Margaret and Helen

Love to follow you! Thanks for your wit and wisdom!!

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Thought you might like to know that Margaret’s wonderful Thanksgiving post, which I reread every year, is now being posted on Facebook verbatim without attribution. It makes me angry!

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Thank you for sharing your grabdmother’s pearls of wisdom. I always look forward to her comments. She is a gem! A brilliant and funny gem!

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I just found about this wonderful blog and love love love these ladies! Am devouring old posts now and can’t wait for new ones!! God bless you all ❤️

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Please add me to your maillist. I really enjoy the “discussions”….

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Just discovered this blog and I am enchanted. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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mjoelom

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I absolutely love this blog. As a blogger myself, I understand the work that is involved. Thank you for your wisdom – and thank you Matthew for your diligence!

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Thank you.

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hermes outlet store MOD | Margaret and Helen

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Burberry Black Friday Deals

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Your article perfectly shows what I needed to know, thanks!

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an attempt to eat betetr and get healthier, we’ve started growing our own veggies and a0taking ourselves on a weekly trip to the local farmers market here in Augusta. If you live

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Gay Hardcore Vids

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gato…you and i are dealing, i think, in semantics. what we think of ourselves and one another is what we’re taught for the most part. like making winning the NUMBER ONE or how we look the most important thing or if someone else dresses differently, eats differently, etc than we do, that is wrong and so are they. when i say we do not respect one another or ourselves i am saying that it is not our purvue to judge another, nor to decide who is acceptable and who is not based on if they comply with what we think is ‘right’. this is where it could get a tad sticky. there are ‘common morals’, actually as stated in the ten commandments, for example. to me, that boils down to respect. why would i do anything to you if i don’t want it done to me? why would it matter to me if, for instance, your Sabbath was oh…thursday, not Saturday or sunday? why would it matter to me if you have a Sabbath at all? why would it matter if your skin was a different color than mine? in thinking about this i sometimes ask myself when conformity becomes complicity. and then sometimes (lol) i say, o shuddup and have a piece of chocolate.

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Wonderful website. A lot of helpful info here. Iˇm sending it to a few pals ans additionally sharing in delicious. And naturally, thanks for your sweat!

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Please let us know that everything is okay? It’s been a long time since any posts.

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Have not seen anything here recently and I’m just wondering if Helen and Margaret are OK? Keeping them in my prayers, just in case! I hope they are well.

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If you don’t like it GTF off amd take your BS elsewhere.

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Thank you for your prompt and useful answer.
Christine

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Hello, Matthew.
How can I receive e-mails letting me know when there are new Margaret and Helen entries. I don’t want to miss any! Also, I would prefer for my name to be deleted from the “comments” list.
Thank you, Matthew.
Christine

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Matthew, you are a true gem.

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Cynthia on August 30, 2012
at 9:46 AM
Matthew will you delete this comment the link contains info personal info.
Thank you.

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Love this blog and so gave it the “Sunshine Blog” award (yes, it’s one of those chain-letter type blog awards, but you have the option of selecting the “Don’t Do a Damn Think, I just like your blog” award instead. The award details are posted (along with a link to this site) at my blog: http://waterblogged-by-lynne.blogspot.com/

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I discovered your blog in February 2012, when you wrote about the Komen Foundation’s withdrawing funds from Planned Parenthood. I enjoyed that post so much (Pink Razors) I had to go through the archives and read more.
But the Komen debacle and your Pink Razors post were some of the inspiration for my own website. Thank you.

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margaret! helen! i am wendy tucker, i live in w. hollywood, ca. i am 69 and i think you both are just captivating and wonderful and smart and funny and expressive and appropriately profane (i love profanity–use it whenever possible). i so admire you, and i thank my friend jilly for sending you my way. i am about to connect you to my like minded peeps. i KNOW they will be in awe of you. thank you to your grandson matthew! whadda guy! stay well and healthy and connected.

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I’d like to take your Grandma to see “Marigold Hotel”! I saw it last week…with a decidedly older audience, and everyone stood and clapped when it was over!

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Holy Cow!! I have a vajayjay!!?? You mean republican men truly and unequivacly know what it’s like to have a several pound baby pass through their six letter word “vagina” and live to tell the tale??? God really is a miracle worker! But what if those republican men don’t have the money or wherewithall to support a baby?? Or what if that baby was made through an adulterous affair??? a rape?? incest??

I hereby propose a new law through the Congress and Senate of the USA. Every congressman and senator of this land who vote against the law of the land that makes abortion legal and medically necessary and against the legal multiple services of Planned Parenthood (Ever had a vaginal infection?? I did and Planned Parenthood took care of it. I had no medical insurance.) must adopt every fetus born because the mother could not afford it, was too ill to care for it, could not live a full life because of it, was raped, the fetus was malformed and would be institutionalized for life, etc. The teapublicans would have to pay for feeding them, clothing them, for giving them constant medical care and a full ride college scholarship. Only then would the teapublicans be free of that burden.

You teapublicans are now and forever in charge of and charged with caring and adopting these sick, accidental and unwanted pregnancies this country will have from now into eternity. God would rather have them back in his hands than to give them over to the likes of you!

So, go girls! Yes we have something no teapublican has, including their women!! A big six letter word!! V-A-G-I-N-A!!! It belongs to us and no one else. We and our physians are the only two that can make this kind of serious decision! It is not to be taken lightly!

Rene’e

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With the single exception (need I say more) I find this absolutely delightful! Thank you for taking the time to patrol, and keep this up. Definitely thumbs up.

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Matthew: I have posted a request on the new post asking that you remove a horribly hurtful and insensitive comment that was posted at 9:22. Thank you.

[you are welcome 🙂 ]

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Rush saw his shadow today. Six more weeks of stupidity…

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Just found your blog. Love it!

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How wonderful! Can’t wait to read all the posts. Thanks to your grandson…what a great person.

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This particular mod is not letting me see my previous post waiting on moderation. Should you decide either way you can add a smile or eye roll to your introduction on this page. I will check for it in the morning.

Note from Matthew:
I know you think this took a lot of my time. It didn’t. It is easy to anticipate seemingly random IPS numbers. Get out of line, and the blocks go right back up. The extra 5 mins a day is no skin off my back. You can disagree all you want. But dozens of posts a day are annoying to everyone involved. It’s not what you say, it’s how often you say it. And for the record, Helen reads the comments for about 30 mins after the posts goes live and then she goes back to “watching her shows”. Margaret reads a lot more of them.

🙂 🙄

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Thanks, Matthew.

Geez, witless anon thinks you control WordPress and can throw out cookies at will? I’m surprised his super sleuth cyber patrol in BFE Michigan haven’t told him he’s insane. Perhaps they’re just popping popcorn and waiting for the inevitable fallout that comes from “paranoia will destroy ya.”

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Frothy, You sound upset. Can I help in any way?

Are you trying to get Helen and I blocked from the blog again?

Wishing you the best?

Froth:
GOOGLE; SPREADING ROMNEY

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Matt, bit of a bitch move on my 12:01 post adding text to my post then altering information on another. Installing a invasive cookie though crossed a line. Type “enough” on this page when you think we can go back to playing nice. Until then let the games begin.

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I just love you two. Bless Heart!

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CAROLYN, those ignorant circlejerks have no life. Apparently there is no other blog that tolerates them.
SOme of them really get off on tryijng to inflate their _______ or egos.

Matthew *please* check the new posts.

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Many of us just don’t go to the blog because of this. We are here to enjoy your grandmother’s wonderful posts. thank you.

What’s so racist about pointing out it’s blacks and Hispanics that have been hurt the most under this feckless President O’Blamer? Do you hate blacks and Hispanics Clearance? Do you want them to live in further abject poverty under this Clown-in-Chief? Can’t you defend your lies. distortions, twisting, and propaganda any better than this? Do you require an echo chamber to operate? Whaaaahhh..

I thought you were the intellects? 😆 Let’s see you debate the facts instead of bark like a seal replete with Soros talking points.

And trust us – the last word in our minds when dealing with your ilk is “fear.”

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wonderful!

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Where is Margaret and Helen? Nothing posted since January. I am worried and miss her comments. Hope she is still kicking and nothing is wrong with her. She is my hero and we need her.

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YO Mathew….Could by chance UPDATE ALL hereabouts in regard to Margaret and Helen…It has indeed been a LONG while and there was referenced health issues regarding spouse and add in the mix the general concerns given folks of particular (semi) advanced accumulated years/etc. MANY admirerers and fans and seekers of the worldly wisomaticals that the general majority who visit hereabouts thoroughly and enjoy and RELISH as well as many CARE for their general well beiningnessings/etc….IT INDEED would be appreciated if ‘we’ could be updated (and further note, the length of the comments on the last post is rather overwhelming many of our various computers in trying to access to even check further in search of updates regarding Margaret and Helen and their respectives….) (some of us are still on ol’ dial up which makes it nigh impossible to boot —here have dsl/high speed and presently keep getting site unavailable after lengthy attempt to load up the comments which are over 1500+….Thanks and please pass on to them “WE” send our regards and are now just truly concerned/etc/etc/etc….
Thanks, an assist in this regard will be deeply appreciated
Bozzy

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I’m so glad I found this blog!

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Thanks so much for this blog, it is a breath of fresh air. I check periodically to see if there’s a new post, and today was treated to 2 brilliant pieces about abortion. Once again, thanks very much, you’ve somewhat restored my faith in Texas.

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Does it take cash money to get in on your family?? Margaret is now taking the place of the political rants my mother used to go off on. She passed in March of 2008 and missed the fiasco that has ensued since. We were both Hillary fans but will dance with whoever brings us to the party! I have often wondered what Mom would have thought about and said about The Paliban. I read this blog and I swear, I can hear her voice in these words. Keep up the good work, this is great!

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I wish my grandma were like that. That post by Tawnya with the Glenn Beck transcript was too much. Just the link, ok?

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Hooray—a great blog that I can take 4-5 days (during a blizzard) to read from start to finish. I’ve already emailed the link to two of my children announcing “I’ve found a new best friend”. I’m 68 and agree with everything she says. I also have to ask my son to bail me out on the computer occasionally.

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All I have to say is thank you.

Okay and I have to add, wow.

And one more thing:

If only all Margarets and Helens had grandsons to help them help the people trust in speaking their minds.

I am so happy I found you all.

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Thank you. I cry sometimes while reading these blogs. Mom always says, “The pendulum will swing.” But it’s such a scary time. Helen and Margaret give me hope. Thank you.

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Again Test

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Sorry. I meant Aug. 19th.

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Grandson, please check in on Grandma and her friend, I am very concerned for them, we haven’t heard from them in some time.

They are in my prayers and praying they are just on vacation! Hopeing for the best! Please let us know if there is anything we can do for them!

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The Captain post is @:
By: Captain on May 24, 2010
at 8:37 PM

It is a comment on Helen’s “Somewhere Over the Rainbow post”

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NOP

As a long time contributor to this site I think you aware of the low level, vulgar comments that have been aimed at H&M from time to time. My point is simply that most of them add nothing to the discussion and hang around too long. Believe me, I’m not a prude but some comments are so far off the scale of propriety they wouldn’t even be heard in the gutter. People who persist in this behavior should be banned. If they want to poison a blog, let them set up their own.

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By: Michelle on May 18, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Yup. He’s just another troll. The site has too many of them with nothing to say.

I know that Matthew is the moderator and he should have the capacity to block useless comments. But it is the vulgar comments about Helen and other contributors that deserve to be removed. They serve no useful purpose.

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I’d be rather surprised to learn that you are more than nine years old.

Actually since you ignore my concerns I’ll return the favor and ignore yours.

Goodbye and have a nice day. This is so boring.

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When someone is called a “douchebag” in public, intelligent people understand that term as a figure of speech. When someone is called a whore, that is an allegation that the person has engaged in illegal activity and unless the person making the statement can prove the accusation, such a characterization constitutes libel and is answerable in court. And don’t for one second think that an anonymous handle on the Internet is protection. IP addresses can be traced and the poster can be identified.

Tea baggers often refer to themselves as such. So I expect that you think they should be banned too.

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Then I assume you approve of statements like those of Cyril on may 10 and Leah & jorja on Apr 20. If so, it is that sort of thinking that is coarsening the public dialog.

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Matthew:

I happen to be an age cohort of your grandmother Helen and thoroughly enjoy her writing. Sadly, some don’t appreciate her at all and express themselves in vulgar terms that should not be allowed to go unchallenged. I have found that whenever I go to right wing websites and try to make a comment, no matter how mild or innocuous, it gets deleted and never appears in print. Is there any way the same rejection can be suffered by the obnoxious posters on H&M’s site?

I’ve been a reader of the site from very early on, almost three years now, but chose not to comment until about a year ago. So I am familiar with some of the more obnoxious posters who never seem to get the hint and go away. Therefore, would it be possible for some of the regular more thoughtful posters to be able to flag the most obnoxious comments and have the posters banned from the site?

There is no question that public discourse has coarsened considerably in recent years and some people think they have free rein to say anything at all irrespective of its relevance or the degree of its crudity. I also realize that some may say that Helen’s salty comments would fall into that category but I don’t agree. I know the difference between “salty” language and downright vulgarities and I have never seen anything that Helen has said that would fall into the latter category.

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Thank you! The world needs more Margret’s and Helen’s

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Hi Matt 🙂 Sending best wishes to Margaret and Helen.

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Matthew,

Please remove Jimmy Z and Joe Schmoe. Helen established the rules — disagreement and strong language are fine. Hatefulness and use of the word f*** are not. Jimmy and Joe have crossed the line on several occasions and it’s t ime for them to get booted.

A Thousand Thanks, Matt!

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looking forward to more. Thanks for writing!

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Matthew, I second reader’s request. We are getting very concerned out here and hoping all is well with Helen, Margaret, and you. Perhaps an open thread could be started while we are waiting for the next post?

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Attn Matthew. I just found a strange comment on “Now it’s your turn” which might be a problem. don’t know if you will read this but I’ve asked for advice from the posters on the current page and hope you will see this to remove it.

It gives a button to download free money or some such nonsense.

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I look forward to your wisdom filled blog.
Tess

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Matt,

PLEASE clean up the porch.

From this comment:
https://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/i-sure-could-use-a-little-good-news-tomorrow/#comment-36053

by: Betty Ftizpatrick November 15, 2009
at 12:19 AM

Greytdog is NOT DEAD.

The next one

by: susie q

links to a gross video
(2 girls / 1 cup)

and I think the next one from Frederick was just to sell us on Greytgod’s demise.

THX ~ PEACE ~ Δ

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I’m a 60 yr old Texas grandmother who was recently introduced to Miss Margaret and Miss Helen. I’ve just whiled away a delightful Sunday reading some of the archives and wondered why there’s a gap from November 07 to October 08? I was really into Thanksgiving dinner. Anyway, if more posts exist, I’d love to know how to read them. If not, I regret not knowing the ladies sooner. Thanks.

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I too, am worried regarding the absence of Helen’s spot-on wit and humor. When irresistible world-shaking events occur (i.e. Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize), and there is no comment, I know something must be wrong. Please up-date if you can, my thoughts and prayers are with your family.
Rae

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Not sure if people use it, probably because there is no driving factor now, but if google starts indexing that metadata, we’ll see more videos have metadata injected in. ,

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It’s been a while since I’ve checked this blog, Matthew. I just wanna say that someday i sure would like to be a granny like your granny and have a cool grandson like you… I need to find some margaret & helen wanna-bees in my community so we can get rid of that old biddy michele bachmann…she’s in my district!!! oh lordie, lordie.

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Thank you so very much for this site. I laugh out loud as well as feel inspired by your wisdom and delighted by the way you write.

I only recently found this wonderful blog, but I have been sharing it with everyone I know…including posting it on my facebook page.

You are definitely a little bit of magic…

Sending a giant hug and lots of encouragement your way! I will wait on the edge of my seat for your next post. 🙂

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A BREATH OF SPRING. TWO LOVELY, OPEN-MINDED WOMEN, WHO ACTUALLY LIKE EACH OTHER. MY SON SENTME YOUR http://WWW.,ETC. HE THOUGHT I NEEDEED A LOT MORE LAUGHS AND INTEREST. ACTUALLY I LOST ‘THE FRIEND’ WHO WAS NOT ONLY WILLING TO LET HER HAIR DOWN BUT BELLOWED WHEN YOU DID. REALLY NOT VERY MANY OF US ARE WILLING TO DO THAT WITHOUT FEELING FOOLISH…OR IS THERE ANOTHER WORD? I HAVE RECENTLY BEGUN TO NAVIGATE THIS DURN MACHINE. 78 CAME AND WENT AND NO ONE TO HOWL WITH ABOUT LIFE’S VISCISITUDES/LEFTOVER JOY TO DREDGE UP. BLESS YOUR LITTLE PEAPICKING HEARTS FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND OUTLOOK. RUSH LIMBAUGH – WHO IS THAT MEALY-MOUTHED (SOB)? YES. POSSIBILITY OF IT BEING INTERPRETED AS A REAL “sob”. YOUR VIEWS ARE RIGHT ARE RIGHT ON.

ENJOY READING ALL RESPONSES FROM OTHER ‘BLOGGERS’, AS THEIR COMMENTS ARE ‘ HERE IN THE PRESENT..’, OR NOT ‘AS I REMEMBER’ OR ‘ BACK WHEN I WAS GROWING UP’…(WAAAY BACK BEFORE THE WHEEL WAS INVENTED.)

THANKS TO YOU BOTH AND ALL OF THEM..MERRY MIRTH TO US ALL, NOW REALLY.

COMPUTER MOM
09/08/09

ON

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Please, please, please compile these posts into a book. I just found this blog and am amazed by the brilliance and wit. It is so rare to find these days and is such treat. Helen should be named a National Treasure.

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Yay for Matthew!! You are a rawkin’ grandson. I’m sorry I never saw this blog until today but am really really enjoying the archives and laughing my head off. My sixteen-y.o. daughter is another instant fangirl, like me.

Margaret and Helen, You Rule!

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How lovely that you are so connected to your Grandmother and what an inspiration both of them are to us all!

Thank you so much for the “odd hours” you are able to contribute!

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How right you both are! If only those who give money to her campaign reslized how stupid she is, but then if they are giving money to her camgaign, they are pretty stupid as well. I really liked Helen’s comment about Palin not wanting more governemnt involvement except of course, on abortion. Keep them coming Helen and Margaret, you two are the best!

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Had my grandmother lived longer, she’d have made a fantastic blogger. She is my hero. I miss her heaps. Glad to see other amazing ladies like you are blogging.

Peace,
Jamie

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I just found this terrific blog through a commenter on FireDogLake. (Love the internet!)

I’m 71 years old, just a peanut in Margaret and Helen’s world, but I blog, too. In fact I wrote a blog today about those two remarkable ladies and cross-posted it on Talking Points Memo.

Here: http://ramonasvoices.blogspot.com/2009/07/82-yr-old-blogger-skewers-palin-and.html

and here: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/ramona/2009/07/82-year-old-blogger-skewers-pa.php?ref=reccafe

Note the comments on TPM. Lots of new readers–including me.

The blog is on my bloglist, too.

(Got the age wrong on the link but changed it on the blogs.)

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H&M – Here’s something I bet will get you feeling better! It’s another dumb move by your favorite former VP Candidate …http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-13/palins-new-disaster

Is this yahoo for real?

Thanks for keeping me interested in US politics, Ladies and have a great day!

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Hey Matthew – life gets busy, we all know that. The new post will come when it comes, no earlier, no later. In the meantime, keep doing what you do so well. . . and if you’re still in London, take some time and wander over to Spain. . .

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matthew – i didn’t know you were in london! i travel there from time to time for work so if you’d ever like to grab a cuppa with a texan, email me offline and i’ll let you know when i’m there next. thank you for all you do to keep this site going. all 3 of you rock.

sharron
bee caves, tx

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This is my favorite web site. I’d give anything to have a grandmother like Helen! Thanks to Helen and Margaret and to you for making it all possible.

This reminds me a bit of our family business. My mom, who is 77, recently started writing murder mysteries (which we self-publish). I’m the editor, my sister does layout and designs the web site, and my son designs the covers. As with your grandmother, this new adventure has kept my mom young and enjoying life.

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hey matthew – just thought i’d drop in again and tell you how much we appreciate your setting this up for your grandmother and keeping it alive!

-s
bee caves

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Matthew – thank you for sharing your wonderful grandmother with us. I only wish I had a grandmother like her. But, at least I know have a role-model for who I want to be like when I grow up… 🙂

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Matthew, hoping you get home for the holidays; if not, head up to Scotland and enjoy the holidays there. Thanks for all your hard work – and patience. Cheers!

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Matthew-
Thank you for your part in making Helen and Margaret’s virtual parlour so comfortable.

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You are the BEST! Wish I had such sassy and thought provoking grandmas!

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Lovely ladies,

Have you seen the transcript or heard the interview of Joe the Plumber with Glenn Beck? I found it on the huffingtonpost and followed it to Glenn Beck’s site. What follows is very long… it is the full transcript and my rantings on a message board. I don’t know what I expect y’all to do with it, but y’all have a bigger audience than I do, and I’m just so BEYOND on this whole type of “journalism” and speaking about things in shadow rather than taking the facts as they are and going from there. Thanks.

Tawnya

http://www.huffingtonpost…r-mccain-ap_n_149723.html

full transcript here: http://www.glennbeck.com/…ticles/article/198/19055/

GLENN: 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK. Joe the plumber is on the phone. Joe, some of us have written three New York Times best selling times. Who do you think you are, just picking up a pen and writing some sort of drivel?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Mmm…

GLENN: Joe, you obviously have seen the New York Times review, haven’t you?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Yeah, I saw that. I kind of laughed about it.

GLENN: Have you ever seen — you should wear that as a — I’d have T-shirts made with that review on it. Have you ever, have you ever read anything so full of hatred?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Unfortunately, yes. I have received a couple of letters and I’ve had some composed. I’ve seen a couple of letters out there. What amazed me is I haven’t done anything of late. So why stir everything back up again. I understand the book and everything. Just, that wasn’t news. I mean, just more or less this guy’s opinion and he just wants to stir the pot, you know. I was a reporter (if I was a reporter in New York Times, I think I’d actually go for something a little bit more hard hitting myself.

GLENN: Well, I have to tell you it makes me want to go out and buy your book just to piss the New York Times off. What a bunch of snobs. First of all, who’s the publisher? Who published your book?

JOE THE PLUMBER: PearlGate Publishing, a small company out of Austin, Texas.

GLENN: Oh, well, what do they know then. They don’t know literature.

JOE THE PLUMBER: No, but they do know struggle and strife, you know, a small company trying to get into the publishing business. That’s a pretty hard road to —

GLENN: They’re not too big to fail. You know what I’m saying? This won’t be a company that we’ll have to bail out. I mean, nor would we, nor should we when so many great companies like the New York Times need to be bailed out.

Joe, tell me about the book.

JOE THE PLUMBER: Oh, essentially it goes through the 2008 election, you know, what transpired a little bit as far as me. It gives you an inside look. You know, I like to think I’m a little bit more educated than some out there in politics just because it’s interesting to me that, you know, Washington talks about knowing your government and, you know, and actually keeping it in check and so I’ve always been interested in it, and getting the inside look, though, I honestly felt even more dirty after I had been on the campaign trail and seen some things that take place. It was scary, man.

GLENN: Like what?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Well, I spoke to John McCain pretty in-depth and, you know, I’ll tease you here. A lot of liberals are going to love that passage. Right now I’m painted as the right-wing conservative nut, but I’m just an American wanting, you know, what every other American wants and that’s, you know, honesty from our elected officials which, you know, has not happened in a very long time. So it’s just a straight talk about John McCain, Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, some other people I met along the way.

GLENN: Well, okay. Let’s take them one by one. Tell me about John McCain, something that I don’t know.

JOE THE PLUMBER: Well, something you don’t know, actually it’s probably stuff that you’ve already guessed and has already been painted in the different media spotlights. Just, well, you know, the bailouts. When I was on the bus with him, I asked him a lot of questions about the bailout because most Americans did not want that to happen, yet he voted for it. At the same time he’s talking about how he’s going to make somebody famous if they even think about putting pork in the bill? We all know how much pork was in the $700 billion bailout package. And why did he vote for it? And I asked him pretty direct questions and some of the answers you guys are going to receive, you know, they appalled me, absolutely. You know, I was angry. In fact, I wanted to get off the bus after I talked to him.

GLENN: Really?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Why didn’t you get off the bus?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Honestly because the thought of Barack Obama becoming President scares me even more.

GLENN: Okay. Now, let me just —

JOE THE PLUMBER: I almost —

GLENN: Let me play devil’s advocate here and let me play the New York Times, except I’ll be fair. Isn’t that part of the problem, Joe, that people will sell out their values because they will say, “No, well, I just don’t want that; so I’ll take this, I’ll settle for this.” Isn’t that the problem with our system of government right now is we’ve settled for so long, we keep getting something that we don’t want and it just gets worse and worse and worse.

JOE THE PLUMBER: Well, and that’s exactly right. I mean, you know, hopefully I wasn’t too big a proponent of that, this — what do you call it — tripping post, if you will. There isn’t somebody. Neither campaign put out a — no, I’m not going to speak for the Democrats but I mean, the Republicans didn’t put out a candidate for us to really vote for. It’s the lesser of two evils. When you get to that level, you’ve compromised your principles, you’ve compromised your values so often and you owe your soul to whatever special interest group or lobbyist has padded your campaign finances and everything else that you no longer are your own man. So you can no longer stand on your own feet because they’ve been cut out from underneath you years ago.

GLENN: What did you think of Sarah Palin?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Sarah Palin’s absolutely the real deal. You know, I only got to spend a short amount of time with her but, you know, it was been asked if I felt any presence when I was with John McCain or Barack Obama. You know, with Sarah Palin, I don’t want to say I felt a presence but she definitely had energy and she definitely went to work for American people, and it disgusts me on how often they try to bash her just for her sincerity. It’s just, you know, she really wants to work for America and I mean, I wish people would listen to her and let them, and let her work for us. You know, she wants to serve us. She’s not looking for power.

GLENN: Don’t you think that people would listen to her but between the people in Washington that won’t let go of power and the people in the media that also don’t want to let go of power, they need to destroy her because she’ll destroy their power structure.

JOE THE PLUMBER: Oh, their way of life, absolutely. I mean, she would curtail that. She would bring in, you know, common sense answers to — you know, you were just talking about how you need to be a genius to run a system that, well, when you can’t run it. I mean, you need to break it down, really scale it back and start over a little bit. Maybe back where our founding fathers are at. I mean, you know, for example, you know, Hillary Clinton, the whole deal with her as far as becoming Secretary of State. You know, it’s kind of against — well, it’s not kind of. It’s against the Constitution right now where it stands. But they’re talking about getting around it. You know, seems like every time they want to do something, if something’s in the way, they will get around it. What are we teaching our children? What are we teaching people, just even ourselves? You know, if something’s in the way, we’re going to get around it? It’s there for a reason and I mean very good reasons. Our country’s been the greatest country in the world for a very long time, yet these people think they’re good enough or smart enough and they will get around it so that way they can serve? They don’t want to serve. They just want that power is all it comes down to, Glenn.

GLENN: Well, I think you are right on the money. I will tell you this in talking to one of my guys who’s deep in the Constitution, he’s saying that she can’t have two offices. That’s the problem. She can’t occupy the two offices and then two different branches, but it’s kind of iffy on that. It’s not really clear. And if she gets rid of her office, then it should be fine. But she couldn’t be a senator and Secretary of State. That’s the real problem there.

JOE THE PLUMBER: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: You would still have a problem with that?

JOE THE PLUMBER: No, I wouldn’t. You know, I have no problem with her being — well, I don’t want to say that. I mean, you know, will ultimately she become Secretary of State? I don’t question that. It’s just the fact that I believe I was watching Hannity and Colmes. You know, they had one of their guys on there saying that they will get around it and it will be okay. That’s the problem I have is the fact that, you know, if the Constitution gets in the way, they will have a lawyer or judge get around it. Kind of like God in their country. Gosh, it’s hard following them, we’ll get around it. We’ll just take this part of the Bible out because it’s hard. They are always looking to get around something, you know? Life is not easy, and to be a good person you’ve got to work hard at it. And people just want to kind of get around it and, you know, it’s just not — that’s not the moral fiber that this country was built on.

GLENN: Joe, you’re just a regular guy. You just, you know, feel what you feel. You are hanging out with normal people, unlike our politicians. You listen to this program, if I’m not mistaken, right?

JOE THE PLUMBER: You are absolutely correct.

GLENN: Okay. What do you think is coming our way if things don’t change in Washington? What do you think’s — where are we headed?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Well, I mean, you know, I’m not comparing anybody. You know, I don’t want you to stir up a hornet’s nest here but, you know, when Adolf Hitler had come to power, one of the first things he did was take guns away. You know, we’re a country that doesn’t really listen to history. Let me go that route. And so we seem to, our country repeating the mistakes that other countries have already made and they are bogged down in now and, you know, some of the things that our current elected President Obama is suggesting really goes down a socialist road and that’s just —

GLENN: So but I want to ask you, because I see where we’re headed. I mean, they are talking about nationalizing the car industry now.

JOE THE PLUMBER: Oh, Lord.

GLENN: I mean, you want that crappy car, what was it, the Zil or whatever it was that they made over in Russia, that’s where we’re headed. But what I want to ask you more is what do you feel from the average person? How is the average — is the average American going to take a socialized state, a huge nationalized state or are they going to want to reset the Constitution?

JOE THE PLUMBER: Well, you know, it really depends on the other 2/3 of Americans that didn’t vote, Glenn. They are so disenfranchised with the political system currently, they don’t feel they have a voice or that their vote even counts. So they stay home on election day. It really depends on them people, if they are going to actually get off their duff and become educated and get involved. As of right now, yeah, everyone who has their hand out. So you know, I see a lot of people out there who would much rather let the state take care of them and screw everybody else. “I want to look out for me.” It’s no longer “I want to look out for my country, I want to look out for my neighbor,” I want to look out for me and only me. Very selfish.

GLENN: Very quick, last question. Are you going to run for office?

JOE THE PLUMBER: I’m going to do my national watchdog group. Hopefully I have more of an impact in that process than congress. Congress would be one voice amongst many and that’s going into the snake’s den, so to speak. That would be real hard, Glenn. I’m not real sure about that.

GLENN: Strengthening your local community is the way to go. Joe the plumber, thank you very much. The name of the book is Fighting for the American Dream.

My Posts to a message board follow:

“That’s the problem I have is the fact that, you know, if the Constitution gets in the way, they will have a lawyer or judge get around it. Kind of like God in their country. Gosh, it’s hard following them, we’ll get around it. We’ll just take this part of the Bible out because it’s hard.” WTFFF?

I hardly even know where to begin with this. Let me start by saying that JTP doesn’t even know what he is talking about? He doesn’t have a full scope of not one issue that he has been given a platform and an effing book deal to spout off about. “People need to know history.” Yes, MFer, you do!

The slippery slope and spectre of socialism negates any government efforts to make the country work better?

Washington is afraid of a straight talking, sincere Palin destroying their power structure?

And people who look to sources like Glenn Beck, Hannity and Colmes (soon to be just Hannity), and fox News for their primary source of information, are being handled a load of S.H.I.T. and don’t even know it!! (and by s.h.i.t. I mean, misinformation, convoluted hypothesis, tangents coupled with scary outcomes, hyper focus on misleading and discredited issues, etc.) But because these media people look like them, seem relatable to their upbringings, and try so hard to make themselves one of the people, then the people believe what they are being told.

I don’t say this to demean the people who do watch. I say it to CONDEMN the media people who are playing to the peoples’ fear of their rights and traditions being taken away by all of the “others.” (and by “others” I mean liberals and “liberals,” feminists and “feminists,” non-evangelical Christians, non-Christians, big-city dwellers, and a whole lotta other folks).

This is but one example of the hyper focus on non issues that I am talking about.

JOE THE PLUMBER: “… I mean, you know, for example, you know, Hillary Clinton, the whole deal with her as far as becoming Secretary of State. You know, it’s kind of against — well, it’s not kind of. It’s against the Constitution right now where it stands. But they’re talking about getting around it. ”

GLENN: “Well, I think you are right on the money. I will tell you this in talking to one of my guys who’s deep in the Constitution, he’s saying that she can’t have two offices. That’s the problem. She can’t occupy the two offices and then two different branches, but it’s kind of iffy on that. It’s not really clear. And if she gets rid of her office, then it should be fine. But she couldn’t be a senator and Secretary of State. That’s the real problem there.”

So JTP, you and Glenn have brought up this scary scenario of Clinton and her lawyers crapping on the constitution so she can be both senator and sec’y of state?

But then you say that it doesn’t look like she’s actually trying to do that… but if she did, then she’d be trying to find lawyers and judges to help her get around it? WHO THE FUCK is trying to hold on to two seats? WHO THE FUCK is trying to get around it? Clinton? Not a lick of truth to that assertion/implication/insinuation/piece of crap. You are not a responsible journalist/commentator or whatever else you call yourself Glenn. You are a s.h.i.t. stirrer. Cloaking yourself in the good, hardworking American coat. You are an imposter. A Fraud.

JOE THE PLUMBER: “No, I wouldn’t. You know, I have no problem with her being — well, I don’t want to say that. I mean, you know, will ultimately she become Secretary of State? I don’t question that. It’s just the fact that I believe I was watching Hannity and Colmes. You know, they had one of their guys on there saying that they will get around it and it will be okay. That’s the problem I have is the fact that, you know, if the Constitution gets in the way, they will have a lawyer or judge get around it.”

And JTP, you are an idiot who has not done his own research on issue one.

“…and it disgusts me on how often they try to bash her [Palin] just for her sincerity.” False.

” It’s just, you know, she really wants to work for America and I mean, I wish people would listen to her and let them, and let her work for us.” Doing what? Championing which causes and platform? If I don’t agree with her, then I don’t want her.

You know, she wants to serve us. She’s not looking for power.” I will give the benefit of the doubt and not say “False.” But I will say “a-hahahaha!!”

GLENN: Don’t you think that people would listen to her but between the people in Washington that won’t let go of power and the people in the media that also don’t want to let go of power, they need to destroy her because she’ll destroy their power structure.

People at home are nodding along to this mess because they believe the messengers. Who here has an FUCKING break? Because I need one.

JTP “So you know, I see a lot of people out there who would much rather let the state take care of them and screw everybody else. “I want to look out for me.” It’s no longer “I want to look out for my country, I want to look out for my neighbor,” I want to look out for me and only me. Very selfish.”

The whole conflated capitalism vs. socialism saga is mish-mashed together in this statement of supreme stupidity and irony.

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