Margaret, I guess if you get enough morons congregating in one particular geographical area, eventually they will vote a fellow moron to represent them in Congress. Kind of like sleeping with your cousin – eventually your offspring are not going to be right in the head. But the idiot parade coming out of South Carolina seems to be getting longer and longer these days.
From where I sit Republican Congressman Joe Wilson’s heckling of the President puts him pretty far down on the moron food chain in South Carolina - well below Miss Teen Lauren Caitlin Upton, but only slightly above Governor Mark Sanford. Which isn’t saying much considering all of them are behind the Osprey, northern pike, perch, bleak, shrimp and plankton. For those of you in South Carolina that is just a fancy way of saying they aren’t worth a pile of shit in my book – except for that little Lauren Caitlin Upton. She couldn’t help herself the poor dear. Everyone knows you can’t be a carnivore and still fit in your pageant dress.
Folks, let me tell you something about healthcare and health insurance. There are a couple of ways to make a buck in the game. One way is to systematically deny coverage to anyone with a propensity to get sick as evidenced by past occurrences. The other way is to spread the risk over the largest population possible effectively minimizing the impact of the most risky. But there is one way for sure to lose a buck – keep increasing the number of people who can’t pay their bill. It’s really quite simple. A public option means insurance companies will report profits using language like “impressive” and “satisfactory” rather than “awesome” and ”a buttload of moolah!”
When exactly did we become so enamoured with health insurance companies that we are now so adamantly fighting for their rights to make a buck off our misfortunes? None of this makes any sense to me. The President wants to make a speech encouraging our children to stay in school and study hard and we compare that to Nazi Germany. Doctors talking to patients about feeding tubes and life support machines has become some secret plot to kill Grandma. Making sure a woman can get treatment for her breast cancer is unreasonable. I don’t know Margaret. What’s next? Governor Perry and Governor Sanford fight to see which state secedes from the Union first- Texas or South Carolina? If only…
Someone needs to remind Representative Wilson that he and his family currently have a public option for their health insurance. And while you’re reminding him of that, be sure he understands that the next time his doctor has a finger up his butt all of us taxpayers footed the bill. Come to think of it, maybe instead of paying the bill we can skip the finger and just introduce his ass to my foot. I mean it. Really.
PS. Did anyone else notice the look Nancy Pelosi gave to Joe Wilson when he acted out? Now there is a lady I would enjoy having over for coffee and pie.
Helen: I hope your husband continues his recovery.
I sympathize with having to listen to Fox all the time. I’m staying with my Dad for awhile and that’s his preferred channel; we compromise with the Weather Channel.
Having to listen to Fox all the time will drive you batty and drive up your blood pressure. You don’t need that.
By: talea on November 1, 2009
at 2:09 PM
happyconservative I am sure Jimmy Carter and many other presidents have read the bible. Some of the most evil people know the bible better than most who claim to be Christian. It is more important to see how the principles are put into use. Are they using it for good or evil. Look to the fruits of these people. You and I can read the same bible and still not get the same knowledge or wisdom. God imparts hidden wisdom to those who are true to Him. You should read 1st Corinthians chapter 2 starting with verse 6, for a better perspective on this. I don’t recall Jimmy Carter using the word of God to perpetrate war. Do you see any good fruit from either of the Bush presidencies? I’m not a big Carter fan, but I certainly see more good fruit in his life.
By: Poolman on September 27, 2009
at 8:29 PM
So what, Happy?
The Bible, the greatest fable ever told. Most “Christians” I have come in personal contact these days are the biggest haters I have ever encountered in my entire life. Let us remember that religion is man-made, as in male-made. (I was raised Catholic.)
You never even acknowledged the reality of rampant racism in today’s world, preferring to listen to Ed Rollins gloss over it.
And Craig, wow, how “librul” of you to date a Jewish girl (not sure why one would point this out??) in the 70′s, what the hell does this have to do with today’s world? Bon soir, both of you should go have fun on the FUX News site where you belong.
By: Claire on September 26, 2009
at 2:12 AM
So what, Poolman? Jimmy Carter read his bible every day.
By: happyconservative on September 24, 2009
at 7:30 PM
Oh Helen, this is such a great post! I did notice the look Nancy Pelosi gave Mr. Wilson…(wasn’t that the guy on Dennis the Menace?)
But, when Nancy spoke about how the careless language being thrown about, will be misunderstood and possibly acted on by someone less “bright” than the one spewing the idiocy, suddenly the Right started saying “Pelosi cries because of the critics.”
I couldn’t believe what I read…they just take everything and twist it to fit their perverted thinking…she was telling of the killing of the two politicians in San Francisco, and how she was one who found Harvy Milk’s body…and she was trying to tell the radicals to tone it down before something else just as evil happened…
These right-wingers ARE scary-Really!
They don’t SCARE me-they are scary!
By: amethystlady2 on September 20, 2009
at 4:13 PM
Guess what, y’all, it ain’t just Atlanta!
By: ccmalloy on September 19, 2009
at 9:00 AM
Claire
I had visited Atlanta for my first and only time in August of 1973. I posted the following on another thread last night. I would hope Atlanta and or Georgia has moved beyond what I saw and experienced since then.
Speaking of…I once saw the X governor of Georgia…1973
Lester Maddox flanked by two state troopers in underground Atlanta signing pick handles
commemorating his defense of blacks who wanted to enter his restaurant.
That same day driving around downtown Atlanta,
appeared 3 NAZI’s on a street corner with Jack boots and the whole attire. I had my boss drive around the block so I could pick up their newspaper.
At the time I was dating a young Jewish lady.
The papers were completely full of cartoons and Socialist propaganda. And of course targeting blacks and Jews.
I guess what amazed me most is this was 1973 in downtown Atlanta. I was 22 and shocked that this was still in the open and going on in Atlanta much less..anywhere in the United States.
By: Craig on September 18, 2009
at 1:13 PM
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20926383/detail.html?taf=atl
Nope. No racism exists these days….
By: Claire on September 18, 2009
at 10:21 AM
Happy, I live in a northern suburb of Atlanta GA and have heard President Obama being called the “N” word MANY times firsthand by Faux News watchers at one of our local pubs (who mostly did NOT VOTE). Nice theory, Ed Rollins, but racism truly does exist and sadly, is even rampant in some areas.
By: Claire on September 18, 2009
at 9:11 AM
Oh Jimmy.
Keep yer dam mouth shut son.
The first and only President I voted for.
A graduate of the Naval Academy.
What a mistake.
Whatever he touched turned to crappola.
Interest rates up the wazoo.
A alchi brother he could not control as well as the lust in his heart.
Then he turned his backs on our people in Iran and mounted a half hearted rescue attempt.
Ross Perot got his people out..and I’m proud to say I worked for that man. EDS, An organization that made sure its people were taken care of.
And in 1980, I had the privilege to write the screenplay so as to keep the true accurate details of the escape a secret.
By: Craig on September 17, 2009
at 9:56 PM
happyconservative, re Bush being persuaded by his beliefs, don’t you remember when these were revealed?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/05/rumsfelds_bibleverse_briefings.html
By: Poolman on September 17, 2009
at 9:00 PM
Poolman,
I hear what you’re saying about the whole Christian/war thing. I don’t claim to be as good a Christian as I should be, and I’ve never thought of the issue much. I know that the Israelites fought a lot of battles in the bible. My main concerns have been 1) is the cause in our national interest, and 2) are our troops going to be wasted. You and I will probably disagree on those points where the current conflict is concerned, so I won’t go into it any further. I am going to check out Acts, and look through my bible more before I comment any further. Thanks for the reference.
Please rest assured that those of us on the “other” side of the aisle don’t think all Muslims are evil; just the ones that have attacked or want to attack us. The radical jihadis have to be dealt with. Even moderate Muslim governments like the Egyptians are threatened by them.
On the subject of President Bush. I don’t believe that he thought his actions were dictated by his religious beliefs. He was a religious man, which I personally take as a good thing. But, I don’t think his religious beliefs influenced his actions any more or less than any other President.
Anyway, the sunshine in my day has arrived home from work, and there’s a glass of Port calling my name. Time for me to go. Good night to all, and have great day, tomorrow.
By: happyconservative on September 17, 2009
at 7:26 PM
Jean,
Thanks for including me! Even if I’m not part of the gang, yet, at least I’m on the salutaion. We’re makin’ progress!!!
By: happyconservative on September 17, 2009
at 7:14 PM
I think President Jimmy Carter’s comment that opposition to President Obama’s policies is based on race are just wrong. He totally missed the mark on this. I’m not the only one who thinks so. Here is a link to a commentary by Ed Rollins. He puts President Carter’s comment in the wider context of the issues at hand. I think Ed got it.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/17/rollins.obama.tv.health/index.html?iref=newssearch
By: happyconservative on September 17, 2009
at 7:06 PM
Poolman,
Thanks for the links. Just a word of advise, though. I wouldn’t rely on Wikipedia. They have no quality control and no fact checking. You don’t have to have any qualifications or experience to post there. Anybody can post anything. I know people who post goofy pictures and obviously inaccurate inforamtion just to joke around
By: happyconservative on September 17, 2009
at 6:57 PM
PalinShutUp,
He never said “boy”. Please stop reading things that aren’t there.
By: happyconservative on September 17, 2009
at 6:53 PM
Lori,
I read the article in the Ft. Worth Star Telegram. They had the same info about lower malpractice premiums and the increase in the number of doctors. Here’s an excerpt.
Roughly half as many malpractice suits are being filed in Texas these days. Liability premiums, which had doubled before reform, have declined more than 30 percent.
And most important, Texas has become a beacon to new doctors. Last year, 3,621 newly licensed
Here’s the link to the whole article.
http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/1607549.html
Tort reform isn’t a silver bullet, and I don’t think there is one. But, as stated in the article, it did what it was supposed to do. I still think that it is effective and should be included in an overall plan for healthcare reform.
Healthcare reform is a big, complicated issue. It took us a long time to get where we are, and we’re not going to “fix” it over night or with one bill. It’s going to have to happen a step at a time; just the way we got here.
Thanks for the info.
By: happyconservative on September 17, 2009
at 6:37 PM
HoneyJoRumples,
“It has nothing to do with the color of his skin, but with the problems we perceive in his policies. Why then, are we labeled Racist?”
HJR, where did this “quote” come from?
Here’s what I wrote. Could you start, again, please. Thansk.
1. Since the issue of race has been raised so often on the blog, today, let me ask you all a question. As you can tell from my screen name, I am very conservative in my view points. I have to confess that race isn’t something I or any of the people that I associate with really think about. At least it never comes up or seems to be an issue.
Just to clear the air, the people that I work and hang out with are Asian, Hindi, Muslim, and African American. My best friend is Asian from Singapore and used to be my boss. We don’t always agree we always enjoy discussing things. My current boss is an African American woman. My best friend at work is Hindi. As you have probably guessed by now, I’m an old white guy, and I live in the Dallas, Texas area; an area of the country that I find cosmopolitan.
When we discuss things (football, politics, or anything else) we sometimes agree and sometimes disagree, but it’s all based on the facts at hand. It’s the same when we disagree with the President. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin, but with the problems we perceive in his policies. Why then, are we labeled Racist?
I understand that some people feel like their skin color is a road block of some kind, but I don’t understand that, either. Some people will discount you, deny you work, or otherwise try to limit you for something as simple as the type of cloths you wear or the school you attended (or didn’t attend). I’ve been denied jobs because I looked the interviewer in the eye too much. JNQ-T had it right. There are a lot of idiots out there, regardless of which side of the aisle you’re on.
I think that I will probably be put the Troll bin for what I’m about to ask, but I think it’s a fair question that needs to be asked. Race is not something that those of us on the Right obsess over. We just don’t think about. It’s certainly not a factor in our decision making, and we get tired of it being used as a club against us (and an unjust one at that).
To our way of thinking … no, I’ll speak for my self, here. To my way of thinking, it’s the Left that promotes racism. How? By emphasizing it in everything you do. It seems like every decision, every policy, every perception you have of the world is viewed through the lens of race. Why is that? I just don’t understand that way of thinking. Every time you favor one group over another because of the color of their skin, you promote racism. Aren’t we supposed to be past that?
So, please explain this to me. I look forward to hearing your comments.
By: happyconservative on September 17, 2009
at 6:22 PM
another thing most 9/11 conspiracy theorists omit is the previous attempt, years before….
on that note, I hope the 9/11 conspiracy discussion remains on this side
and craig, you compared and called Obama ‘Fuhrer, Hitler…’
you have to do better than that
By: PalinShutUp on September 17, 2009
at 1:21 PM
Claire–it’s not worth it. He’s a sad, foolish person who adds nothing to the discourse. There are many others who are conservative in their outlook on one or more issues who actually have their own thoughts and can express them constructively. They have been made very welcome. If Matthew doesn’t block him, I’m simply going to scroll past him and hope that others resist the temptation to engage. At some point, he’ll give up if nobody is paying attention.
By: Donna on September 17, 2009
at 10:01 AM
An opinion based on facts, not simply parroting FAUX rhetoric would be welcome. Your last post was the only original thought I have seen that has come from you.
By: Claire on September 17, 2009
at 9:56 AM
Donna,… I take exception to the statement that I equated political disagreement to the Holocaust. I did not. I believe I stated that if political discourse gets any more rampant and threatening as it was when someone suggested taking out the “republicans” and give them a good thrashing” or something close to that… then something like “crystal Night” could occur again.
I did say that threatening comments could be the next step to something happening.
I never condoned or promoted killings and or slaughters of any kind. You have harped on this for way to long.
And Donna, I apologized log ago for my entry comment into this blog site.
I reiterate. The author promotes herself pictured in a handicapped vehicle. Her blog was Pro left in thought. I voiced my belief that it will be a long time before we are to pay off our nations debt.
I also said some other things Donna. being disrespectful..no Donna, I don’t think I was.
I merely made an observation and a comment and YOU got your “panties”, Can I say that?…in a wad.
But after being on and reading this web for the past two weeks, I have read many more derogatory statements about a lot of people I respect..and I have not condemned those people
and cried for their being blocked.
At this five minutes, I believe the author herself has read what I have said..and it being her blog site would have banished me long ago if she had so wished.
Now as to being thrown off the blog. For what reason? Because I don’t parrot your beliefs?
I have not used the foul language that you have instigated, such as calling me a “prick” or an “asshole”.
Oh what terms I could have used to react to this chastisement. But then I would have lowered myself to your level.
In fact I thought that your language was more appropriate for being dismissed and banned from the blog. I read the rules, and I’m not sure, but your demeanor certainly lacks taste and civility.
I did not stoop to calling people names.
Every now and then, the author and others call out Bullshit when they are so inclined. Thats a statement used on this blog many times to describe their displeasure with someone else’s beliefs or comments.
Donna and Claire, what you want is a blog where you are not questioned about your facts and beliefs as well as having to sift thru someone else’s statements when they do not conform to your doctrine.
I believe the author and or owner of this blog set it up to bring civil discourse about todays world and the nation we live in.
Donna, to ratchet up your mob or herd mentality is to cheapen the blog by desiring Matthew to block my ability to come here and say BULLSHIT back at ya. And I believe thats a first for me.
Donna and Claire and all others on this blog.
I do not know any of you. Some of you may actually be neighbors and personally see each other. For some this blog site may just be a place where you can state your case.
I DO NOT harbor any Hate that some are trying to promote against me. I don’t know you..any of you. Some are here under fictitious names so as to conceal their identity and or at least have one.
I DO NOT chastise anyone of you for your religious or political belief.
I WOULD only like to offer my viewpoint on subjects whether it be the weather or what is to become of our country with all the problems we have currently.
And yes, MY comments may differ from YOURS.
What is wrong with that?
By: Craig on September 17, 2009
at 9:51 AM
I second Donna’s motion.
And please bounce “Kenye” while you’re at it.
Claire
By: Claire on September 17, 2009
at 8:18 AM
In honor of Sept. 17, 1787, our country instituted Constitution Day.
Constitution comes from the Latin word of constitutum or constituere–meaning to cause to stand, to establish, to enact, to compose, and to form.
I had the great opportunity to study the Constitution at Montpelier, Virginia back in July of 2001. Twenty educators from Wash. State lived in colonial style “dorm” homes near the back of James Madison’s Montpelier plantation. Besides touring the mansion (which was being renovated at the time), we had long, daily lectures and discussions with a very entertaining professor.
I learned many things about the Constitution I had not fully understood before–but what impressed me the most was the idea of a “social contract”. The Latin roots of the word helped me to fully grasp, then at the age of 36, how each of us “breathes” this social contract every second of our lives as citizens. I truly realized it was a “living document”. It changed the way I teach about it to 5th graders.
Fastforward to April of 2009, and in a discussion about the 4th amendment in the Bill of Rights, a female student of mine said to me as we lined up for lunch–
“There’s just so much to think about, it seems like the world is going to collapse!”
That was the feedback I needed to know I had accomplished my goal.
By the way, I typed up the quote and it is taped on a wall near my desk.
Have a good Constitution Day everyone!
By: vgman on September 17, 2009
at 6:54 AM
I really do take exception to Craig being permitted to post. Put aside that he arrived on this blog insulting the hosts. Put aside that he has absolutely nothing of value to offer and merely parrots the Becks and Hannitys of the world. However, I remind you that this asshole actually equated political disagreement to the slaughter of Jews and the destruction of their businesses and synagogues–the worst, ugliest sort of hate crime. And his response to being called out on that was to whine that people here didn’t want to hear differing points of view. The guy is a complete prick and he cheapens the discourse on this blog.
I welcome someone like Happy Conservative who, while holding different viewpoints, is polite and pleasant. But why permit someone who engages in the nastiest sort of bigotry to participate? Isn’t that to tolerate completely unacceptable and destructive behavior?
I will not personally respond to any posts from Craig–so he can do his infantile “tick tock, tick tock” bullshit all he wants. But I truly hope that Matthew and other posters will say that this is one person (using the word loosely) who is not welcome here.
By: Donna on September 17, 2009
at 6:01 AM
Poolman, you are talking about building 7 right? The one that had no plane hit it, and it fell several hours later. No deaths or injuries were sustained from the collapse of that building right? That is also the building that housed some “government offices” if I am not mistaken.
I have to say out of all the 9/11 theories that one seems the most convincing to me. I can see a scenario where building 7 housed some “sensitive” government information, and considering the circumstances, were no longer secure, and hence we had to bring the building down.
The “BIG” 9/11 conspiracy theory doesn’t seem plausible to me. Since I have no engineering background and I can’t even read a blueprint, I have to rely on something much less sophisticated… My perception… In this case, it is the look on GWB’s face the minute Andy Card told him we were being “ATTACKED”. IMHO that look on his face was sheer horror and I bet he had to change his pants afterwards. That did not look to me to be the look of a man who planned the attacks, as some think. I have heard others say they thought that look on his face was something else, so I guess it’s all in the individual perception that then becomes their reality.
In any event I think it’s good for individuals to question the “offical” story that the government puts out…. Plus it’s kinda fun too isn’t it?
I was happy to hear that a bill came out of the Senate in such a timely manner.. Maybe now we can get to gettin a healthcare bill, that will lower the cost, insure ALL American’s, and not allow the insurance companies to drop or deny us coverage because we dare to get sick.. namaste’
By: lori on September 17, 2009
at 4:21 AM
Unless someone interviews the team who designed the engineering of the WTC towers we don’t know what structural qualities were designed into the towers, in any meaningful detail. We also don’t know the facts of the engineering that actually happened as opposed to what was on the blueprint.
As for latent energy of load, that’s another discussion altogether, but anybody who can follow some simple equations should read J.E. Gordon’s “Structures, or Why Things Don’t Fall Down”. Then consider what he writes about cracks, what they themselves will have observed about cracks in concrete and other rigid materials, and then lay off the conspiracy theories – because – you should pardon the pun – they don’t stand up.
Speculation, even informed speculation, remains speculation, not fact.
Part of the dumbing down of American thought is that people no longer recognise when an enquiry has actually reached a dead end for lack of factual material.
By: Katherine on September 17, 2009
at 2:13 AM
no one’s puppet, I’m going to start with this guy as he’s local. I’ll keep you posted.
Edward E. Knesl, civil and structural engineer, of Phoenix, Arizona, writes:
“We design and analyze buildings for the overturning stability to resist the lateral loads with the combination of the gravity loads. Any tall structure failure mode would be a fall over to its side. It is impossible that heavy steel columns could collapse at the fraction of the second within each story and subsequently at each floor below.
We do not know the phenomenon of the high rise building to disintegrate internally faster than the free fall of the debris coming down from the top.
The engineering science and the law of physics simply doesn’t know such possibility. Only very sophisticated controlled demolition can achieve such result, eliminating the natural dampening effect of the structural framing huge mass that should normally stop the partial collapse. The pancake theory is a fallacy, telling us that more and more energy would be generated to accelerate the collapse. Where would such energy would be coming from ?”
By: Poolman on September 16, 2009
at 10:19 PM
Craig. You bore us. That joke is old, old, old and tired like you.
By: Helium on September 16, 2009
at 10:09 PM
One final thought for the day……
The Balloonist
A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in a boat below.
She shouted to him, “Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don’t know where I am.”
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, “You’re in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
“She rolled her eyes and said, “You must be a Republican.”
“I am,” replied the man. “How did you know?”
“Well,” answered the balloonist, “everything you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your information, and I’m still lost. Frankly, you’ve not been much help to me.”
The man smiled and responded, “You must be an Obama Democrat.”
“I am,” replied the balloonist. “How did you know?”
“Well,” said the man, “you don’t know where you are or where you are going.
You’ve risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air.
You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem. You’re in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it’s my fault.”
By: Craig on September 16, 2009
at 9:17 PM