and gramp. Whew. She looked over at me and said, “What’s the big deal? Why can’t people just get along.”
I have to say I’ve rarely been prouder! Perhaps I should ask Zo to give Sarah a call and explain it to her!
Later that week my mom and I were shopping and she put bags in the trunk of my car. Apparently Zo had aready told her what I’d done, because she just laughed and asked how long it took me to pull all those signs out of the ground! There must have been 20 of them in my trunk.
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By: smartandfemale on October 31, 2008
at 3:00 PM
Great blog, you two. Are you going on a trip somewhere? (photo?)
Do you already visit Mudflats?
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
Greetings from Alaska!
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By: Northern Exposure on October 31, 2008
at 2:59 PM
What I don’t get is this: why isn’t the Christian right in a tizzy over the fact that Ms. Palin’s pregnant teenaged daughter and the baby’s father aren’t married yet. She is apparently going through the pregnancy without the companionship of the father, and his mother says that maybe next summer they will get married.
I don’t care who marries whom, or if people choose not to get married, even if they have children.
But for the life of me, I can’t figure out what is going on with this family and their supporters. If the Palin family is supposed to be some sort of role-model for American families, why aren’t they living what they preach?
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By: knittergran on October 31, 2008
at 2:58 PM
Thank you so much for speaking out against Prop 8 in CA. Those of us here that got married need to hear that people in other places like Texas support us. It is a little overwhelming to feel like everyone is against you wanting to make a commitment to someone you have loved for years.
Keep up the good work.
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By: Cathy on October 31, 2008
at 2:52 PM
I love my t-shirts, my magnet, and my tote bag. I get lots of questions about them which lets me tell more and more people about my favorite blog. Thanks for keeping me sane, Helen, and thanks for the new stuff gentlemen.
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By: Bailey on October 31, 2008
at 2:50 PM
To Joseph Klipple:
Actually, you CANNOT be turned away by ANYTHING you wear at the polling booths. It is your right to wear anything and if there is law in your state that prevents anything “political” from being in the polling arena, they are by law supposed to provide you with tape (for example) to cover what is illegal to have in the polling area. You cannot be arrested OR prevented from voting due to inappropriate attire.
Thought I would clarify that.
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By: Karen P on October 31, 2008
at 2:45 PM
Sherry’s good friend Sheryl Underwood must be confusing her, Underwood is a black republican comedian, she was on the show just last week and though I did not watch it I know she is pushing McCain.
Sherry does come off as one easily lead or mislead so I don’t doubt her being confused these in my opinion make up the remaining “undecided”.
When Obama went on the show Sherry said that she wasn’t sure before, but meeting him convinced her to the point she was now willing to campaign for him, so somebody has gotten in her ear and has her mixed up again.
It may be sitting too close to the Moron, maybe something has rubbed off!
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By: Bernice on October 31, 2008
at 2:37 PM
I’ve been married for 42 yrs. to the same man (and if I’d have loved a woman, I’d have done the same) and I have gay friends. Over the years I have watched in horror at the terrible discrimination my friends have suffered at the hands of the religious ‘not-so-right’. I’ve cried, yelled, walked, donated, and posted always asking the same question…what in God’s (whomever you believe her/him/it to be) name has happened to us as human beings that we have become so vile (evil) to one another? How can one person watch another suffer without reaching out a hand in comfort? How can we call each other these horrible epithets and still call ourselves human? How?
I know one thing, People…Reason has found a voice HERE…thank God (whomever…). We mean it. Really.
P.S. You make me smile, laugh, and cry for joy at your sanity. That is thanks from a grateful soul!
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By: Carolann on October 31, 2008
at 2:22 PM
Helen,
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I can always count on coming to your blog and getting a laugh and a smile. As a born Texan but released into the wilds of the west, it’s so encouraging to see that there’s more and more blue in that red state!!! You are an inspiration!!!
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By: Suz on October 31, 2008
at 2:13 PM
I remember the whites only sign posted over the bathrooms and water fountain in our small town’s courthouse. I am Thrilled that a black man is about to be elected President. I am a married white female. If I were gay and had a partner I wanted to marry, then I should have that right. No one person should be able to add language to our constitutions to take away rights. My governor, Sarah Palin, will try to do that here, I am sure. Now that we have seen her true colors, I do believe she will no longer hide behind the “I can get along with Democrats” facade she’s utilized in the past. We Alaskans will no longer trust her. We will be watching her like a hawk from now on. Margaret and Helen…keep up the blogging. You have terrrific and sharply entertaining insight. Those grandsons of yours will be millionaires before you know it.
Happy Halloween!
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By: Catherine Howard on October 31, 2008
at 2:04 PM
I’ve come to you late (be 83 in a week) and enjoy your writing as much as your viewpoint.
Your mention of the T-shirts prompts me to pass along a cautionary e-mail I just received from CafePress.com (where I have Klip’s Image Shop):
“Quick public service note from CafePress letting you know that come Election Day, in some states, its prohibited to wear political gear at the voting booth (seriously). In fact, donning political attire may result in your being turned away — and in some cases, your arrest.
By definition, displaying political messages on T-Shirts, buttons and such is considered Electioneering (defined as, To work actively for a political party). To prevent voter intimidation, electioneering is not allowed near some states’ voting booths. Be sure to look into restrictions in your neck of the woods.”
Enjoy Hallowe’en. This year I’m wearing my own face.
Klipple
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By: Joseph Klipple on October 31, 2008
at 1:59 PM
You are the highpoint of my day .. every day … sad for me? .. NO! it is not .. I like plus size smart mouth ladies who tell it like it is! So thanks!
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By: Daryl on October 31, 2008
at 1:55 PM
Helen, I just got my Tshirts and they are wonderful. Those kids are doing a great job. Hanes brand, thanks for using a NC brand. You guys rock!
It seemed like a reward as we had just returned from voting for Barack. What a great day. We had to wait in line one and a half hours. Not bad for a history making moment.
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By: Susan on October 31, 2008
at 1:53 PM
Sing it, Ms. Helen!!!!
xoxo
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By: lebecka on October 31, 2008
at 1:50 PM
I love you. I am in need of a new grandma as mine passed from breast cancer in 87. Can you please adopt me?
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By: Shay on October 31, 2008
at 1:48 PM
Thanks, and thanks again–clarity, insight, smarts. We could use a whole lot more of that!
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By: seacat on October 31, 2008
at 1:35 PM
Thank you for such a wonderful blog.
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By: emily on October 31, 2008
at 1:27 PM
First time reader, first time commenter. I just wanted to add kudos to the growing stack. Way to go and keep up the great work.
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By: Brandon on October 31, 2008
at 1:26 PM
“that other one”
Believes in the story of Genesis literally and want that to be taught in public schools instead of the theory of evolution.
She actually said, “the world is only 6,000 years old”
on national television, while sitting next to the once great Barbara Walters.
It pains me to witness it, so, I stopped watching. I hope others stop watching it too.
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By: grace on October 31, 2008
at 1:24 PM
I just discovered your blog and what a delight!
I couldn’t agree with you more and I can only aspire to be as sharp-witted and funny as you by the time I’m 83! Keep on telling it like it is Helen…..I love it!
J
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By: Janel Le Belle on October 31, 2008
at 1:17 PM
You are such a breath of fresh air!
I love your blog! Keep it up!
GOBAMA
No on 8!!
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By: Barbara on October 31, 2008
at 1:14 PM
I just discovered your blog yesterday. You girls crack me up! I wish I had a gramma half as cool as you two. Keep up the good work! Will tune in tomorrow to see if your streak is still on fire.
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By: SophieM on October 31, 2008
at 1:12 PM
This makes me think of a New Yorker article by David Sedaris on undecided voters:
“I look at these people and can’t quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder. Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention?
To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”
To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.”
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By: Gary on October 31, 2008
at 1:10 PM
I found you through Feministing. You are now a regular read on my list.
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By: Christina on October 31, 2008
at 1:09 PM
You guys are a RIOT.
I recently traveled from Nebraska to Palm Springs, California with my partner of 19 years just so that once in our lifetimes we could say that we were “married”. It was a tiny service with no mention of God or religion and no christians were harmed during the service. We plan on spending the rest of our lives together whether we are married or not.
I sometimes wonder if those who object so strongly might really be worried about gay folks co-opting the use of the word “married”. If thats the case, I say we just draw the line at the courthouse: from now on ALL unions between consenting adults be called “Civil Unions”. If you want to be “Married” go find a church that will have you and do it there.
As an object of scorn and ridicule at many of those places, you might not see me in the pews wishing you well, but I’ll be at the reception because I love a good party.
Thank you for being there. Will you be my crazy aunties who always make holidays so much more entertaining?
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By: Barking Monkey on October 31, 2008
at 12:58 PM
You go girl! Why it should make a difference to anyone who marries whom escapes me. Show me what is lost by any right-wing, heterosexual couple when a gay couple marries. I haven’t found anything yet.
I love the blog and I’m sharing it with everyone I can. Keep it up, ladies.
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By: GRP on October 31, 2008
at 12:52 PM
first off i have to say that “i love you helen & margaret!” second i agree with you on everything i’ve read here from you two! and third, i am sick of the christian right condemming me for my choice of who to love and spend the rest of my life with. the god i know tells me to love everyone and every thing. she does not discriminate. even jesus christ in his teachings only preached love! i suggest the christian right take a look back at what christ is really all about and stop making up thier own rules and start following christ for real!
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By: jacy on October 31, 2008
at 12:46 PM
[…] Helen for Mayor/Governor/President. I love her: So several of you have emailed me about something happening in California. Now, a lot of crazy stuff goes on in that state and so I may be getting this a little mixed up. Evidently they are wanting to pass a constitutional amendment to make only marriages between a man and a woman valid in California. Talk about an ignorant pot calling a gay kettle black. Somebody really should check the latest divorce rates because clearly many marriages everywhere are not valid. […]
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By: Loganotron » Blog Archive » Helen Philpot on Prop 8 on October 31, 2008
at 12:41 PM
As a 27-year old gay guy, it’s very easy for me sometimes to be cynical of the world and feel that the large group of religious, old, right-wing nuts that make up the majority of this country are doing their damnedest to make this an incredibly hostile place – but then I read your posts and realize what a fool I am, and that I’ve just bought into the divisiveness that driving America apart. I realize that the majority of people probably don’t care about whom others choose to marry, have sex with, or anything else like that, it’s just a very, very vocal minority that screams the loudest and tries to get things done their way. I hope that when I’m even half your age I am able to have anywhere near the clarity of thought that you seem to possess.
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By: Mylan on October 31, 2008
at 12:40 PM
Helen,
Amen! AMEN! Thank the powers that be that there is wonderful women like you to teach these pups a thing or two.
For this I have bought several things from your CafePress site to support you and your grandchildren.
Thanks and keep it up. I mean it!
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By: Chris on October 31, 2008
at 12:30 PM
I will admit that my grandmother does not always speak like that, but sometimes she gets crochety and does.
So sure some 70, 80, and 90 years are tame, but others wowie. HAHAHAHA
Good job.
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By: LAL on October 31, 2008
at 12:28 PM
But certainly you’re not suggesting that someday we would have an openly gay person running for President.
I remember Kennedy’s run. I was attending a Catholic grade school. He broke what was considered a barrier at the time and then went on to break down new barriers in the short time he had left. (Thanks to LBJ for carrying the torch!) I also remember Dr. King and the march. But, I never thought I would live to see a black man so capture the will and concience of this whole nation and rise to the top office.
This is truely a Great Nation and we need to bring those with closed minds into the light.
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By: chelseaniner on October 31, 2008
at 12:26 PM
You can go to Helen’s Facebook fan page here
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By: Tempy on October 31, 2008
at 12:16 PM
Girl I am already hooked into you!! I have sent your website to everyone in my address book no matter what there view is . Keep it up I live in San Marcos, moved to Texas 6 years ago form Ca. did not want to.. THEY ARE RED NECK OUT THERE .My son and his partner lived inAustin and I just did not think a SF girl could live here and be happy. When 911 hit and jobs went south had no car no phone no $$$ so the guys said move here aggggg that was 6 years ago I have a great job and just moved to SM in a senior complex ( just turned 66) so tell Marge I am putting my self in as your next new best friend should she wish to do something else.
Unless of course you have room in your life for more than one. I have not room in my life for these petty predjuices about color , sex etc.. just live and let .. be wellgirl
Vie
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By: Vie on October 31, 2008
at 12:10 PM
You know what’s really ironic? Gay people can ALREADY get married in churches! Yep, pretty much any Unitarian, Unity, UCC, etc church will perform a sacred ceremony. It’s the state that will not then recognize it as a legal contract. Funny (strange, not haha), huh? Since the anti love position is always some nonsense about God hating fags or something.
How about this: How about we all have civil unions and then people who want God to consecrate it can go to a church for that.
It’s just common sense. Or more accurately, UNcommon sense, because there sure seem to be alot of senseless idiots in this world.
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By: Archangel Gabrielle on October 31, 2008
at 12:10 PM
Thanks Helen–I just wanted to drop in and let you know how thoroughly I have been enjoying reading your writing over the past few weeks. I really appreciate what you are doing here.
I work on a national study of Alzheimer’s and dementia in America myself, and spend my days talking to Americans 70 and up. I got a particularly good chuckle from the commentors who insist you must not be who you say you are or 82 years old because they assume anyone in that age range would never use such language or would be more “respectful”.
HA! Spend your days talking to the 70, 80, 90 year old and up crowd sometimes folks…and you will find many are angry about the current state of things and surprise surprise they may even use strong language to make their point.
I have to assume that the person who made this comment does not actual know many if any actual 82 year olds.
Keep it up, Helen. Only 5 days to go.
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By: Roberta on October 31, 2008
at 12:09 PM
How about this — We keep Barbara Walters & Whoopi Goldberg but kick the others off and put the two of you and my sassy, 84 year old Aunt Alice on The View? I’d secretly watch every day at my desk while I’m supposed to be working. That would make for such great television!
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By: DC Fem on October 31, 2008
at 12:09 PM
I am new here but am loving your view; you make me laugh, strike a chord, and are voting for a great guy. what more needs said?
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By: Kori on October 31, 2008
at 12:07 PM
I’m sorry for your situation, Cindi. I believe absolutely that gays should be allowed to marry. I knew the importance of legitimizing medical decisions on behalf of the other partner, but I didn’t really think about so many other benefits, like social security survivor benefits. We Americans need to get over old, fundamentalist restrictions about marriage and allow ALL our citizens to receive the same marriage benefits, regardless of sexual orientation.
For the record, I’ve been in my first-and-only (so far!) heterosexual marriage for 38 years now…I’m white, female, and pissed off that any “legal” family member, possibly estranged for years from their gay relative, can arbitrarily kick out of a hospital room the loving partner of the sick patient. The legal family member can make life-and-death decisions that exclude the loving partner who holds no legal standing with the patient. That is just not right, and it needs to stop. Here’s a list of benefits to marriage that I found:
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Federal Rights, Protections and Benefits of Marriage
United States
By Ramon Johnson, About.com
http://gaylife.about.com/od/samesexmarriage/a/benefits.htm?p=1
According to a report given to the Office of the General Counsel of the U.S. General Accounting Office, here are a few of the 1,138 benefits the United States government provides to legally married couples:
Access to Military Stores
Assumption of Spouse’s Pension
Bereavement Leave
Immigration
Insurance Breaks
Medical Decisions on Behalf of Partner
Sick Leave to Care for Partner
Social Security Survivor Benefits
Sick Leave to Care for Partner
Tax Breaks
Veteran’s Discounts
Visitation of Partner in Hospital or Prison
Here are a few of the state level benefits within the United States:
Assumption of Spouse’s Pension
Automatic Inheritance
Automatic Housing Lease Transfer
Bereavement Leave
Burial Determination
Child Custody
Crime Victim’s Recovery Benefits
Divorce Protections
Domestic Violence Protection
Exemption from Property Tax on Partner’s Death
Immunity from Testifying Against Spouse
Insurance Breaks
Joint Adoption and Foster Care
Joint Bankruptcy
Joint Parenting (Insurance Coverage, School Records)
Medical Decisions on Behalf of Partner
Certain Property Rights
Reduced Rate Memberships
Sick Leave to Care for Partner
Visitation of Partner’s Children
Visitation of Partner in Hospital or Prison
Wrongful Death (Loss of Consort) Benefits
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By: I can see traffic; Palin says that qualifies me as a transportation expert on October 31, 2008
at 11:53 AM
I have always been fond of old ladies who speak their minds, so I’m delighted to have found Helen and Margaret. I only hope that when my best friend and I can look back on 60 years of friendship we will have half the smarts and insight you two have.
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By: Jessica on October 31, 2008
at 11:52 AM
Couldn’t agree more! Your posts are always great reading!
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By: Sylvia Kirkwood on October 31, 2008
at 11:51 AM
Again, right on target. Loved the “ignorant pot calling the gay kettle black” line. Genius. And, even at 50 years old, I remember those “whites only” signs and, as a child, not understanding the implications. Now as a lesbian, I do understand the implications. I live them every day. My partner is an Iraq War vet with PTSD and we walked that journey together. Unlike straight couples, we had no support. But here we are, years later and still just as strong and just as committed to one another. To tell either of us that we cannot formalize our union, and use the word “marriage” (dear god don’t offend the religious right), is the ultimate in offensive.
Keep talking. We’re listening. And you make a difference. I mean it.
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By: Cindi on October 31, 2008
at 11:44 AM
Helen,
This is my stand on gay marriage (this is tongue- in-cheek so everyone chill):
Why is it that only straight people feel that they are the only ones who have the right to be in a miserable marriage? Spread the misery around!!! Give gay’s the right to join in miserable matrimony! Just think how much it can help our economy!?! Hey, them people are extravagant, can you imagine the excess at the ceremonies?—all that costs money and boosts the peripheral wedding businesses! And then when they subsequently get divorced, again, let them spend money on divorce lawyers! So, in one fell swoop, you help the gay community, you help the small businesses, you help a portion of the law community and you further our evolution as a species by expanding civil liberties!!!
As far as the over-fed gal on The View—-maybe the show should be called The Partial View.
Your friend,
Karen
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By: Karen P on October 31, 2008
at 11:39 AM
Helen, let me add myself to the list of those who adore you. I’m 63 — do you like younger men?
Above someone commented that interracial marriage was illegal sixty years ago; actually, it was just forty-one years ago that the Supreme Court struck down those laws in Loving v. Virginia. To people born since then it is inconceivable that interracial marriage was once illegal; let’s hope that in another forty years people will be just as amazed that same-sex marriages were once illegal.
A major part of the problem is that the state got mixed up with the churches by codifying the sacrament of marriage. There are civil aspects of marriage and there are religious ones; they should be separate. Those churches which do not want to perform same-sex marriages should not have to, just like traditional catholic churches will not marry divorced persons. Those who do not want a church ceremony don’t have to participate in one, they can have a secular, civil ceremony.
Keep the civil contract and the religious commitment separate; no good comes of mixing church and state.
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By: Pieter B on October 31, 2008
at 11:36 AM
once again spot on. Go Helen! I’m proud that someone else (I’m from San Antonio) from Texas actually knows what the hell is what!
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By: ladysa02 on October 31, 2008
at 11:28 AM
Again, another fantastic post that I couldn’t agree with more. As hard as it must be to keep up with all your fans, I’ve really looked forward to this week and knowing that you’re going to be updating daily. Thank you so much for that!
Keep telling it like it is Helen! Just a few more days until our votes can back up our voices!! 😀
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By: Becca on October 31, 2008
at 11:21 AM
Dont Call the Extremists–The Christian Right. It has the sound of Correctitude. Blah!
Call them:
Christian Supremacists. Because these people make it clear everyday, that its their way, or the High Way. Live their Lifestyle Choice or not get First Amendment Freedoms, Equal Protection, Privacy, or the privilge of being called a First Class Citizen. So Name them for what they are. Which is basically Half a Chromosome Away from being White Supremacists {which many are that as well}.
And if you must refer to them with a “R” word, Christian Reich is always good too. Since they demand Goose Stepping Conformity to their Exegetical Perversions, it seems fitting as well.
Love your blog.
There are many Good Christian Folk out there, who aren’t gay or feminist, or liberal, and yet, these wonderful souls I have contact with, lead by example and dont presume to insinuate their ways over mine. They Dont need legislation to validate their faith, nor do they need my emulation to help them feel secure in society as Christians.
And many speak up for Social Justice and Freedom of Conscience. We need more of them to stand up more than ever. Be the Light of Reason in a Dark Sea of Ignorance!
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By: Seeing Eye Chick on October 31, 2008
at 11:20 AM
Over 100k hits in one day — you’ll make MY goal of 1 M hits by election day, if this keeps up!
Rock on HELEN!!
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By: bigsurkate on October 31, 2008
at 11:18 AM
Sherry Shepard is her name and she makes Sarah Palin look like a genius. She stated on one show that someone had to prove to her that the world is round. That was the last time I watched The View. I’m not sure that trumps Sarah’s belief that dinosaurs and man walked the earth at the same time but it is close.
Now about gay marriage. Imagine that Harold has been hospitalized and you are not allowed to nag him in his death bed. Though you have been living together for decades and even raised a family together you were never legally married so the hospital would not consider you family and you wouldn’t be allowed into his room. This happened to a couple friends of mine who had been living together for almost 10 years. One of them was involved in a car crash and was in intensive care for a couple days. The other one wasn’t allowed to visit him before he died because only immediate family was allowed in. Then since he hadn’t made out a will the deceased blood family made a big stink about the inheritance even though they had had almost no contact with him since he announced he was gay. So even though marriage may not be as wonderful as you imagine it is could be, there are some legal benefits that all couples that commit to a relationship should be granted automatically. I hope that helps you understand why they should be allowed to be legally married.
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By: Phil on October 31, 2008
at 11:17 AM
Helen, I get such a kick out of your blog. Forget “When I am an old woman, I shall wear purple.” When I am an old woman, I shall have a blog that tells it like it is!
Keep ’em coming! 🙂
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By: Tena Nelson on October 31, 2008
at 11:15 AM
wow i wish i discovered you before today..you have inspired me even more! And I have voted alreasy…no indecision here. The Universe put Barack here for a reason…and if you are interested in this barack/muslim/antichrist thing please read my blog title Barack the Anitchrist?
http://walkingwithinthespiral.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-antichrist.html
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By: dina on October 31, 2008
at 11:14 AM
Here for the first time from Dawn Ponders and I’m in deep love. I ran errands for a few hours yesterday yelling at Sherry Shepard the whole time. Undecided my apple shaped ass!
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By: nutmeg on October 31, 2008
at 11:14 AM
xoxo
Really!
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By: Pat on October 31, 2008
at 11:13 AM
You are incredible! This post is funny, insightful, and to the point. Way to go!
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By: Kristin on October 31, 2008
at 11:12 AM
I agree with pretty much everything this blog says, both the things Helen says and most of the comments. And I must be a glutton for punishment because I watch the view everyday and yell at EH – and then rant to my husband later on about her asinine comments. 🙂 She’s a year or two older than me, and I don’t know how anyone my age can be so staunchly a republican in these times.
I cannot wait to vote for Obama on Tuesday – I am thrilled Election Day is finally so close, and yet it still seems too far away, especially every time I see McCain ads-GRRR.
However, my one comment, because it’s something I see a lot when the issue of gay marriage arises, is that saying things like, well marriage isn’t that great in the first place, so let the gays have it too, that seems wrong to me. Because I am married, I love being married, and I think marriage is a wonderful thing when done the right way. And I believe that gay people should be allowed to be married to each other for that reason. I just feel the other comment makes it sound like we all wouldn’t be for gay marriage if marriage was the most amazing, wonderful thing out there.
Disparaging marriage and then saying because it’s so bad who cares if gay men and women enter into it, is sort of a backhanded remark. Kinda like when that crazy lady called Obama an A-RAB and McCain said (not an exact quote) “no, ma’am, he’s an upstanding family man” as if an Arab man could not be an upstanding family man.
I am for gay marriage, and not because of the divorce statistics of heterosexuals. If there were no divorce, I’d still be for gay marriage. If every marriage ever in existence was filled with pure bliss (HA), I’d still be for gay marriage. And even though so many marriages end in divorce and it certainly isn’t always the best thing for all people who enter into it, I’m still for gay marriage. There is no reason gay people shouldn’t have every right to experience the highs and lows of this union like all the rest of us-and the legal rights that come with it.
Gay marriage should absolutely be legal on the state level, I don’t even comprehend why that’s a question. I guess I can understand why some religions, and sects of religion, might not allow it, if it’s not a part of their beliefs, but states have no reason not to allow it. I won’t even get started on religion, what I see as the absolute corruption of the message of Jesus. To say a quick thing though, from what I understand, he was about NOT judging others.
I’m not a religious person, when I got married it was in front of a judge, not a priest, preacher, reverend, etc…etc…and just to repeat my point:) I see no reason why 2 woman or 2 men who want to join together for life can’t do it the same way I did.
My friend “married” her wife (I live in PA so it’s not a legal union here) and it’s been ridiculous to see the paperwork she’s had to do just to change her name. They had their ceremony over a year ago and still haven’t made the name change official because of the red tape. Changing my name was free and easy. They need a lawyer to draw up papers to give them the same rights that I immediately got when I married my husband. I think it’s a sad and ridiculous state of affairs.
And I’ve had the same thought many times, it’s exactly like the “whites only” signs (though I am only 30 so didn’t so those in person.) You put an amendment against gay marriage in the constitution, and that’s like giving people a right/validation to their prejudices. There’s enough prejudice in the world as it is, certainly in this country without banning things to groups in the constitution.
We still have a lot to overcome in America, we are, in the history of the world, still a relatively young country and we have a lot of growing up to do. I hope WHEN Obama wins (HE MUST!!) we are able to take a huge step in getting over some of these issues. But a constitutional amendment against a group of people, in this day and age (not that it would ever be good) is disgusting.
I truly feel that if McCain wins it will be a sad day, because the close minded Americans will have won. That’s not the way to step into the future, especially the future of AMERICA.
I LOVE my country, I am thrilled to be an American, but that doesn’t mean I can’t question it and hope that it can improve, certainly in some areas, it needs to improve to move forward.
All this said, I do love this blog, I’ve been here every day for a couple of weeks and it is a source of sanity for me in what so often seems like an insane world (like driving down the street and seeing a “Sarah Palin” sign – not a McCain/Palin sign, but just Palin – WTF???)
OBAMA ’08!!!!!!!!!!!
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By: Erin in PA on October 31, 2008
at 11:05 AM
Helen, you are certaingly biting in your comments, you pull no punches. But I find thought-provoking. Your blog is refreshing, keep it up.
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By: novice101 on October 31, 2008
at 11:03 AM
Hi Helen,
My partner, now spouse and I have been together for 26 years under the force of nothing else but the love we have for each other. Last month we went to West Hollywood and got married, our witness was a friend who has been married for almost 50 years to her husband. It was such a special day. The ceremony was in a park not far from City Hall, the sun was shining and even the people in the park wished us well. Whatever happens we’ll still love each other and be together but darn it, we had our special day.
You’re the best Helen, God bless you.
Shirley
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By: Shirley on October 31, 2008
at 10:57 AM
California’s Prop 8 is a civil rights issue. Marriage affords people over 1,000 rights that a Civil Union or Domestic Partnership does not.
http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/wedding/f/MarriageBenefit.htm
Creating a Domestic Partnership requires consulting an attorney and is in many ways similiar to a Pre-Nuptual Agreement, but it still cannot afford a couple many many rights that marriage can.
It is about equality, yet many religious groups are clouding the issue making by it about bringing the idea of gay marriage to schools. Certain groups have created commercials that would have one believe that we are “indoctrinating” our school children into the gay lifestyle. That is not what Prop 8 is about. http://www.noonprop8.com/about
http://lolasdiner.blogspot.com/
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By: Lola on October 31, 2008
at 10:57 AM
Just discovered your site and love it!! As to Sherry Jackson….I think she was just saying that to make Lizzie feel better. She’s been arguing for Obama for weeks now. As to Elizabeth…the sooner she goes to work for her mentor Sean Hannity the happier I’ll be.
Happy Halloween!!!
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By: Margie on October 31, 2008
at 10:53 AM
Alright Dayna.
I knew you would see it.
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By: Dean on October 31, 2008
at 10:51 AM
Your metaphors leave me speechless. Comparing the “no gay marriage” sign to the “whites only” sign is nothing short of genius for the gut-check perspective it provides.
Wow.
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By: earth2lisa on October 31, 2008
at 10:50 AM
People do not realize that gay marriage is more than just saying I Do at the alter. I once had a gay couple living next door. They were great neighbors and had been together for many years. One of them got sick and while in the hosptial his partner had no say in his treatment. How would straight couples like it your partner was sick and the only people who had a say in their treatment was either a parent or someother blood relative (who they may not have seen or unfortunaltey spoken to years) had the right to talk to the doctors and make those decisions???? There are other legal aspects and rights that married couples have that gay couples are excluded from. Your right Helen – we might as well put signs out that say “straights only”.
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By: reader on October 31, 2008
at 10:50 AM
Thanks for making my day! Your blog is fun to read, and thought-provoking, too. It helps that I agree with everything I’ve read so far.
Keep up the great work! 🙂
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By: Roxi on October 31, 2008
at 10:46 AM
Personally, I don’t understand why the government is in the marriage business anyway… Why not make marriage a religious and personal choice and just institute civil unions for those that want those kind of legal rights. That makes is fair for everyone without having to have some sort of value or moral judgment. Actually I have been thinking that the government might be better served by being in the licensing of children business, but I could just be nutters, ya know.
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By: Katherine on October 31, 2008
at 10:33 AM
LMAO Helen. She’s Sherri Shepherd and when asked by Whoopi, “Is the world flat?,” Sherri replied, “I don’t KNOW, I never thought about it, but I don’t know.” So we know she didn’t attend pre-school.
We have a similar amendment on the Florida ballot. A lot of the population here thought the “hanging chads” was a gay pop group.
Ever watch Bridezillas? The amendment should read “between a Wuss and a Bitch” based on those couples.
It’s all so ironic and boring:
The “sanctity-of-life” demanders are willing to kill any other living creature for fun;
Palin chastises Obama about Khalidi with her spooky, fear-mongering hyperbole, apparently “rogueing” it again since she had no clue McCain gave the same Khalidi nearly $500,000 a decade ago;
and these so-called compassionate, god-lovin’ people want to legislate that, should you love and be committed to a person of the same gender, if either of you gets gravely ill, your partner might be denied access to your bedside in the ICU.
Ahhh, five more days to go. Hang in there. In the meantime, I made a few treats for your halloween viewing pleasure. The tricks are supplied by the usual suspects: Johhny, Sarah, Elisabitch, Billo, etc. Enjoy!!
http://drbuzzieboombatz.wordpress.com/
Oh lord…”The View” just came on…Elisabitch is dressed as Ronnie Reagan and his jellybeans. She doesn’t look enuf like him…she needs more ROUGE!
Ladies, enjoy the pix…have a Halloween giggle!
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By: drbuzzieboombatz on October 31, 2008
at 10:33 AM
Love your blog! I’ll be happy if I can be as half as sharp when I’m in my 80s.
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By: Hoainam on October 31, 2008
at 10:32 AM
I just learned of your blog from http://www.feministing.com and I already know I will be checking back regularly!
Thank you for your strong, smart, and hilarious opinions.
By the way…what is your favorite kind of pie?
Carry on!
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By: Nancy on October 31, 2008
at 10:32 AM
Barack Obama is more “right” about his spiritual values and guiding principles than the so-called Christian “right.”
Where in the bible does Jesus say that we are to discriminate against anyone?
Where in the bible does Jesus say that gay people are to be condemned?
Where in the bible does Jesus have any message other than to love one another?
How can this be so misunderstood by so many people. Sad.
Thanks for the reminder that we are to be our brothers’ and sisters’ keepers.
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By: Barbara on October 31, 2008
at 10:30 AM
Margaret-
As usual, you are “spot on” re Sherri Sheppard. There is no way she pulls her weight on that show (ok, mean pun intended).
How ANYBODY could still be undecided in this political race is absolutely beyond me….my only thought is that the so called “undecideds” are all in a collective coma in some political ICU.
Oh, and if that idiot “Joe The Plumber” (who, it turns out really isn’t a licensed plumber and owes back taxes) can get a publicist, announce he is writing a book and contemplating a singing career then sweetie you absolutely need to get a publicist and get yourself booked on Ellen, The View and SNL
Thanks for all your fantastic musings. I mean it. Really!
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By: Mad Dog on October 31, 2008
at 10:27 AM
Hi Helen —- My daughter turned me on to your blog and I love it.
I have been a republican all my political life–although I don’t necessarily vote “the ticket”. I try to use my brain and heart and vote for the best one running in my opinion. After hearing Obama and Mcain debate I just don’t see how anyone can vote for Mcain. Obama is just so much more intellegent that it blows me away. I feel that what we need in this country right now is intellegence—-that includes someone intellegent enough to know when he needs help and seek that help out—I feel Obama is that man. He may not have the experience but he is smart enough to realize that and smart enough to seek out others and listen to others that offer help. Our country isn’t run by one man but by many. We need someone that realizes that and can listen.
Obama’s my man—I have voted already. Don’t even get me started on Palin—she is stupid to the extreme—so much so that she is just plain scary! God help us if she is elected.
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By: Terry on October 31, 2008
at 10:25 AM
Helen, I don’t think I would have discovered your blog had I not been on vacation on a sailboat at Catalina Island in CA. I was listening to AM talk radio to keep up on the news and they mentioned you.
As all seem to agree – you are a hoot! More importantly, sharp and point on! I tell you, I don’t think I could do a blog. There is so much material out there I think my head would just explode trying to condense down into a daily post!
For example, today I went ballistic when I heard McCain again pound Obama on the “distribute the wealth” theme, then went on to repeat his grand idea of having us taxpayers pay down the mortgages of folks that are in over their heads. As I understand it, pay off their mortgages and then write them a new mortgage at the current value of there home. What is that if not distributing wealth? That could be over $100,000 per mortgage in some cases! Now THAT is a check!
The folks that sold houses to these poor souls got their wealth, the realtors, mortgage brokers and investment bankers got their wealth. Now all taxpayers have to come bail out these folks that made bad decisions, propping up their home value which might eventually provide some wealth, and finally saving the butt of the banks that made the questionable loans in the process by essentially buying their bad loans.
Now I understand the argument about foreclosed houses pulling down neighboring house prices, but isn’t that the free market at work? Like many things, seems we like the free market in good times, but not in bad – we want it both ways. We want our cake and wallow in it too.
I guess one reason I am miffed at this is that back in 2005 after my house had doubled in value in less than 4 years, I said “this can’t continue” and I sold. Yes, I had one of those balloon mortgages, so did what I needed to to not get in trouble. Thought I would wait for the eventual fall and buy again, but now McCain wants to manipulate the market in the favor of those who cannot make sound financial decisions. Am I just whining? I heard we have a tendency to do that.
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By: Terry on October 31, 2008
at 10:22 AM
Love your blog and your post. I couldn’t agree with you more. I just don’t get why people are so theatened by the thought of same sex marriage. It’s only fair that everyone has the same opportunity to marry the person that they love, regardless of race or sex. We finally got past the bans on interracial marriage years ago and I can’t wait for the day we get past the bans on same sex marriage.
Thanks for making my day. Keep on rockin!
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By: Buf on October 31, 2008
at 10:17 AM
Oh shit, I should have read further, scratch my comment about Sherry. WTF is wrong with her. She should have been on board w/ Barack Obama 2 yrs ago. It was 5 years ago when I first came across his name for me. I was on board with Barack Obama for POTUS since way back then. I prayed everyday that he would run in ’08.
Barack Obama for POTUS ’08 AND ‘2012. It’s never too early to start campaining.
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By: Dayna on October 31, 2008
at 10:11 AM
I watch the View all the time and listen to her a lot. She is Crazy.
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By: Dean on October 31, 2008
at 10:11 AM
Sherry is a dumb soul.
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By: Dean on October 31, 2008
at 10:10 AM
Sherry Shepard
She is a good soul. I have watched The View for a small snippet(very small) maybe 4 times since Rosie left. The minute EH is shown and opens that unrealistic ridiculous trap of hers, I immediately change the channel.
I used to watch it almost daily and then daily when Rosie came one.
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By: Dayna on October 31, 2008
at 10:05 AM
I was raised in a christian home and what is funny is I do not share my family’s beliefs that being gay is bad.
I have broken away from christian beliefs because I no longer agree with the teachings. I love people who are good and decent, gay or straight. If I go to hell for that then so be it. I do not believe that God is like that. If he is then I guess I will be going to hell then.
I get tired of people trying to put other people down when they are wonderful citizens.
So called God people can be some of the worst humans on the planet.
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By: Dean on October 31, 2008
at 9:57 AM
I was thinking the same thing about that Sherry what ever her name is. She is an Idiot. I said that to my husband a long time ago.
And guess what I am a black woman!!!!
That Sherry is stupid.
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By: Dean on October 31, 2008
at 9:47 AM
I recently came across your blog and I want to tell you that it is WONDERFUL to hear from a woman who has your life experience! Women need a voice such as yours.
I’m a Canadian but if I could I would definitely be voting for Obama… I can’t even comprehend being undecided. Just 4 more days!
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By: Nikita on October 31, 2008
at 9:42 AM
You blog makes me so happy. Thank you for sharing with us!
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By: Fresh Peaches on October 31, 2008
at 9:37 AM
Thank God!!! The first blog I’ve come across that not only didn’t make me think “Well, there’s 10 minutes of my life I’ll never get back,” but restored my faith that there IS intelligent life out there. Roll on, Margaret and Helen!!
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By: Catgirl on October 31, 2008
at 9:31 AM
The same discriminatory amendment is also on the FL ballot.
Yesterday I had to send an email to The View because The Moron had said Obama voted for increased taxes on anyone making only $42,000. I suggested she do some research on factcheck.org before spouting lies that might influence voters as credulous as she is. It’s too bad that Whoopi or Joy didn’t know the facts behind that distorted ad so they could refute The Moron’s charge.
Even worse, the NY Times published the truth about this false ad, and McCAIN STILL RAN THE CAMPAIGN AD afterwards!
Love your blog! I now need a daily dose.
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By: Marcia on October 31, 2008
at 9:30 AM
This is what gets me about these stupid “Protection of Marriage” acts. Number 1) If people want to attach rules to marriage, perhaps we should start with not allowing couples to divorce after being married for 56 hours as a result of a Vegas wedding. (That was marriage number one for Britney Spears.)
Number 2) People should not just marry for financial reasons. Number 3) If you think you’re going to get divorced, don’t marry in the first place.
I could go on about the rules that could be imposed on marriage. However, I’m hoping that y’all have caught my point.
If one does not like the idea of gay marriage, I have a solution: Don’t marry someone of the same sex!! Problem solved!!!!
Otherwise, let people marry whomever we want to marry.
Even 60 years ago, there were states that did not allow interracial marriage. However, the Supreme Court decided that it was unconstitutional. We look back on our history, with pride, in most areas. However, we also have a checkered past. Our nation had slavery, Plessy v. Ferguson, the Japanese American internment during WWII, to name a few. We can no longer discriminate based upon race or sex. However, we are still practicing the discrimination of sexual orientation. We are all contributing members of society who deserve the right to love anyone we want to, and to share those benefits with our significant others. Trying to “protect” that for heterosexuals is an act of discrimination in itself. We should be ashamed for not affording everyone equal opportunity to reap those benefits that the heterosexual population has enjoyed since the birth of this nation.
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By: D on October 31, 2008
at 9:26 AM
OMG! Margaret and Helen, I’ve just found you through the best political blog around, The Mudflats:Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaska Politics (http://www.mudflats.wordpress.com). The moderator, AKM, keeps us up to date about Sarah Palin and her homestate–it ain’t pretty!
You two are amazing! I’ve sent a link to this blog to two of my oldest friends AND my mom. My mom gets together with 5 of her pals from college 3 times a year. I think they, too, will be tooling around together on their scooters when they are in their 80s!
Keep up the good work! Although I’m All-Obama-All-the-Time, it’s good to hear a similar–and sassy!– view from the mouths (fingertips) of the older and wiser.
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By: JBDC on October 31, 2008
at 9:21 AM
As usual loved this post. My brother lives in Houston and is gay. He has been single for a number of years but I would hate to think that if and when he finds the love of his life that he wouldn’t be able to marry him. I am too young to remember the ‘whites only’ and in a way I am glad. I think that would have just fueled me more. I can’t stand prejeduce in any form and gladly stand up and refuse to hear racial or religious jokes. I have been known to walk out of a room in a rant about the bigots I have to live/work with.
Keep up the good work my friend. And I am NOT quoting McCain. I really mean my friend.
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By: Lisa from Kentucky on October 31, 2008
at 9:18 AM
We’ve had gay marriage in Massachusetts for about three years now. The impact on the commonwealth’s heterosexual marriages?
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By: oddjob on October 31, 2008
at 9:11 AM
I have a theory that the majority of “undecideds” fall into two groups. (1) Those who aren’t really; they just want to confuse the pollsters. It’s a nicer, more delicate way of saying “none of your business.” And (2) those who don’t want to have to admit later that they didn’t back the winner. So they wait to see which way the wind blows and put their money on the favorite so that they can smugly say later that their candidate won.
As to gays and marriage, I’ve never understood why anyone objects to two people wanting to make a legally binding commitment to each other. They’ll be together whether the law allows or not; might as well make it legal.
I only recently discovered your blog, but I am enjoying it immensely.
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By: newbie on October 31, 2008
at 9:10 AM
California isn’t the only state with this discriminatory issue on the ballot. The Christian right (I don’t think Christian should be allowed in the definition) managed to get enough signatures to put this terrible and cruel issue on the ballot. I understand that the Arizona nut cases were also responsible for getting it on the California ballot. This is a clear example of why separation of Church and State should be enforced.
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By: Darlene on October 31, 2008
at 9:10 AM
I adore you. Really. Why does something that seems so obvious and plain to you and me cause so many others to get so lost in depths of anger and fear?
I got paid today, maybe I’ll buy a t-shirt. You guys are the best. Thank you for writing, I mean it 🙂
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By: Kelly on October 31, 2008
at 8:59 AM
Love your posts. I’ve never commented but, I have to tell you…YOUR THE BOMB DITTY!!! You shoot from the hip and you don’t mince your words. Keep doing what you do, it is nice to see someone who isn’t afraid of the “FEAR” they are trying to force feed us.
Wondering though if you are going to touch on the subject of; Rashid Khalidi? Seeings the “moose” has opened that can. They spout Senator Obama is a socialist, marxist, and runs with terrorists. LOL Well, what about Senator McCain? back in the 90’s he distributed several grants to the Palestinean research center co-founded by Khalidi and his (McCain led group) showed a $448,873 grant to Khalidi’s Center for Palestine reasearch and studies in the West Bank. Calling the kettle black once again aren’t they? I will look forward to seeing you comment on this. I realllllllllllly need a laugh! Love you Margaret and please KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO!!!
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By: Ms. Madison on October 31, 2008
at 8:59 AM
There is something about the way you write that leads me back here every day to see what you have to say. I love your style, ma’am.
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By: Father Thomas on October 31, 2008
at 8:58 AM
You are a joy. Thank you so much for speaking your mind. Not only is it refreshing, it’s essential if we as a country and as a world are ever to move forward. I love reading your blog. Man thanks to your grandson for getting it all set up.
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By: Allison on October 31, 2008
at 8:55 AM
Happy Halloween, Helen! You rock! I’ve put a Halloween public service safety announcement on the site. It’s a must read!
http://thedailyduke.com/a-halloween-public-service-announcement-from-the-daily-duke/
All the best,
Duke
p.s. Don’t forget to inspect your candy!
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By: Duke Daley on October 31, 2008
at 8:53 AM
Count me in for a T-shirt! You ladies rock!!!
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By: Margie G. on October 31, 2008
at 8:52 AM
You’re becoming a wonderful habit.
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By: Lulu Maude on October 31, 2008
at 8:50 AM
I’ve been married three times in my life, Helen. You’re right. It’s not all that great. So if the gays want to share the “wealth” of this sanctimonious union, I say let them do it. We know women are less happy in marriage than men are. So maybe two women and two men will be more effective.
Brenda from Tyler
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By: Brenda Kula on October 31, 2008
at 8:50 AM
I am a Grandma living in Kansas—I am hoping we surprise everyone and become a state for Obama– All of my friends, sisters, etc feel like gay marriage is fine. Live and let live we say—
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By: bakekc on October 31, 2008
at 8:46 AM
Thankyou for your clear view. I run back here just to get validation for how I feel. You really need to write a book after this! Your legacy will live on and on.
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By: Catalina on October 31, 2008
at 8:44 AM
Happy Halloween, Helen!
I’m happy to hear that we agree on the idea of gay marriage. (and that it is a form of discrimination…)
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By: Cathy on October 31, 2008
at 8:43 AM
I love you so much, Helen. I’m going to buy a t-shirt today. At least one! And a bumper sticker or two.
You’ve got a small but growing fan club on Facebook called “I heart Helen Philpot”. But obviously your fan club is much larger than that, considering all of the comments you receive every day.
Don’t stop writing! The world needs your voice!
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By: Lorraine on October 31, 2008
at 8:42 AM
I just found your blog. I think I am in love. 🙂
More than luck…
~Ramona
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By: Ramona on October 31, 2008
at 8:37 AM
You always nail it. And yes, Sherri Shepherd also thinks the world is flat.
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By: Tempy on October 31, 2008
at 8:35 AM
Exactly right, Helen. People need to open their minds a little, and not worry about the love lives of others.
The Christian-Right needs to stop stuffing their beliefs down the throats of the rest of us. WWJD? I think he’d mind his own business and be happy people want to make committments to each other in the name of LOVE!
Hugs Helen — you’re the best.
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By: Wendy O'C on October 31, 2008
at 8:34 AM
Loving it ladies.
I’ll check in tomorrow.
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By: Jane on October 31, 2008
at 8:34 AM
Seeing as Sherry Shepherd believes the earth is flat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNC117UYsHs), I wouldn’t pay much attention to what she says about either candidate.
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By: ronbailey on October 31, 2008
at 8:34 AM
Great post! I couldn’t agree with you more.
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By: Luis on October 31, 2008
at 8:33 AM
Helen,
It’s wonderful to hear someone in the heart of Texas call all this anti-gay business for what it is! I never understood myself how my wanting to marry my partner threatened someone else’s marriage. If the marriage was that shaky and weak to begin with, then it was clearly already on its way to an episode of Divorce Court, and didn’t need my help to send it there.
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By: Brian on October 31, 2008
at 8:28 AM
i love you.
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By: mick mars on October 31, 2008
at 8:20 AM
Excellent post as always.
My eyes teared up when you compared the anti-gay marriage signs to the “whites only” signs you used to see. What an amazing comparison!Thru the lens of history all this anti gay stuff will indeed be seen as just pure discrimination. And why shouldn’t two adults be able to commit to each other in whatever way they want- as you say, marriage is hardly “sacred ” now if it ever was. But it can be an awesome powerful committment and I want everyone who wants to to take part.
Great work!
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By: krlock on October 31, 2008
at 8:14 AM
Another excellent post
Good for posting on cafepress
They will make more than 100 bucks for sure
Off to email Ellen to get you on her show!!
Happy halloween. I wonder what Palin will be, oh never mind, prob herself, scary enuf!!
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By: chocolategirl1128 on October 31, 2008
at 8:11 AM
Thank you for this post. I don’t see a difference between saying that gays can’t get married and saying that blacks can’t marry. It sounds shocking to hear about it now but years ago it wasn’t so. Eventually the people in this country will stop being so prejudiced and realize that we should ALL have the same rights.
Vote No on Proposition 8!!!
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By: Amanda on October 31, 2008
at 8:11 AM