HELEN:
Margaret, I just called my friend Patricia to apologize for dipping her hair into that inkwell back in grade school. I feel bad that I did it and I feel even worse that she no longer remembers who I am or that she one time had hair long enough to put in pig tails. We’re getting old, Margaret. And you know what else is getting old? The parade of schmucks who keep running for political office.
The population of the United States is now over 300 million people. That means that every four years, one person out of 300 million gets the honor of being President of the greatest country on the planet. With those odds, you would think the Republican Party could have found someone who wasn’t a dry drunk like George W. Bush… or the bully in high school like Mitt Romney. I know. I know. We all did dumb things when we were young. Youth. I miss it like I miss my waistline. Shit happens… or in this case Mitt happened. “Back in high school, I did some dumb things,” Romney said. “And if anyone was hurt by that or offended, obviously I apologize for that.” Me too. I really do feel bad about dipping Patricia’s hair into that ink well.
Mitt went on to say, “There’s going to be some that want to talk about high school. Well, if you really think that’s important, be my guest.”
Thank you Mr. Romney, I think I will. I think I will talk about this because unfortunately we don’t seem to have solved the problem yet. Bullying is alive and well today and it is just as inexcusable today as it was 48 years ago. You can send your wife out to the media to laugh about your “wild and crazy” high school years but I wonder how the two of you would have reacted if one of your sons had done that that had been done to one of your sons. Wild and crazy? Yes, actually. It was. And it’s even more wild and crazy today that anyone would want to honor you with the highest office in the land. Mitt was the son of a Governor… born into a privileged life. You can’t tell me he didn’t know any better.
Mitt and a group of his friends threw a younger boy to the ground and hacked off his hair while he cried and screamed for help. The younger student was believed to be a little light in his loafers by the way, but Mitt now claims that he didn’t know he was gay. As if that really matters.
Mitt led the charge and did the actual hair cutting. Maybe I am overreacting here, but I think he just might not deserve to be that one person out of 300 million to be President. Believe it or not, lots and lots of people go through their entire school career and never dip another person’s hair in ink or physically abuse another student.
I have said before, I come from a generation that doesn’t really talk much about gay people. I remember thinking that a perfectly lovely word had been ruined. Today, however I say, “Gay marriage?” Why not? Everyone should be allowed to be with the one they love. I honestly don’t understand what all the hoopla is about. If you don’t agree with gay marriage then don’t marry a man who dresses like Rick Santorum or has hair like Mitt Romney. If you don’t like gay people simply ignore them. They probably don’t like you either. If an octogenarian from Georgia can see that, why can’t privileged politicians?
Margaret, I really don’t think this is about being gay or the sanctity of marriage. I think this is about common decency and what we should expect from that one person in 300 million who becomes President. I’ll be the first to admit that I would not make a good president. If ever an example of who not to elect there was, I certainly fit the bill. But let’s slow down for just a second here. He gathered a group of students. They tackled a younger student and while that student cried and screamed for help, Mitt Romney, the assumed Republican nominee for President, cut off his hair because he didn’t like the way he looked. Does it matter if that student was gay? Would it be worse if he was black? How about if that student were a woman? I don’t give a rat’s ass if that student were all three. One in three hundred million. One.
Maybe I am old school, as they say, but I really don’t think that one is forgettable much less forgivable when you want to become President.
No one is perfect. But surely we can elect someone more perfect than that. I mean it really.
MARGARET:
Helen, dear, I think this all has to do with the length of time little Mitt was allowed to breast feed. Or maybe he’s just a asshat. Probably the latter, dear.
[...] for Mitt’s record – he was a bully in high school and got pretty upset when his father wasn’t elected President. At the age of 46 he was [...]
By: Herman and Eddie Munster were better when they were in Black and White « Margaret and Helen on October 19, 2012
at 12:59 AM
It is not your fault or your greatness. This is NOT ABOUT YOU. It is about his right to make his own decisions, and to respond to adverse conditions that make it unpleasant to live in the US. Get used to it; a lot are following suit. The socialists have never learned, and never will, that you can’t force people to act against their own best interest. You can of course keep them from moving, but then they quit working and you still lose.
They way to get the benefit from productive people is to make an environment where they want to be. Ref: pre-socialist America.
By: PFesser on October 10, 2012
at 11:38 AM
alaskapi
Yes it is called a mistake, we human women sometimes do that. By your reaction this is apparently as major issue so to the host I apologize for clicking the wrong link. Maybe a few deep breaths and some time away from the blog will get you some perspective alaskapi, didn’t think it was THAT big of a deal.
By: Melinda on July 2, 2012
at 11:18 AM
For crying out loud Melinda- what are you doing on this old thread?
you want to tell people something or tell em off or whatever, come on over to the current thread. Our hostesses are quite nice about letting us shoot off our virtual mouths, whatever our views are, but getting lost or dropping stink bombs in old threads might strain the situation some.
By: alaskapi on July 1, 2012
at 7:57 PM
“You may think it is a shame that people get all testy and cantankerous when you make statements that suggest you want to take away their rights, but that is just how it is. This isn’t about your belief that zygotes are children, it is about your obvious intent to impose that belief on others who do not share it.”
You like want to impose a death sentence upon the unborn child? My way inconveniences you for 9 months. You way takes away everything that child will ever have, forever. Again the problem is you cannot allow any compromise, any discussion. To bring up the subject offense. You create an argument where to find common ground infringes upon your rights. I find it hypocritical that you are so concerned about your rights, that you give the unborn child’s rights no consideration at all.
I am not hurt or offended. I am simply pointing out that you are incapable of reasoned discussion. I am pointing out that you are bigoted against anyone who doesn’t think as you do. You do not allow for it, while I welcome it. That is our defining difference.
Iris, you are mischaracterizing what I said. I cannot have common ground with people who cannot have a discussion on the issue. As I stated above, the fact most of you feel your rights are infringed upon just by it being brought up. Also the fact that you decide that the unborn child has no rights, and you have no room to allow for discussion on this as well. The only possible outcome you will except is that the child gets no consideration whatsoever. This is why we have no common ground.
As for being called a murderer, sorry if the definition fits. You take a life, and you end it. We have had children born in the 5th month survive. Yet you all insist on the right to take children even in the 8th and 9th month and end their life. This is the very definition of murder. You may not like this, but facts are facts.
By: Melinda on July 1, 2012
at 5:50 PM
I am not very excellent with English but I get hold this rattling easygoing to understand .
By: losing weight quickly on June 26, 2012
at 9:26 AM
Thank you Farsight. I do care, which is why I posted my statement that I have never been anyone but Backgammon on this, or any other site.
We obviously have different views,which is what makes for debate, and not being a sheep. Trust you had a wonderful Memorial weekend.
By: Backgammon on May 29, 2012
at 9:38 AM
Backgammon, sorry if I have misjudged you. If you were to take the time to go back over the last year+ (don’t really expect you to), you would understand my distrust of the timing of your arrival. Anon/Noah/nagic has reincarnated himself so many times that there is a reason posters herein refer to him as the Hydra. One of his MOs is to have 2-3 identities going at the same time in order to bolster an argument. At the same time in recent history, he has bragged about this behavior on Rutherford’s site.
As I said, I am sorry IF I misjudged you. However, just because you say you are not the hydra in no way makes me gullible enough to unquestioningly accept the proclamation. As before, time will tell. If you are not the hydra, I would be surprised if you even gave a rat’s ass about all this. Nor would I expect if of you…
By: farsight Δ on May 29, 2012
at 12:09 AM
I am sending a check to Diane Tran: She is an amazing girl who deserves support – not jail and a criminal record. I hope the judge resigns.
Got this info from Juanita Jean comment section.
Ms. Diane Tran
c/o The Vineyards of Waverly Manor
1961FM 1375 Rd.E
Huntsville TX 77340
Sent a check and perhaps you will too.
http://juanitajean.com/2012/05/27/do-like-mitt-said-if-you-dont-have-20000-to-start-your-business-borrow-it-from-your-dad/comment-page-1/#comment-26034
By: JuneauJoe on May 28, 2012
at 12:04 PM
Was certain the Diane Tren case would end up here! Thank goodness. This is a case of child abuse/abandonment inasmuch as she and her two younger siblings are under 18. She has a totally heroic perspective of “family”. By supporting the younger ones, she was hoping to keep them out of the foster system. What happened to them when she was in the slammer for a night? The judge in this case had the option of referring the whole thing to family court and issuing warrents against the absent parents. Instead he victimizes the victim all over again. Oh, well! Considering where all this took place, Diane is lucky she didn’t get capital punishment. That damn truancy law was aimed at kids in a whole lot different situations, such as on-site parents who didn’t give a damn or weren’t able to control the kids. I did sign a petition in Diane’s favor. Helen, is there any way you could adopt her and the younger sibs?
By: mageen in old virginny on May 28, 2012
at 9:31 AM
Ouch–I, who really tries to check things out, sure was willing to believe what Frankie Schaeffer had to say because it validated what I was predisposed to believe. Will look more closely. Thanks.
By: Donna on May 27, 2012
at 9:32 PM
This is so sad. A 17 year old honor student, has to work 2 jobs to support herself, a younger sibling and a brother in college. She gets a criminal record for missing school because she is exhausted. The judge is a Republican – such a caring and thoughtful fellow. So sad that he would do this.
http://juanitajean.com/2012/05/27/do-like-mitt-said-if-you-dont-have-20000-to-start-your-business-borrow-it-from-your-dad/
By: JuneauJoe on May 27, 2012
at 5:23 PM
Interesting. I guess you do realize Frankie Schaeffer has also been debunked as a fraud by many if not most of father’s friends, acquaintances and his own mother? Frankie Schaeffer is in my book about as credible as Ronnie Reagan Jr talking about his old man. Frankie wouldn’t even qualify as prodigal son.
And I think George Soros provides the perfect caricature of the James Bond villain. I can practically hear him saying in the private of Barack Obama’s company, “No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!!!! Buwahahahahaahaha”
I don’t think Soros is evil – I know he is evil and for all intents and purposes communist thug. And that is the surrogate leader of your party, because he provides the bling necessary. The world will be better when Soros passes.
I hope you do realize or someday will realize the Evangelicals minus Palin who you listed are more characters of the media than they are leaders of Evangelical Christianity. I consider those listed pretty much the fringe – they provide a convenient caricature on TV of how buffoonish a humanist media would like to project Evangelicals. Palin is a different case in that she’s first and foremost a pol. Pfesser and I have had these conversations before, and I assured him as I will assure you that as an Evangelical of many years, I held my breath every time Jerry Falwell or Pat Roberson came on TV, praying they didn’t say something else stupid I would be forced to defend. Cringe worthy, especially after 9/11 when I finally had enough and publicly lambasted them on their own websites telling them I thought they were a disgrace and certainly no asset to the cause.
Tend to your garden and I will tend to mine after I clean the windows.
Talk to you later and best to you and yours.
By: Tex Taylor Rides Herd Again™ on May 27, 2012
at 1:23 PM
and thank you for the compliment. Likewise.
By: Donna on May 27, 2012
at 11:07 AM
Tex: Glad to respond but announce in advance that this contains irrational and emotional elements. I am ok as a Jew with Obama but not for the reasons you might think. One of the first times in my adult life that I have ever felt imminently threatened was when McCain picked Sarah Palin as a running mate. Her acknowledged religious affiliations are ones that believe that anyone other than Christians are “doomed” to damnation. They also claim to support Israel but it is in the context of a belief system that includes the notion that it will be part of the end times, and the destruction of Jews. So my reaction to her was one of visceral fear.
Actually, maybe it’s more accurate to say that I am less uncomfortable with Obama because I don’t see him lining up with a world view that views me and mine as of lesser value in an absolute sense. He may not be a “friend” to Israel, but there are others whose “friendship” I don’t want. I know where he stands and can live with that. And I can tell you with absolute certainty that I’m not alone as a Jew in this reaction. Jews didn’t run from McCain or towards Obama–Jews ran like hell from Sarah Palin. You have a Jew watch those videos of her being blessed by the African witch doctor and you have one scared Jew.
Now I grew up in the southeast. I have friends who are evangelical Christians. They are some of the best people I know and I’m lucky to have them in my life. But the theology is threatening. And the overlap of the theology with politics is very threatening. Again, I’m the first to admit when I’m operating out of emotion, not reason. But I tend to buy a lot of what Frankie Schaeffer says about the certain aspects of the evangelical movement.
As for Soros, he has many horrible flaws and has done many things with which I vehemently disagree. But I don’t think it’s accurate to call him a Nazi sympathizer and the story about him (at 14) being a “collaborator” has been pretty much debunked. Is he worse than Falwell was? I happen to view Falwell as a charlatan of the first order. What about Baker? Or Swaggert? Or Robertson? Or Fischer?
OK–the Greek columns were ridiculous. Laughable. Puerile. Hold your nose-ish. Groan-worthy. And the speeches may pander and be manipulative–but so were the ones at the Republican convention. Again, at bottom, I can’t think of a politician that I trust or admire. I’m closer to the ideals that the Democrats espouse than to those that the Republicans do. I’d rather listen to a Bryan Schweitzer than a Rudy Guiliani. And sometimes it comes down to that.
Garden beckons.
By: Donna on May 27, 2012
at 11:03 AM
“If Obama were as radical as they claim, here’s what he would have already done: Pulled the troops out of Afghanistan, given us ‘Medicare for all,’ ended the drug war, cut the defense budget in half, and turned Dick Cheney over to the Hague.”
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“If he’s a socialist, he’s a lousy one”
PEACE ~ Δ
By: Whirled Peas Δ on May 27, 2012
at 10:52 AM
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“Bullies are people, too!”
Read the whole week.
PEACE ~ Δ
By: Whirled Peas Δ on May 27, 2012
at 10:36 AM
Donna, I find it hard to believe as a Jew, you could find any favor in Barack Obama. He clearly is no friend to Israel. But then I never did understand that relationship to begin with. Worse, I am utterly amazed at what you just said about a Nazi sympathizer like George Soros – a convicted felon who is clearly a disciple of Marxism with ill intent. I would be curious who these “Evangelicals” are that you equate.
But if you find no difference in landing a deck carrier to celebrate a victory of sorts deposing of Saddam (which by the way, the troops adored), to standing in front of Styrofoam columns spouting platitudes that can’t possibly be kept with clear delusions of divinity feigning control of the physical universe, then I can better understand why we are polar opposites.
I’ll tell you the words that came to mind as I watched Barack Obama from his temple – no pun intended – The Abomination of Desolation. That was about a cultish display as I’ve witnessed in my lifetime, and certainly here in America. I knew then we had crossed the Rubicon as a country.
Nonetheless, I still find you a step above fray here for what it is worth. At least you’re interesting, intelligent and have original thought. Many of these folks literally remind me of ‘Dear Leader’ material. That’s the honest truth.
By: Tex Taylor Rides Herd Again™ on May 27, 2012
at 10:09 AM
And when I say “evangelicals,” I am not basing my view on the religious beliefs but on the actions that some (not all) evangelical leaders have taken.
By: Donna on May 27, 2012
at 9:37 AM
Tex: I agree with you that the President is a narcissist. I can’t think of any President during my lifetime that I don’t consider a narcissist, or any candidate for the office (Ralph Nader? Ross Perot?). Congress is packed with narcissists of both parties and some that switch alliances for the purpose of being voted back in.
But I’m not sure that George Soros is more “evil” than his counterparts on the right. Or that Ayers is any worse than some of the evangelicals that Republican candidates have courted and been influenced by. Or that Greek columns are sillier than the flight suit and the “Mission Accomplished” banner or some of the Reagan rhetoric.
You see no core in Obama. I see no core in Romney. But then I see no core in pretty much any politician, including those of the party that more closely resembles my views. Currently reading the latest volume in the Robert Caro book about LBJ–you want to talk about a bumper crop of awfulness?
By: Donna on May 27, 2012
at 9:35 AM
Mitt RomneyBarack Hussein is a classic sociopath and malignant narcissist. The perpetual, charming, plastic smile. The shiny but soulless eyes. The willingness to brush off his own sadism with the wave of a hand…A man so full of himself, he thought it necessary to pen not one, but two autobiographies of himself before he reached the age of 40 assisted by an avowed domestic terrorist – practically unknown outside his circle of influence.
A man with such delusions of grandeur he announced in front of Greek Columns as in temple on high, “”This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet begin to heal.”
There is absolutely no core to Barack Obama besides self. A Muslim in a mosque; black liberal theology of choice when politically expedient; Evangelical Christian in the black Baptist Churches of Alabama; secular humanist in the crowds of Hollywood, making accusation of bitter clingers. A consummate politician and narcissist by choice, groomed from an early age by true evil like George Soros.
And you want to criticize Mitt Romney as a sociopath?
Truly, you folk are so deluded, that it can be defined as nothing short of madness. I continue to confidently state that statist progressivism is clearly a mental illness and personally destructive.
By: Tex Taylor Rides Herd Again™ on May 27, 2012
at 9:27 AM
“This country is based on the fantasy that the government is the voice of the people. Going thru the motions of voting…is central to our culture.”
PEACE ~ Δ
By: Whirled Peas Δ on May 27, 2012
at 9:23 AM
Mitt Romney is a classic sociopath. The perpetual, charming, plastic smile. The shiny but soulless eyes. The willingness to brush off his own sadism with the wave of a hand…
Yeah. Let’s remind the world why everyone thinks Americans are insane by putting this guy in the White House.
By: Kim L Short on May 27, 2012
at 8:28 AM
Actually, Tex–the only times I mention things like grammar, spelling, or punctuation is when someone is particularly officious and condescending. Otherwise, I don’t even notice.
I’m pretty critical of all politicians and dubious about all policies. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to go into politics and trust nobody who does. And I am cursed, partly by nature and partly by 30-plus years of doing what I do, by different sides of any story. I tend to push back at blanket statements about anything. (other than the sovereignty of Israel–my views about which you have correctly predicted).
Enjoy your Sunday.
By: Donna on May 27, 2012
at 8:02 AM
A weak stab at humor to gig you. You may have many frailties. But the common theme of M&H inanity is not one.
They could use a few more like you with ability to intelligently engage and think critically, even if we do disagree. It certainly would raise the leftist mean IQ about 40 points if you were cloned.
If we are to be scorched for grammar, punctuation, even the occasional spelling boo boo, I wouldn’t be allowed to post as I practically ignore all three.
Have a nice remaining weekend.
By: Tex Taylor Rides Herd Again™ on May 26, 2012
at 11:54 PM
I am laughing, Tex–I had that reaction, second guessed myself, and thought maybe it was equally correct. But you are right. Have a safe weekend, yourself.
By: Donna on May 26, 2012
at 9:08 PM
When used in that matter, it’s referred by voting “bloc.”
Have a safe Memorial Weekend, Donna.
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Cynthia, Lurker, J. Joe Bob? Anyone? The silence has been deafening.
I’ve been waiting three days and not one lib has taken a stab at my argument your ‘Nutting’ article and his claims of Obama austerity is a crock on every level, and Obama is without question, the biggest spender by far to ever reside in the White House.
Hopefully, we’ve put that argument to rest and you M&H plebes can move on to the next bald faced lie to contest. I’ll consider the claim busted, unless I hear otherwise.
By: Tex Taylor Rides Herd Again™ on May 26, 2012
at 9:04 PM
well- we had poor old Joe using other people’s work computers to vote for himself multiple times in the attempt to advance himself within his party… amongst all the other idiot things he has done
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/stress-lies-and-politics-tainted-joe-millers-borough-job-records-show
and now he’s trying to reinvent himself as mr clean elections himself
By: alaskapi on May 26, 2012
at 9:03 PM