Margaret, once again I am going to have to call bullshit. I get that most people thought President Obama didn’t put in a stellar performance at the debate. And I understand that his not doing well was newsworthy. After all, he’s done much better in the past with much less on the line. But I can’t believe that I actually need to tell the media just how the cow ate the cabbage on this one.
It’s pretty simple really. The other guy lied.
How can the media continue to make Obama’s poor performance the top story rather than the fact that the other guy looked really, really great while he lied through his teeth?
In the primary debates, Romney is on record as saying that he would lower taxes for the wealthiest Americans because that would lead to job growth. That’s not an assumption on my part. It’s almost a direct quote. But in the debate last week, he said that he wouldn’t lower taxes on the wealthy. Now, one of the two is a lie. So shouldn’t we be focusing on which one is the lie rather than on which candidate looked more excited to be there?
Romney actually claims he will lower taxes for everyone. At the same time he will increase defense spending, not cut Medicare or Social Security, keep most of Obamacare (while simultaneously repealing it) and somehow in the end he will decrease the deficit. I don’t know what he’s smoking but I bet its illegal in the Mormon church.
How in the world can we continue to claim that Romney won the debate? He couldn’t have taken more opposing positions if he was playing a game of Twister.
Left foot yellow. During the debate, Romney claimed that Obamacare “puts in place an unelected board that’s going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have.” Another lie. But wow what energy in the delivery! The point goes to Romney on style alone. Never has talking out of both sides of one’s mouth looked so good.
Right hand red. Romney wants to repeal Dodd-Frank because the bill designates banks as “too big to fail” and therefore gives them “a blank check.” Yet another lie. But he looked very presidential while saying it so we’ll let it slide.
Right foot blue. Romney also took Obama to task on the economy’s performance over the past four years. Romney said that we have “23 million people out of work…The proof of that is that 50 percent of college graduates this year can’t find work.” In case you didn’t notice that’s a lie followed by another lie. But hey, the President was looking down at the time, so let’s hire a body language specialist and make that the lead story for the next seven days.
Right hand green. Obamacare cutting billions from Medicare was one of Romney’s favorite attack lines. Romney looked straight at the camera and said that $716 billion was cut from Medicare because of the Affordable Care Act. Yes. It was another lie. At this point his pants were literally on fire. You just couldn’t see it because of the podium. However, President Obama looks like he doesn’t want to be here so let’s focus on that and ignore the smoke coming from Romney’s magic underwear.
This country went to war twice because the media was so afraid of appearing liberal that they were too scared to report the truth. I really thought we had learned our lesson with Bush. Calling a liar a liar, even if that liar is a Republican, doesn’t mean you have a liberal bias. It means you are reporting the facts.
Well if the media won’t do it, I will…
This just in: It wasn’t clear at first, but we checked the facts and Romney was lying. He also failed his urine test and is being stripped of any debate medals. It appears now that Obama won the debate. Feel free to call me liberal. I can take it. I mean it. Really.
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Anonymous on October 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM
“What else could explain why the both of you spend so much time belittling others?”
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others.
By: Truth Teller on October 12, 2012
at 11:58 PM
Hi Congenial Gang,
If I may, I would like to interrupt the proceedings here for a sort of infomercial. These are a few of the “Facts of Life” I never knew until I had had two children and was 32 years old! I learned the hard way.
I never went to medical school to say nothing of specializing in Gynecology. Probably not too many bloggers have either. But let’s review what little we do know about it from scuttlebutt and practical experience. The two ovaries in the woman produce and release an “egg” once a month, sometimes more than one. The egg travels from the ovary down through the skinny little fallopian tube into the uterus. Sperm travel UP from the vagina, through the uterus into the fallopian tubes to unite (fertilize) with the egg. It is quite a journey for both these microscopic little LIVING cells. Therefore, the idea that LIFE begins at conception when the sperm penetrates the egg is a male chauvinist concept and a misnomer that got started somewhere back in the mists of time before of anyone knew much about Biology, Physiology and Gynecology. It probably had something to do with when men finally made the connection that they actually had anything to do with procreation.
Both the egg and the sperm are living cells with life and mobility to begin with. A dead sperm cannot penetrate a living egg; conversely a live sperm cannot penetrate a dead egg. And only ONE sperm out of innumerable in a single ejaculation can fertilize ONE egg. The rest of them die. (Twins, triplets and other multiple births are a different story I need not get into now.)
The lining of the uterus has a specialized tissue found nowhere else the body, certainly no where in the male body. The sole purpose of this tissue called the “endometrium” is to provide a “nest” for the fertilized egg to burrow into and begin dividing to become an embryo. The endometrium has a rich blood supply of oxygen and nutrients for the developing embryo. The embryo cannot survive without the endometrium. When all goes well, the embryo grows into a fetus and in approximately nine months is born into a fully developed human baby. If the egg is not fertilized, then the endometrium lining thins out and the egg dies. Then both slough off and are ejected in what we know as the menstrual period.
Sometimes, for poorly understood reasons, endometrial cells turn up elsewhere in the abdominal cavity, often in the fallopian tubes. During the menstrual cycle, those extraneous cells enlarge just like the endometrium and eventually “bleed” as a result of hormonal activity. That can cause blockage in the fallopian tube(s). Then the egg and sperm cannot get together. The condition is called “Endometriosis”. It is fairly common in women and often a cause of infertility. It is probably heritable. The symptoms besides infertility can be pain (menstrual cramps) or none at all.
If a woman happens to become pregnant, for nine months the endometrium and extraneous cells do not “bleed”. Thus the extraneous cells elsewhere sorta shrivel up for that length of time, until after the birth of the child and the menstrual cycles begin again. So pregnancy is a good treatment for endometriosis. However, if pregnancy is not possible, the same hormones, estrogen and progesterone that promote the uterus to prepare the uterine “nest” for a fertilized embryo are often prescribed as treatment for intractable endometriosis. Estrogen and progesterone are the hormones in birth control pills.
Occasionally, a fertilized egg mistakes a little patch of endometrium inside the fallopian tube, burrows in and begins to grow. When it does, it is called an “Ectopic Pregnancy” a very dangerous situation. When the fallopian tube ruptures because it cannot expand to accommodate the growing embryo, it is like a tire blow-out on a car from nearby blood vessels. The embryo promptly dies from lack of oxygen and blood supply. Without immediate emergency medical intervention, the resulting hemorrhage can be fatal to the woman. There is no time to consult with religious, political leaders and insurance companies to see if they approve.
An egg does not discriminate between the sperm of a rapist, loving spouse or incest. But if an ectopic pregnancy results, the woman’s life certainly hangs in the balance. When the right-wing politicians, obviously untrained in medical science and/or followers of the Gospel according to Saints Limbaugh and Beck start expounding on about “abortion”, I’m sure they would classify and invoke a prohibition on ectopic pregnancies if they had ever even heard of them. As far as I am concerned, they can rave on to their heart’s content about whatever they think might get the attention they crave for their ratings. As for the rest of us, we can choose to seek reliable medical advice from well trained professionals.
Aloha! Namaste. Shalom. Saalam. Peace.
Auntie Jean
By: waialeale on October 12, 2012
at 11:35 PM
you’re confusing me, Truth Teller. Can you explain?
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 10:57 PM
“What else could explain why the both of you spend so much time belittling others?”
297. Noah | October 4, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Going to step up and apologize for going there R. No excuse for it no matter how much you exasperate me. Probably still wont hang out much as any kind of meaningful debate is predicated on some level of honesty/objectivity. Not sure how much you truly ever had in the past, but what is clear is you have none now.
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By: Truth Teller on October 12, 2012
at 10:43 PM
Oh, and UAW–here I stand up for you and you say something really gratuitously crappy. That was uncalled for.
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 10:40 PM
Hi, Terri: Here’s how I look at it. Although I only “know” UAW from this blog, he and I have dealt with each other here for several years. As much as a fellow poster can be, I view him as a friend. So it makes me feel bad when you bash him, just the way I am sure you would feel if someone were to bash someone you liked. I enjoy your posts and don’t want to feud with you. Perhaps we can leave it at that. Thanks.
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 10:39 PM
BIDEN, on whether U.S. should have beefed up security at the U.S. Consulate in Libya before the deadly terrorist attack there: “We weren’t told they wanted more security there.”
RYAN: “There were requests for more security.”
THE FACTS: Ryan is right, judging by testimony from Obama administration officials at a congressional hearing this week.
Charlene R. Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary for diplomatic security, told lawmakers she refused requests for more security in Benghazi, saying the department wanted to train Libyans to protect the consulate. “Yes, sir, I said personally I would not support it,” she said.
Eric Nordstrom, who was the top security official in Libya earlier this year, testified he was criticized for seeking more security. He said conversations he had with people in Washington led him to believe that it was “abundantly clear we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident. How thin does the ice have to get before someone falls through?”
By: Anonymous on October 12, 2012
at 8:41 PM
lol Donna your Obsession with me cracks me up. your rock “girl” lmao
By: Anonymous on October 12, 2012
at 8:38 PM
sorry Terri…
I probably shouldn’t have got on the kitty cat but she kinda asked for that one…..”My name conveys what I(am)….so I looked…..
By: uawtradesman on October 12, 2012
at 8:18 PM
People who want to be treated like a human being should try acting like one.
By: Anonymous on October 12, 2012
at 8:16 PM
YEP…great debate…..
Biden claims he voted against war in Iraq and Afghanistan…..to bad that it’s on record that he voted for it…..typ…..
By: uawtradesman on October 12, 2012
at 8:12 PM
Gato, take a deep breath and ignore him.
By: Terri in NY on October 12, 2012
at 8:00 PM
looked up Gato on google….LMFAO….
sneak thief…..moneybags…..syphilis……
dar gato por liebre
figurative,….. colloquial to swindle, pull the wool over someone’s eyes
gato encerrado
figurative ……something fishy
no hay gatos or no hay un gato
colloquial…… there isn’t a soul
YEP….
By: uawtradesman on October 12, 2012
at 7:58 PM
Bill Maher’s tweet summed up how my husband and I were feeling throughout the evening watching the debate. Mr. Ryan was being whipped. He definitely looked and acted like the little kid next to good old Joe. I felt for the other side when they started complaining about how un-vice presidential (is that a word?) the Vice President looked, about his laughter, his posture, and what have you. Reminded me of a recent debate when the other person was smirking and kept interrupting. Heard not a peep out of them. Our side did complain then I know. Now, we are even.
By: Easier on October 12, 2012
at 7:46 PM
Breaking news…..someone shot a bullet threw the window of Obama headquarters in Denver. There were people working in the office at the time. No one got hurt and the police have a description of a vehicle.
By: sidney18511 on October 12, 2012
at 7:43 PM
HI Donna….
If someone treats me like a human being, then I’ll do the same…..
F YOU Sidney….
that’s from my technical writing college course…….simplify things……don’t write 75 words to say 2…..
By: uawtradesman on October 12, 2012
at 7:37 PM
Donna, while we’re at it, and with all due respect, one other thing that doesn’t need to be reiterated again is your support for UAW. You like him, we know, but he is consistently rude and some of us don’t share your feelings.
By: Terri in NY on October 12, 2012
at 7:34 PM
you got that right Sidney…….Can’t fix stupid….
If you would crawl out of the hole your in maybe you could be “enlightned”……
and as far as Biden beating up on a kid,….it was more “be polite to the senile old f^%K…..
By: uawtradesman on October 12, 2012
at 7:24 PM
UAW–you crack me up.
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 7:21 PM
Now their planning a “Million Muppet March”….
A “Save Our Embassies March” makes more sense……
By: uawtradesman on October 12, 2012
at 7:18 PM
Some of my favorite moments from the debate: when Biden confronted Ryan with the fact he had requested stimulus money after constantly trashing the stimulus program. Also, when Biden repeatedly told Biden his 20 percent tax plan wasn’t mathematically possible. And Biden’s answer re abortion was perfect. He owned Ryan. And the proof Biden won: the whining from the right about the moderator, the number of times Biden laughed, etc. They are overcome with the vapors from the trouncing Ryan received. Good job Joe!
By: Terri in NY on October 12, 2012
at 7:18 PM
Thank you, Sidney–I see that you came to the same conclusion. So now we can live ignoring him, and not talk further about doing it. Deal?
I will continue to deal with UAW. You don’t have to, but I do have a history with him and I do know that he’s a good person. You’ve told me that you disagree–I don’t need to hear it again. I like him and imagine that I will continue to do that. When I disagree with him, I’ll tell him. But I do wish him the best.
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 7:16 PM
Gato: This is not an “order” or anything of the sort, and I trust you know that. It’s a request. Please, now and going forward, ignore him. No exceptions. The pathology is building up, as it has in the past, and Matthew will ban him again. Let that happen, please. Thanks and have a good weekend.
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 7:13 PM
Gato….I loved the entire debate, Biden was masterful, confident and showed compassion, not to mention his beautiful white teeth and that laugh…..now Ryan looked like a little kid, completely out if his league and it seemed like his ears were getting bigger with each lie, by the end of the debate he looked like Mr. Potato head.
I love your posts and get so much out of them. I”m sure that there are many porch dwellers who feel the same.
As far as anon and UAW, I almost responded to that last idiotic post that he sent to you. But I stopped myself. He has no interest in discussion. Every post mocks us and our ideals. I am going to do my best to completely ignore all his drivel. No more peanuts for him, no matter how much he spins and begs. You can’t enlighten him, or get him to see things from a different point of view, you just can’t fix stupid. Let’s make a pact…..and ignore the trolls.
By: sidney18511 on October 12, 2012
at 7:11 PM
Biden said he wasn’t told…..
means….I haven’t got a clue……
HAHAHAHAHA
By: uawtradesman on October 12, 2012
at 7:09 PM
You are, like Donna, obviously an insecure person. What else could explain why the both of you spend so much time belittling others? I am sorry you cannot get past the anon thing, that is your problem not mine.
Now you should be a good little trooper like Beth and do as Donna says. She expect others to follow her orders.
FYI what you label as BS is in actuality anyone who disagrees with you. As noted by a previous post, the real aggressive people here were listed. Please continue to be as nasty as you feel you need to be. Team misfit is always good for that, and a laugh.
By: Anonymous on October 12, 2012
at 7:01 PM
Gato: the story about the guy whose kids were killed was one of the most calculated and hateful moves possible. Ryan knew that Biden’s wife and daughter were killed in a car wreck. What a tool.
Then stop responding. Seriously. You accomplish nothing and the fighting cats comment is, with all due respect, a little silly. Just share your interesting thoughts and disregard the mold in the corner.
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 6:51 PM
Hi, Donna – And then there was the moment when Ryan was telling the story about how Mittens went to see somebody (a fellow Mormon) and brought Christmas gifts and promised to send his kids through college… And Joe replied, mentioning that he had lost his wife and child… And didn’t make a sob story out of it. He said just what needed to be said. A powerful moment, IMHO…
BTW, I am getting sick to death of Non’s bullshit. Maybe you noticed my reply. (I know; I shouldn’t even bother…) OH, YEAH, I USED A DIRTY WORD!! Well, Lordy, take me down for that. Not going to happen.
I can hardly wait for Non’s obsequious reply: going to be some lecturing, some very long sentences, some righteous posturing, as always. I’ve got my Delete button at the ready.
Best to you, and Porch Sitters all. Hang tough!
Helen and Margaret: Love you both…
Gato
By: gatodicima on October 12, 2012
at 6:44 PM
Non… There is no whining here. And there is nothing “poor” about me. I am a fighting cat, and you have never seen the like of someone like me, and all my sisters, with claws out, who will use them to pull you out from under the porch, from the darkness where you lurk. My name is all women. We are all fighting cats.
My name conveys what I, and my sisters and brothers, are: fighters. Your “name” conveys exactly what you are: Anonymous. Meaning nothing.
GATO!
By: gatodicima on October 12, 2012
at 6:34 PM
Hi, all–hope you enjoyed the debate. I certainly did. Favorite moment: Ryan muttering about how he just made a request “for a constituent” when he asked for stimulus money. Second favorite moment: Ryan trying to rationalize his vote for the sequester. Sure, Joe was a bit out there–but I’ll take it.
By: Donna on October 12, 2012
at 6:29 PM