For those of you who actually read more than one article deep, you know that I was all ready to leave Sarah Palin behind a couple of weeks ago. But sometimes I don’t always do what I say – kind of the way Sarah said she was going back to do her job as governor. Wishful thinking on both our parts, I guess.
It seems that a lot of people are upset with me because I am being unfair to the Governor of Oil Land. They claim that I really don’t know her… that I only know the biased view of her as portrayed by the evil liberal media. Folks, I’ve got news for you. Katie Couric stuck a microphone in front of your favorite moose hunter and when she opened her mouth a whole lot of stupid came falling out. Seriously. Defend “You can see Russia from Alaska” when asked about national defense. It doesn’t matter on what channel or to what reporter you say that. It’s stupid on CBS and CNN and it’s stupid on Fox News. Of course “stupid on Fox News” is kind of redundant.
While there are many comments left here, some of you actually take the time to send letters to the email set up by my grandson. I do try to respond when I can. However, the email I have copied below needed a bit more than a response. I felt it needed a little dissecting for all to see. So here we go again…
RE: Sarah Palin Sit Down and Shut the Hell Up
This is a load of crap, and you have the nerve to call Gov. Palin a bitch, well look in the mirror.
Oh, by the way, Max Cleland, former head of the Veterans Administration, did not lose his limbs in battle, he was dumb enough to drop a grenade, then reach down to pick it up. Any basic trainee knows that you don’t do that. His own stupidity resulted in the loss of his limbs, and also put the men around him in danger.
As for Gov. Palin, why don’t you tell us your life’s accomplishments, so that we can stack them up against hers? She went from being a member of the town council, to mayor, to Governor of her state, and she did it all on her own, no help from a rich, politically connected family, and she did not ride her husbands coattails like Hillary did. She did it herself with hard work, grit and determination.
Yes, Georgia will get their first look at her, and the 4 rallies that she is taking part in will draw maximum capacity crowds at each venue, probably closs to 100,000 Georgians will be attending these events. She will be instrumental in handing obama his his defeat, and he hasn’t even taken office yet. Come 2010 when she campaigns nationwide on behalf of Republican candidates, she will be key to defeating a lot of democrats.
You are going to see and hear a lot from her over the next 4 years, probably longer, a lot longer, so you may as well get used to it. If you’re still around in 2012, you may even see her defeat obama for the presidency.
I believe the bitterness and hatred that spews forth from people such as yourself is due to the fact that you known your candidate didn’t do so well. With $700 million, and thousands of media cheerleaders, and millions of bloggers on his side, it still took a financial meltdown to pull him across the finish line. You also know that anger over the economy is what made people vote for him, not that they liked him, and anger is easily redirected once he and his Clinton era retreads can’t deliver on all the fancy promises he made.
Greg in Minnesota
Greg Dear, thanks for writing. When I looked in the mirror today I saw an old woman who needs to make an appointment at the beauty parlour. Thanks for reminding me to look. I sometimes forget. When Sarah Palin looked in the mirror I imagine she see saw a bitch. But that is just a guess on my part. She might not have looked.
As for Cleland’s service to his country. He lost three limbs while on combat duty in Vietnam. A little research will show you that Ann Coulter thinks he is just an idiot who blew himself up whilst on his way to have a beer with the boys. Now, if you ask me, the limbs Cleland lost were as important to him as any other limbs left on the battlefield by valiant soldiers. The exact details of how they were lost are probably only really important to someone who still has all his or her limbs. I am assuming, of course, that you, Dear Greg, have all of your limbs. I know Ann Coulter does because I often wish she would cross them when she sits.
But you have decided to provide only parts of the information. Cherry picking through information to support your cause seems to be a habit within the Republican party these days. When you and Ann Coulter do it, a brave soldier’s reputation is tarnished. When George Bush and Dick Cheney do it, thousands more soldiers are put in harms way, including my beautiful nephew. So Greg, here are some more of the details about Max Cleland’s time in Vietnam:
First of all, Cleland was wounded during the siege of Khe Sanh. Can you say that with me? Keee-Son.
Now that is all I really need to know, but because I too have all my limbs I feel the need to copy some more from the research I did:
He [Cleland] had less than a week earlier already earned commendations for heroism during some of the bloodiest combat of the whole Khe Sanh siege — combat missions for which he had volunteered, so as to relieve stranded Marines and Army infantry. The order in which the President awarded him the Silver Star reads:
“Captain Cleland distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous action on 4 April 1968, while serving as communications officer of the 2nd Battalion, 12th Calvary during an enemy attack near Khe Sanh, Republic of Vietnam. When the battalion command post came under a heavy enemy rocket and mortar attack, Capt. Cleland, disregarding his own safety, exposed himself to the rocket barrage as he left his covered position to administer first aid to his wounded comrades. He then assisted in moving the injured personnel to covered positions. Continuing to expose himself, Capt. Cleland organized his men into a work party to repair the battalion communications equipment, which had been damaged by enemy fire. His gallant action is in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflects great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army.”
But don’t worry Greg. I really can’t criticize you for making fun of a handicapped veteran. Afterall, I’ve written a blog making fun of a mentally handicapped governor of Alaska. By the way, I just looked in the mirror again…. Now I am beginning to see just a little bit of a bitch behind that messy hair of mine.
But let’s move on to your comments about Hillary Clinton. While I am indeed a fan of her husband, I actually think Hilary’s accomplishments are far greater. She, like many women, succeeded despite her husband’s coattails and not because of them.
But you do make a point about Governor Palin’s accomplishments. All on her own, she went from being a member of a town council, to mayor to governor of Alaska. In total, less than 200,000 Alaskans pulled a lever to get her all the way from the PTA to Governor. By comparison over 200,000 people have visited this blog of mine and I’m pretty sure my shit still stinks.
But Greg, I must say that I am particularly impressed with your ability to read the minds of millions of Americans who voted for Obama. That’s guite a talent. I wonder if you can read my mind right now. Wait a minute, I need to take off my glasses for a second to wipe away the tears…. Sorry about that folks, I was haivng one of those laughs… one of those hard laughs that brings tears to your eyes because that last part of Greg’s letter is just such a hoot – the part about Obama not really having done a good job getting elected.
A half black, half white man with the name Barack Hussein Obama just became President of the United States. He wasn’t even legally a United States citizen and doesn’t have any documentation whatsoever to prove that he was baptized or that he ever attended a single day in school. We are not sure he was actually ever born at all. He beat a war hero whose running mate was an amazing woman who went all of the way from the PTA in Wasilla to the Governor’s mansion in Juneau. And she has documentation proving that she attended five colleges before finally getting a BA in journalism. And on her baptismal record it actually states that she was chosen by God to drill in the area that is arguably one of God’s most beautiful creations to bring oil to the rest of the free world. You are so right Greg. What a lame accomplishment. Clearly that idiot from Alaska can do better. After all, Obama has all four limbs while Palin only has half a brain.
Now, I really hope to leave Palin behind with this article. But I think you all need to know why this is so important to me. Why, if I could, I would try to respond to all 58 million Americans who wanted to put her one heartbeat away from the greatest office in the land. Get ready because I think this soapbox just might be big even for someone of my size:
When you are a mother and a grandmother you take little things like war (or world peace), the environment and education seriously. Why? Because when you leave this world you want to know that you did everything possible to leave it a better place for your children and their children.
Eight years ago, we were preparing to enter the 21st Century stonger and more prosperous than ever before. The national debt was coming down along with the national crime rate and the unemlpoyment rate, while the rates of home ownership and college admissions were on the rise. There was even talk that maybe, just maybe peace in the Middle East might happen one day. We were finally beginning to understand the harm we were inflicting on the environment, but we knew what needed to be done to reverse that trend. Technological advances in medicine, communication, energy consumption… the future was bright. Our children’s future was bright. The greatest generation was preparing to leave this world a better place…
And then we screwed up. We elected an idiot to be President because we wanted to have a beer with him. Funny how we wanted to have a beer with someone who admitted to abusing alcohol until the age of 40. But hey, nothing about that election makes much sense. The popular vote went to the guy who wanted to end our dependency on fossil fuels, but the courts gave the election to the other guy – the guy who campaigned on restoring honor to the White House. If ever there was a time when we needed someone to govern to the middle – well that would have been the time.
But you all know how this played out. And if you have children and grandchildren… well damn it. We can’t make that mistake again. The cost is too high. And in my most humble of opinions, when you put a microphone in front of someone who wants to be President and a whole lot of stupid falls out of their mouth… Well, I no longer take that lightly because I now know that a whole lot of stupid can still be elected President if you’re not paying attention.
Thanks everyone. I promise to try and move off the Palin topic soon. I’ve just never been good at ignoring idiots. You see, in a country that offers you a free public education and free public libraries there is just no excuse for ignorance… except ignorance itself.
Please stop by again soon. I mean it.
Margaret and Helen 
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By: Malinda on July 22, 2014
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By: Piyush on December 16, 2012
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Hi gang and Colorful,
I thought I would respond to a number of your comments. You are obviously intelligent and express yourself well in English in your typing. I thank you for your prayers for us. We can all use all the help we can get from any quarter. You begin with the Lord’s Prayer but then go into some other language that few if any of us can understand. Perhaps in the same way that we don’t understand Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke. We cannot read it.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief just as I am. Someone once said, I don’t remember who, “To be kind is to be happy.” You have said some very unkind things to us but as the Lord’s Prayer says, “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us”. I think we can forgive you.
You enumerated our ‘sins’ such as homosexuality. What exactly did Jesus himself have to say about homosexuals, prostitutes and tax collectors? (I am an old broad, age 79, but not that old! I wasn’t around to personally hear his words over 2000 years ago.)
You are condemning us to hell unless we “repent”. I don’t think that is your job. That’s God’s job to judge who goes to heaven and who goes to hell, not yours.
I think most of us here are just your garden-variety sinners, a parking ticket here, losing our temper from time to time, etc. Didn’t Jesus lose his temper in the Temple about the ‘Money Changers’? He was human too. I don’t believe a merciful heavenly father would condemn anyone to hell for all eternity for those silly little sins.
As to killing babies. None of us condone killing babies. What we do STRONGLY OBJECT to is sending our children and grandchildren off to be killed in an unnecessary war about which we were lied to. OUR children and grandchildren were once OUR babies!!!!! And how about an AMERICAN missile that killed an Iraqi grandfather and blew both legs off his four-year old grandson? The grandson is now in the United States being fitted with prosthetic legs thanks to the generosity of SOME American people. Who is responsible for sending that missile?
I believe that Jesus had a sense of humor. Didn’t he say something about it being easier to put a camel through the eye of a needle that for a rich man to get into heaven? That analogy is pretty funny!!!!!
George Bush is a very rich man even if he does pray everyday. He has a multi acre ranch in Crawford, Texas and just moved into a multi-million dollar house in Dallas. I doubt if he has much of a mortgage on either of them or is in danger of being evicted.
I do not personally fear death. In my long life, three times, I looked death squarely in the face, said my prayers and waited calmly to see what happened. Twice back in the 1950’s in clunky old propeller driven aircraft. Fortunately, both times the planes were in the hands of competent professional pilots and they landed safely. I trusted them. ( We bellyed in with no landing gear. Out the window, I could watch SIX fire trucks racing along the runway to meet us IF and when we landed.) I have flown in modern planes hundreds of times since without incident.
The third time, I was 33 years old and had a ruptured Ectopic pregnancy. I was bleeding to death. The seven week old embryo was already dead. Again I was in the hands of competent professional medical personnel who knew exactly what was necessary to save my life. I trusted them. I said my prayers and calmly waited for the doctors to do their job. They did. The next year I successfully had our third son.
My Guardian Angel was working overtime then and still does! I also had family and friends who loved me and helped me through the rough times.
If we are human, we don’t look forward to death. I think we fear the PAIN OF DYING more than death itself if we have faith. No one wants to be hurting for a very long time.
So please come on in, sit down, have a cup of tea and some pie. We have a wide variety of pies made by some wonderful cooks here. Do you prefer fruit pies or cream pies? Let us get to know you. You are not alone anymore. We will be kind to you. I think we can help you come to grips with your fear of death, learn to express your love and enjoy the life God gave you.
Aloha!
Jean
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By: Jean on February 1, 2009
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By: I’m in love with this woman. « Doom’s World on January 24, 2009
at 2:34 AM
Thanks for putting Palin’s popularity in its true perspective. Her 80% approval rating in a state that has less than a million people doesn’t really make her very popular. Especially when you consider that most of the voters in Alaska are probably men that work in remote areas and then vote with the head that’s not on top of their neck. Yes, she’s attractive, but the rest of the country is mostly women and we know better than to vote for a woman who’s one bottle of peroxide away from being a Dumb Blonde.
You have a lot more readers than visitors to your blog. My octagenarian mother had only two sisters. Their names are Helen and Margaret, neither of them can carry on a meaningful conversation with her anymore. Reading your blog makes her feel closer to them. But the print is so small – even with the largest text size – that I copy it to a document and then blow it up and print it out so she and her friends can read it. Thanks for giving her a few laughs to look forward to every few days.
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By: Tina on December 14, 2008
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Greg, quit wacking off to Palin’s photo and pay attention: Sarah Palin will NOT be president, EVER! I can tell you absolutely, positively that America will not elect her or any other religious fundamentlist to lead our country again. However, Bush just admitted that he doesn’t believe the bible to be the word of god and that he doesn’t believe in Creationism. Well, ain’t that a hoot! He played you fools all along! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!! Hmmm, by admitting you don’t believe Adam and Eve was a true story, you are admitting that the original sin didn’t happen. If the original sin didn’t happen, then men/women aren’t condemned sinners. If we aren’t sinners, then what the hell did god send his “son” to die for us then? Hmmmm, I here the sounds of fundalmentalists’ heads exploding!
Getting back to my point:
If you think the effort to get Obama elected was impressive, the effort to relect Obama will LEAVE YOU SPEECHLESS AND CRYING FOR YEARS!!!! Your pathetic little party has been destroyed. You are left with religious nut jobs (Huckabee, Romney, Palin) vieing for the scraps. So bring that bitch on! We’ll take her down again. And it’ll be even more satisfying the second time.
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By: Steph on December 12, 2008
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Helen, you make it all make sense. I’ll never forget the shear horror in my mother’s eyes when the court selected this idiot. Although I too, was upset, I had no idea he would do THIS much damage. If McCain/Palin had won this time, I SERIOUSLY would have had to leave the country.
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By: TrueBlueCoondog on December 10, 2008
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Greg….you’re an idiot!
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By: Eyes Wide Open on December 10, 2008
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🙂
Oops, Mike, thanks for the heads up. Must be the remnants of jet lag affecting me still! You are dead right and Helen’s statement is thus accurate. Sorry, Helen.
😉
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By: Rui Semblano on December 9, 2008
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Absolutely a great post
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By: Mamie Jones on December 9, 2008
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Thank you!
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By: Vasilly on December 9, 2008
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That was an amazing post.
And Rui, right now, we’re almost to 2009. Eight years ago, when Bush was elected, it was November 2000. Right before Jan. 1st, 2001.
Hah! I’m a better pedant than you.
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By: Mike on December 8, 2008
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Dear Helen,
Don’t get me wrong, I love you and Margaret and most of what you two write but on this post you got one thing wrong that always gets on my nerves (smile): “Eight years ago, we were preparing to enter the 21st Century”…
Helen, the first day of the 21st century was January 1st 2001. The year 2000 was the 100th year of the 20th century and December 31st 2000 it’s last day.
Take care and keep up this excellent blog!
Merry Christmas!
Rui
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By: Rui Semblano on December 7, 2008
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Dear Elizabeth,
Regarding your thoughtful comments above, may I suggest that you drop the word ‘weird’ from your vocabulary. It definitely DOES NOT apply to you! I think you are quite an astute young woman.
I only studied math as far as Analytical Geometry and Trig, since my primary interests and life were in a different direction. In retrospect, I now realize that math studies are invaluable in developing a disciplined and analytical mind. We need all of those we can get!
Carry on and ace that test!
Aloha!
Jean
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By: Jean on December 7, 2008
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The tone of that fool’s letter said it all. These people aren’t patriots and they sure as hell aren’t gentlemen. Congrats on building a witty and insightful post around that reject’s bile.
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By: Max on December 7, 2008
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Helen, you are my hero.
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By: GrandmaYiaYia on December 7, 2008
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OH MY GAAAAAAAA..please keep writing. I just read the headline and collapsed in laughter to the point of tears and I couldn’t stop. My family started laughing not even knowing why and the cat left the room. Now that’s a laugh. My stomach hurts, my eyes are swollen and I need a cup of coffee. Thanks so much for that once a year, deep belly laugh. You are wonderful and treasured. hugs
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By: fets on December 7, 2008
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“Welcome to Florida where we now face the real possibility that Jeb the Rightful Heir Bush will run for the Senate seat being vacated by Mel Do-Nothing Martinez. Of course, when Jeb left the gubnor’s office, he handed the keys to George The Tanner Hamilton’s cousin, Charlie Crispy Crist. So it looks like political dynasties will continue. . .now we know what happened to the last royal family of Russia. . .they immigrated to Texas. . .”
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I have a lot of compassion for people living in Florida. I had no idea how screwed up your voting system is and how much voting fraud has occurred over the years until the 2000 election.
I was listening to Randi Rhodes at the time and her she was talking on the air with her producer, who also lives in Florida. Anyway, they started reminiscing about the voting fraud gambits that have been pulled in Florida, and they ended up laughing so hard that they could hardly breathe.
I think one has had to have suffered a lot of voting fraud for the pure absuridity of the shit they’ve tried to be considered funny.
I don’t know how Jeb will do in politics in the future. The Bush name is a dead franchise right now, and it’s not going to get better as we sink into an economic depression.
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By: Political Amazon on December 7, 2008
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“I am your cross to carry???
You mean, you replaced Jesus by me? I am really honored but this is too much honor. I prefer being president. I just can’t waiiiiiiit to get elected! Oh and it’s all about job creation, too”
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No, Sarah. Eyes front and listen quietly while I explain it to you. Please save your questions for last.
In the story of Jesus’ crucifixion, the cross Jesus carried and upon which he died was very, very heavy. It was a burden which he carried, and which provided the frame for his torture and murder.
If you are called a “cross to carry,” it means that you are a heavy burden.
Do you understand? Quit fussing with your hair! It means you are a burden that drags us down. A dead weight. Something that saps our will to live.
Is that any more clear?
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By: Political Amazon on December 7, 2008
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“Also, in reading some of the links mentioned in this thread , it seems possible to draw a conclusion that the way we interpret material is based in part on whether or not we have a liberal type of brain or a conservative…”
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Yes, that’s true, but how we interpret it is also based on a lot of other stuff in our brain, both what we have learned and dNA that was passed on to us by our parents.
I read last week where studies have shown that what our brain tells us our eyes are seeing is 10% based on actual information sent to us from our eyes via the optic nerve, but 90% is based on how are brain interprets it.
Brain anatomy differences in species also raises some interesting questions. When I took human anatomy in college, I learned that, if you compare human and dog brains, the optic nerve (eyes) in the humans is HUGE, and the olfactory (sense of smell) nerves are really very small. However, in dogs, its the exact opposite: dogs’ optic nerves are really small but their olfactory nerves are huge.
So it raises questions about how dogs “see” the world.
What they smell is far more important to how they react to the world than what they can see.
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By: Political Amazon on December 7, 2008
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Hi, Helen,
I am in agreement with you 100%. Your eloquent argument, complete with statements that provided hearty laughs, will hopefully give Greg some truthful perspective. Thanks for providing the homework on Max Cleland. The Repu-bagaboo-ican’ts just will not ever give anyone who is “other” a break. Stupid falls out of every crack and, left unchecked, just grows into bigger stupid. Stupid is as stupid does, and there are so many sheep that would rather just be led to the slaughter rather than WAKE UP. KEEP on Sarah Palin until she goes away and shuts the hell up. Thank you, as always, for your WONDERFUL blog and your biting commentary.
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By: Susan on December 7, 2008
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Helen, you are so right…….always. The nay saying 28% have nothing positive to say about their side so they have to make stuff up. You are absolutely correct about Max Cleland………that Greg dude has been drinkin the coolaid and listening to Rush, Ann and all the other vile righty talkers. That jackass Saxby from Georgia should have been locked up once he started spewing the lies about Cleland. He is a much worse abomination than Mrs Palin will ever be and she is hideous.
Mrs Palin is the least attractive person on the planet because of who she is, not what she looks like. The good ole boys at the top of the Repub party will not allow her to become a candidate again. She will always be ignorant, vile, viscious and willing to do anything to get her 15 minutes of fame…….again and again and again.
The racist and ignorant portion of the Republican party will be screaming for the next 4 years about Barack Obama. He has the insurrmountable task of cleaning up after the worst president in the history of the United States. The Republicans who have a clue, and there are many, will work with him and the Democrats to right this mess.
People like Greg will support candidates and vote in their own worst interests because Rush told them to or because their church told them to. None of them ever read or research anything.
40% of the 72% who voted for Barack Obama are in the top 2% economically in this country. They voted for him knowing their taxes would go up, they voted for him because they are smart enough to understand the platform he was running on. They care about their country. Limbaugh and his acolytes only care about one thing………me, me, me, and to hell with everyone else. And because they have no candidate to believe in they trash everyone else.
This country was prosperous under Bill Clinton. His indecressions were personal. They did not put the country at risk and American lives on the line……..dear Greg was probably livin the good life in the 90s.
Retreads?? Yes, that is right out of Limbaugh’s mouth. What is wrong with using people in your administration with experience?? We were the power country under Bill Clinton, we had the respect of all nations. Hillary can run circles around Condi in the SOS dept.
We have had pals and cronnies running things: “heck of a job Brownie”. Now we need people who bring to the table their own brains, ideas and experiences.
Greg and his band of silly sore losers will keep on fussing, listening to their sacred Rush and they too will reap the benefits of a decent president but they will never admit it…………. Please remember, dear Greg that Mrs Palin sounded like an idiot on FOX news, too………Shawn Hannity made her sound like an idiot and he is one of the biggest idiots on the TV !!!!!!
There is no liberal media on the TV, Greg. All of the stations are owned by 5 of the most conservative conglommerates in the country…….do some research, dude !!!!!!!!
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By: Joy on December 7, 2008
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Religion is the opiate of the people; faith, however, is a whole ‘nother thing. Religion – i.e. organized religion – is an opiate because it focuses attention on a false reality – a better life in another life sort of thing. Faith is found in all walks of life – and yes, conservative Republican evangelicals, faith is found in science too. When we make an hypothesis and then work towards proving/disproving the hypothesis, we operate on faith – faith in the ability of human intelligence to “divine” an answer, and we don’t believe that all answers are necessarily valid or conclusive. When science looks at the universe, we are awed – and it is with faith that we seek to touch the stars, not merely admire them. It is my sincere opinion that scientists often hold the deepest form of faith.
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By: Greytdog on December 7, 2008
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Hi Ann.
If I can bring a smile to at least one persons face per day, I figure I’ve done my job. Truthfully, I’m a stand-up comedian in another life. I went to medical school and found out my only real talent was my bedside manner with children. So I decided to become a ‘Pedia-median’…
…or a ‘Comedia-trician’ if you prefer.
~ PEACE ~ Δ
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 7, 2008
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Whirled Peas – You crack me up!!!
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By: Ann on December 7, 2008
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M&H please keep blogging.. I love dropping by for a piece of pie!
Jim in NH, we do not want Sara Palin here. While I’m not conservative, I love the “Live Free or Die” philosophy of the state. Sara Palin not the New Hampshire kind of conservative. We work together as a community here of both liberal and conservative, it’s the small town nature of our state. We don’t go for demonizing our opponents. We work in collaboration with our neighbors because we have to see them at work, at the store and at town meeting.
M&H please keep doing what you are doing!!
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By: Leigh on December 7, 2008
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Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center
“Psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences.”
Extinction vs Evolution ~ Change or Die!
☮Δ
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 7, 2008
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Also, in reading some of the links mentioned in this thread , it seems possible to draw a conclusion that the way we interpret material is based in part on whether or not we have a liberal type of brain or a conservative….
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By: Ann on December 7, 2008
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Jean; The Old Testament does not sanction polygamy or slavery…although some did engage in these practices.For example, Isaac only had one wife because he was particularly holy since he had been offered as a sacrifice.The status of women was different-both cherished and discounted at times;leading,prophecying, and then breeding only if a concubine from a different tribe.Of course your religious affiliation,training,interpretive sources, will determine the meaning found in The Old Testament.The meaning might even be more varied than the opinions of the Supreme Court JudgesI think, even without any changes.I suppose that is why we place such value on the choice of The Supreme Court Justices; and why the Old Testament is not just the spin given by Christian Fundamentalists.
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By: Ann on December 7, 2008
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God and his magic baby again. Religion is the opiate of the people.
Guess I really am a communist after all.
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By: troutay on December 7, 2008
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I am your cross to carry???
You mean, you replaced Jesus by me? I am really honored but this is too much honor. I prefer being president. I just can’t waiiiiiiit to get elected! Oh and it’s all about job creation, too!
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By: President Sarah Palin on December 7, 2008
at 8:03 AM
Hello Helen and Margaret…just a heads up: In my Bloglines reader, your latest post shos up as She’s not heavy, she’s my Palin… it starts with:
It seems that Palin is my cross to carry… my burden to bear. Clinging to what’s left of its dying reputation the Republican party has credited her with the Chambliss win down in Georgia. Delivering that win makes Palin the new Republican torchbearer.
But when I click on it, I get a 404 error – no found. Bloglines just did a major refit, so it could be them… just thought I’d let you know.
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By: ian in hamburg on December 7, 2008
at 6:01 AM
Binka Le Briton actually, she is my mom’s friend and used to live in the Virginia suburbs of DC before she moved to Brazil and set up a research center in the amazon. I have been bad about reading lately, I don’t have time, but I generally find good primary sources in DC. If I want to know something I look for someone who knows it, and I’m generally pretty good at figuring out who knows what I want to know and if they are bullshitting or not.
Otherwise I get different opinions and average them together. I probably know my suburbs better then the politicians. After all, the politicians lost their grip on my ‘burbs and the activists couldn’t understand why they were losing- I could have told them, I talk to more people then most of them ever do.
Anyway, if you are interested, Binka’s website is:
http://www.iracambi.com/english/binka.shtml
She’s pretty cutting edge. She writes about human rights issues in the rain forest.
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By: Elizabeth on December 7, 2008
at 3:38 AM
I started following global economics pretty young and learned how to do math on paper at the same time I was learning to read, so I was kind of a weird kid. That and I grew up next to DC, we started dissecting national and local politics in high school. I am pretty sure I’ve always tried to be at least 4 people at once which is probably why I get distracted easily. Right now I’m doing a math degree (I’ve mostly finished economics).
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By: Elizabeth on December 7, 2008
at 3:28 AM
Elizabeth,
You are in excellent company with orthodox rationality. Voltaire maybe?
Learn your line integrals and do your damn partial differential equations. You will do fine on the exam. Further, I predict you will do well in whatever you set your mind to achieve.
Good luck!
Aloha!
Jean
P. S. Would you believe, WHOLE DAYS have gone by in my long life that I didn’t have to solve a SINGLE quadratic equation?
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By: Jean on December 7, 2008
at 1:43 AM
Huh. Just read (Jean’s) santa clause piece. I started obsessing over abstract concept in early elementary school, maybe that’s one reason I’m so weird. I really was the youngest crumudgin. This is one reason I’ve never been able to take politics in this country so seriously, orthodox rationality was a perfect fit for me when I was 10, so when I grew up I just felt it was childish, as the world is more complicated then that.
I probably should get back to work. I have a modern applied math test coming up. Wish me luck -I’ve got to go back over line integrals and learn how to do partial differential equations! Fun!!
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By: Elizabeth on December 7, 2008
at 1:09 AM
McCain lost the election when he nominated Sarah Palin. It was at that point when he couldn’t come back because the independent voters were too pissed and quite a few of the republicans were offended also, focusing only on what democrats thought of Sarah Palin misses the big picture. She ruffled a lot of feathers. The neo-conservatives, foreign policy republicans and most moderate republicans really hated her. It’s hard to have that many enemies on your own side. Instead of Palin bringing home votes and McCain bringing home votes, she split the party and the brand might not recover.
The election was over when they reported on her high school basketball career and when the paper wrote about how big the town was in which she got her experience (about twice the size of the high school I attended). While the initial uptick was positive, we all have access to the internet and appointing someone no one knows about would bring out natural curiosity. She just didn’t have the statistics to prove her argument about experience, as she was plainly a political choice. Regardless about what local news commentators put in their editorials, her statistics were very thin and showed up in wikipedia articles which are easily accessible.
When you have an intellectual base that hates you and a popular culture that isn’t sure about you, it’s a recipe for low approval ratings. Bush’s approval ratings didn’t really start to plunge until the local republican leaders started siding with the democrats in calling him divisive and incompetent.
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By: Elizabeth on December 7, 2008
at 12:44 AM
Jean, I’m with you. I dropped in for my fix as well.
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By: D on December 6, 2008
at 11:58 PM
Oh and it’s all about job creation, too!
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By: President Sarah Palin on December 6, 2008
at 11:10 PM
But I heard that Santa Claus is actually no Christian. Is that true? Perhaps he is a Muslim terrorist!
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By: President Sarah Palin on December 6, 2008
at 11:09 PM
Dear Helen and Margaret,
Where are you and what are you two up to? We haven’t had our ‘Margaret and Helen Fix’ since Dec. 3. We need it!!!
Christmas is coming up. I believe in Santa Claus. My parents taught me about him when I was little and we taught our kids too. He’s an old, fat man with the long white beard in a red suit that comes down the chimney on Christmas Eve and leaves all the good little children lots of lovely presents. The rest of the year he lives at the North Pole with Mrs. Claus, a sweet old grandmotherly type, and lots of elves who make toys.
Naturally, there are strings attached. If I were naughty, he might come but only leave coals in my stocking for me. I was on my good behavior for WEEKS before Christmas! I WANTED ALL THOSE PRESENTS IN THE WORST WAY.
The house, classroom and the town were beautifully decorated. There were wonderful aromas coming from the kitchen. Music and festivities were going on all over. It was Jesus birthday and I knew all about birthdays. I got presents and a party with a birthday cake on MY birthday too.
After Christmas when I went back to school, all the kids were bragging about what Santa brought them. Me too! Some kids didn’t get many presents or none at all. Obviously those kids were not only naughty, but probably down right bad! Up till then, I had thought they were OK but I decided they could not be a good influence so I shouldn’t have anything to do with them.
There were other kids that got a whole lot more presents than I did. I was jealous! I had seen them do and say things I had been taught were naughty, but Santa must not have known about those things. Also, secretly, I had done a few naughty things myself, but I got presents anyway. So apparently Santa had been busy and hadn’t noticed MY misdeeds.
At about age 7, I found out that Santa was actually our parents and family. Bummer. They LIED! They had taught me that lying was BAD, BAD, BAD! What disillusionment!
However, they carefully explained that Santa was the SYMBOL or PERSONIFICATION of the SPIRIT of giving and that made you feel good. The fun was the element of anticipation and surprise on Christmas morning when you received all those presents. So I lost my intellectual virginity at age 7. It was my introduction to ABSTRACT CONCEPTS at the AGE OF REASON.
When the next holiday season rolled around, I found it was to my advantage to start believing in Santa again. I didn’t want to miss out on the good feelings and fun! It took me YEARS to make the transition to understanding the obscure meanings of abstract concepts. I’m still working on it!
There are plenty more of those symbols and/or personifications such as ‘Uncle Sam’, ‘John Bull’, the ‘Statue of Liberty’, the ‘Constitution’, the‘Flag’, the ‘Devil’, the ‘Evil Empire’, the ‘Axis of Evil’, the ‘Crucifix’, the ‘Star of David’, and of course, ‘God’. Disrespecting SOME of these symbols can get you labeled as ‘Unpatriotic’, or ‘Blasphemous,’ and all kinds of nasty names! Even failing to wear a ‘Flag’ on a man’s lapel is scandalous! People take notice of these things and self-righteously jump on them to nit-pick a person’s character.
I have heard a lot of discussions lately about the Constitution, what’s in it and what it means. I am guilty of quoting it too to bolster my point of view as the ultimate authority for our country, as if I were qualified.
It is an open-ended document however and can be CHANGED as evident by the number of Amendments that have been adopted and are always being proposed as legislation to the Congress. It is also open to different interpretations that go on all the time. That’s why we have a Supreme Court. Even those nine members do not often agree unanimously. Usually their decisions are now 5-4. Pretty close.
Speaking of personifications. There have been countless paintings depicting Jesus. I think of Michelangelo’s image on the Sistine Chapel in the Vatican in Rome as the personification of God.
Then there is the Bible, which, according to some, supersedes the Constitution as the absolute ‘Word of God’. It is NOT an open-ended document. Now, if some not-yet-dry-behind-the-ears, self-anointed fundamentalist political preacher with less formal education and life experience than I have can interpret (spin?) The Bible AND persuade people with his message, I can surely express my opinion without being called blasphemous – or worse. Anybody who professes that ‘God’ sent George W. Bush to the White House is well……………off base in MY OPINION.
The Old Testament of the Bible sanctioned slavery and polygamy (same thing), which is no longer legally permitted in our time in this and many other countries. Which is ABSOLUTELY the CORRECT AUTHORITY and which is the ABSOLUTELY WRONG AUTHORITY, the Constitution or the Bible?
I suppose I will continue to grapple with the ideas of complex concepts – a life long pursuit.
Aloha!
Jean
P. S. Yes, I do believe in Santa Claus!
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By: Jean on December 6, 2008
at 9:06 PM
A friend just sent me your blog. Great writing! Remember, Sarah got elected in an overwhelming Republican state. Overwhelming. Everyone gets swept along. I live in Wasilla, myself (yep, I’m a Democrat!)
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By: Julie in Alaska on December 6, 2008
at 7:44 PM
Just checking in and it looks like there are troll appendages everywhere! LOL Good work everyone!
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By: Proud Community OrganizerWA on December 6, 2008
at 6:37 PM
JuneauJoe-
Wonderful first Friday ! December always my favorite… time in the long-dark to honor all our artists and the light they bring into our lives.
This pie thingy is making me fat just reading about it. Gonna go walk the dogs in the slush to burn some of it off.
At least 2 bears still awake downtown Joe.Be sure to sing and talk if you are out in the dark… gives bears fair warning to veer off and won’t get you picked up for a 72 hour hold like it might Outside.
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By: Alaska Pi on December 6, 2008
at 5:10 PM
With the Bushs, Palins, Ted Stevens, Chambliss and friends of the above: It is like a bad soap opera that the networks said no to because it was too ridiculous.
What money and stupidity will lead us to.
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By: JuneauJoe on December 6, 2008
at 4:45 PM
Political Amazon: “We’ve become the official ass-wipers for Bush Jr and his shitty messes.”
Welcome to Florida where we now face the real possibility that Jeb the Rightful Heir Bush will run for the Senate seat being vacated by Mel Do-Nothing Martinez. Of course, when Jeb left the gubnor’s office, he handed the keys to George The Tanner Hamilton’s cousin, Charlie Crispy Crist. So it looks like political dynasties will continue. . .now we know what happened to the last royal family of Russia. . .they immigrated to Texas. . .
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By: Greytdog on December 6, 2008
at 4:27 PM
Great Post Political Amazon:
I wish the haters would read your post and make comments as to how they feel on the topic.
You are making comments which are so true. Bush’s No Child Left Behind was just an excuse to cut funding and to fund his religious schools. It is interesting that the religious schools are doing no better than public schools.
It is time to make serious changes to NCLB because it is one nightmare of a bill that did not work. It was another case of ineptness of the Bush administration. Instead of tweeking something to make it reasonable, they insisted it was perfection and caused problem after problem but just cut funding and said no to reasonable changes.
NCLB needs to go in its present form.
It is also kind of interesting that education had to go through so many hoops and show competence when the Bush Administration showed ineptness after ineptness. They could do whatever they wished and had no accountability. Not even
Congress was allowed to judge Bush/ Cheney/ Rummy and the other dummies.
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By: JuneauJoe on December 6, 2008
at 4:15 PM
Helen:
“…Thanks everyone. I promise to try and move off the Palin topic soon. I’ve just never been good at ignoring idiots. You see, in a country that offers you a free public education and free public libraries there is just no excuse for ignorance… except ignorance itself….”
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There are so many good parts of Helen’s post, but I think this one is especially thought-provoking.
Yes, we do have public schools and public libraries, but there has been declines in all of those services over the years. Less is offered and, not surprisingly, in states like California, that had a magnificent public education system when I was in school, the ratings of public education have plummeted.
I worry about what the next few decades will bring us as the kids who were educated during the Bush Jr administration come of age, enter the workplace, marry, have families, and vote.
I especially worry about places like Alaska.
Why? Because both Bush Jr and Sarah Palin have one huge thing in common: they both place very little value on learning and education.
They have other things in common that support this: they both are uncurious people, neither are avid readers, and both of their college careers were a fracking joke. Sarah Palin had to attend multiple colleges before she got a BS, and Bush Jr attended under a legacy program, and put more effort in being a cheerlearder and drinking then he did in his studies.
These two are people who are so narcissistic that they believe their gut feelings are enough to govern a country by.
And we have now seen the short-term results of this kind of a leader: our country has been greatly damaged, and we are heading in a depression if we are not already there.
It shouldn’t be surprising that so many education funds were cut–except for giving money to “faith-based” schools (i.e., Christian schools; haven’t seen ONE dollar go for Muslim or Buddhist schools).
I think the fact that we have two uncurious people who have little curiosity and desire to learn about other people and other cultures, and who don’t value an education, will end up creating for us problems which will impact us for decades.
The greatest investment a society can make is in our educating their children. Neither Bush Jr or Sarah Palin know this, and they have been in charge of making cuts to programs. Education has often been their target. Both of them feel quite good about funding that gets our sons and daughters slaughtered in the Middle East, but see little value in ensuring that all children have a chance for a higher education.
Bush Jr and probably even Sarah Palin will never feel the impacts of this like the rest of us do. We will see our children struggle to do well, and feel badly because they simply are not competitive with other country’s young people when it comes to education, especially in sciences, medicine and engineering. We will bear the burden of the taxes to fund benefits for these children who can not adequately provide for themselves and their children. We will worry that our children will be left destitute when they can no longer work.
It’s funny…Bush Jr has made it a life-long career of making shitty meses that others had to clean up behind him. In trouble as a kid, failure to perform as expected in the Texas Guard, going AWOL, totally screwing up on investment after investment, running Texas into the ground as governor, and now running America into the ground as president.
We’ve become the official ass-wipers for Bush Jr and his shitty messes.
But I think the shitty mess he has made of education in America will be our worst pile of shit to clean up yet.
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By: Political Amazon on December 6, 2008
at 3:57 PM
Greytdog do you have link to mentioned key lime pie?
drooling over here 🙂
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Steph in MN, please dont send Greg to my state
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Sorry Political Amazon, thanks for post December 5, 2008 at 9:06 pm dont know how I missed it, off to research…
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By: PalinShutUp on December 6, 2008
at 3:38 PM
Good day skyewriter,
Here is the Sarah Palin / Katie Couric clip about the Supreme Court decisions…
…if you can stomach it.
☮Δ
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 6, 2008
at 3:22 PM
Anonymous,
I have to wonder — were they commending you or criticizing you when they told you you looked alot like Sarah Palin?
Speaking as a guy with standard guy, er, lust, I have to say that I find Sarah Palin very UNattractive (it’s an eye thing) — especially so when she opens her mouth and starts talking.
I have a difficult time imagining her getting anyone’s motor going…
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By: GearHead on December 6, 2008
at 3:13 PM
JuneauJoe:
One thing I have always wondered is why Palin wasn’t upset by the Supreme Court’s June 2008 ruling in the Valdez cleanup?
Didn’t a journalist ask her if there were any Supreme Court rulings she disagreed with? I was shocked and awed and saddened (really) for the people in Alaska who were so obviously absent from her thoughts, er, mind, um, brain?
(I don’t believe she thinks, so coming up with where the Alaskan people would be in her “body controlling thingy” is tough. Probably nowhere).
Happy Saturday all.
Good job on all the smacking-down to the warriors here.
M & H must be gearing up for a doozie of a post; so excited!
Δ skyewriter
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By: skyewriter on December 6, 2008
at 3:03 PM
Greg,
Please move. You are fouling up my state.
Thanks,
Steph
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By: Steph in MN also on December 6, 2008
at 3:02 PM
You rock!
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By: g on December 6, 2008
at 2:53 PM
Morning all,
You need to go to mudflats and read ‘Sarah stomps out of the room and won’t empty her pockets’
You need to scroll down to it.
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
In Alaska, we see a Sarah Palin who says the right things and then does the opposite. Sarah has her self interest at heart and is willing to squash the will/needs of the little people while smoothing the way for the big corporate interests.
I feel sorry for the villages who must deal with the consequences of lack of oversight for mining and oil extraction. When the mess finally happens like with the Exxon Valdez, 30 years later the people who were hurt get a tiny fraction of what they had truly lost. Exxon bitches about even giving out the small amount that they finally had to pay.
Palin is trying as hard as she can to exploit the resources of Alaska, and not considering what is best for the people it will affect.
AlaskaPi – that was quite a first Friday last night.
I almost missed it but glad I went. I see the Gov Mansion is lit up too.
Everyone: I ate almost 1/2 a pie for dinner last night. It was either that or cook. Just reading about the pies you folks make is hard to take.
Have a good day!
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By: JuneauJoe on December 6, 2008
at 2:35 PM
Ooops I’m the above anonymous. Who changed the comment method? Oh geesh, a Palin moment.
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By: drbuzzieboombatz on December 6, 2008
at 2:29 PM
Greg, have an affair with Elisabitch Hasselbeck so we can have something fun to talk about. We can be glued to our sets watching “The View,” waiting for the morning Elisabitch gets all flustered (again) by a liberal comment and she slips up and states, “well, last night in bed Greg said, er um, TIM said….”
But then she’d just somehow try to ‘splain how affairs with other far-rightwingers was either an amendment to HER constitution, or promoted by HER god somewhere in HER bible as a way to strengthen her party, er, her marriage.
Last night, I went to a christmas/going-away party for a veterinarian friend. Toward the party’s end, even though I’m female, blond and educated, I experienced what it must be like when a male’s Viagra SUDDENLY stops working…2 people were eyeing me, then stated, “You know you look a lot like Sarah Palin tonite?” Talk about going LIMP!
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By: Anonymous on December 6, 2008
at 2:27 PM
benjaminvallen1 wrote: “Its hilarious and somewhat sad that all you know how to do is attack Palin’s intelligence.”
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Well, some choose to question the gov’s intelligence. I choose to question her ethical stance. Alaskans have been told ,over and over OVER , by the gov that she will tell us things she later decides she will not.
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/613501.html
We have been told over and over and over the gov is dedicated to open and transparent government. We NOW have more secrecy in government than ever before, in terms of what the gov’s office has drawn a curtain over.
Remember, how the gov seemed not to understand her supposed gaffe about the role of VP in debate with Mr Biden? Well- she’s been practising up the Cheney-bunker-in-the-executive thingy up here in our Governor’s chair.
Whether the gov is dumber n dirt, sly as a fox, or whatever she is dangerous.
If she can keep YOUR eye on will-o-wisps like Ayers like she kept ours on open-and-transparent-REFORM , you may someday wake to find you let someone in your house who then shoved you outside and slammed and locked the door like we Alaskans did…
Be careful!
That princess wave thing she does is REALLY a dismissive swat at anyone or anything she does not want to deal with…
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By: Alaska Pi on December 6, 2008
at 1:20 PM
Back to the main point of this blog… Helen I absolutely adore you.. please keep writing..there is nothing like good ole fashioned wisdom.. something that the US seems to be lacking in alot of respects.
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By: dc in buffalo, ny on December 6, 2008
at 1:16 PM
All I can say is… Amen. You always say everything I am thinking in exactly the way I wish I could say it!
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By: Carrieann on December 6, 2008
at 12:58 PM
benjaminvallen1 wrote: “Its hilarious and somewhat sad that all you know how to do is attack Palin’s intelligence.”
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You’re right. We should be attacking Palin’s ‘lack’ of intelligence. And God knows there’s a lot of that. Make a note, Helen!
God, I love this blog.
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By: RK on December 6, 2008
at 12:27 PM
Oooops…
LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH4PA-yOxb8
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 6, 2008
at 11:52 AM
Palin stumps for Saxby
☮Δ
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 6, 2008
at 11:51 AM
Lane:
“I would hope that most of us ended up here on this blog because we’ve tried to look at things from all angles and possibilities, and after much thought and deliberation, decided that what has happened in the past eight years has just not been right for America. It has not made America better.”
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Thanks for coming back! Will have to root around and see if I can find study you mention.
Yup- we humans do defend our beliefs… sometimes beyond all Reason.
Most of us react to or away from our first families – the traditions or stories we grow up with are the givens we measure from.
I feel lucky to have grown up in a home where mandatory attendance at dinner was not merely to make sure we ate at least one good meal but an open invitation to share our days and thoughts.
As my sibs and I grew up and life began to take on complexity, the subjects grew ever broader.
My dad was a solid practical old-time conservative and my mom a wide-ranging intellectual with a solid liberal bent.
We duked it out, all around, on a variety of issues regularly. The only time anyone got cut-off was the evening Dad and I got sent down from the table by Mom. She said our “discussion” about Viet Nam had degenerated into total INcivility and we were banished til we could act decently.
As we were screaming at each other I think she was right… but Dad and I were sure hurt at the time…yikes.
I have thought of those wideranging family talks these last 8 years-often. I wonder if we could have managed. as a country . to avoid some of the misery and damage we have wrought if we had been able to talk across our beliefs…
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By: Alaska Pi on December 6, 2008
at 11:41 AM
Helen, thanks for continuing to write! I just love you! : ) : )
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By: Taube Vallabha on December 6, 2008
at 11:41 AM
“The level of delusion here is UNBELIEVABLE”
By: Carol on December 5, 2008
at 8:21 am
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It is, isn’t it?
Who would ever have thought human beings could approach zero on the delusional scale?
We so often exceed 50%…
Just amazing what hard work can do!
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By: Alaska Pi on December 6, 2008
at 11:02 AM
oh Helen, that was an absolute prize winner!
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By: gstockton on December 6, 2008
at 10:54 AM
Alaska Pi: I’m so sorry, but I don’t have citations. I just read and read, but lose track of where I’ve seen things. The most recent thing was a study where people rated themselves on a spectrum of how liberal or conservative their political views were, then they were shown some photos. The two groups, given the same set of “facts,” interpreted what was happening in the photos, assigned blame etc.. The results demonstrated that the subjects’ interpretations of what was happening in the photos ended up being totally along political lines.
But you’re right, this does seem to be a concept that extends throughout history. We just don’t see what our filter tells us doesn’t exist. And we’ll fight to the death to preserve our beliefs — no matter what the actual facts are. (Galileo and his heliocentric universe vs. the Catholic Church and geocentrism?)
As someone who grew up in a Republican-thinking household and whose entire birth family would listen to a Faux News report while nodding their heads, “Amen, brother!” I would hope that most of us ended up here on this blog because we’ve tried to look at things from all angles and possibilities, and after much thought and deliberation, decided that what has happened in the past eight years has just not been right for America. It has not made America better.
Lolly: The world needs more youth like YOU!
Arelene: LMAO!!
SavantNoir: “As we see the Big 3 crumple because of Union-stranglation, just imagine an entire economy with this chokehold about its neck.”
Let me get this straight. We have CEOs and executives making an annual salary of MILLIONS, not to mention bonuses worth even more MILLIONS, and you’re blaming the workers, who are merely making a living wage ($28 per hour, not including benefits). Are you kidding me? You’re either one of the aforementioned executives, working as a henchman for those executives, or suffering from intellectual impairment.
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By: Lane on December 6, 2008
at 10:49 AM
To freD: My sincerest apologies for misconstruing your intentions (and for totally missing your dry humor). Here is a slice of Key Lime Pie made with homegrown key limes, nestled in a hazelnut & pecan crust & topped with homemade whipped cream. Forgive me?
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By: Greytdog on December 6, 2008
at 10:29 AM
goldnsilver:
“Political Amazon said: “It depends on who defines “bullshit.” On most message boards on the internet, your post would have been immediately deleted for using the word “bullshit.”
So how would you feel about them deleting what they felt was bullshit, based on their own abitrary standards, and it happened to be your post?”
The fact that you have to define bullshit, makes your full of shit.”
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Oops…not really. Nope- not at all.
Our PoliAma here has been eliminating BS at a rate almost equal to Helen’s…
It IS a time to define what we are talking about- now- in this blog and in this country…
Fine old words have been twisted and mangled over these last many years – some sharpened into swords , some diluted to the point of meaningless-ness…
Have a piece o pie, here in H&M’s parlour , and read along as we sort out what we all mean.
Watch the “cherry-picking” though…
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By: Alaska Pi on December 6, 2008
at 10:02 AM
Snap!!
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By: Sharon on December 6, 2008
at 9:43 AM
Helen, you are so right. I too want to move on from talking about Palin, but as long as she keeps turning up like a bad penny, we just can’t. If we turn our backs and ignore her, or don’t respond every time she says something stupid (which she just continues to do), then she, and people like Greg from Minn, will take that as a green light for whatever she wants to do. And we can’t let that happen.
In fact, I can’t believe that Palin was allowed to get as far as she did. I’d never heard of her before McCain picked her, and it should have stayed that way.
This is a bit OT, but I have to share that I attended a memorial service for a wonderful man on Friday. I knew him through his community service, but many in the room were there because of his long-time Republican activities – so needless to say, I found myself surrounded by very right-wing Republicans. It was really creepy when I thought of how many of them had supported McCain and Palin – it was even mentioned once. I really wanted to stand up and point out that, thankfully, their candidates lost, but restrained myself.
And why did I bring that up? Because it still boggles my mind that people who lead ordinary and sometimes very productive lives can be so misguided and delusional when it comes to politics. I just don’t get it, and that email you had from Greg is a good example.
Thanks for all that you do to give us all the reality check we need, and to remind us to always be constantly vigilant.
Pat
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By: Pat, Washingonton state on December 6, 2008
at 7:22 AM
“01/20/09 The end of an error.”
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By: Zedz on December 6, 2008
at 5:58 AM
Political Amazon said: “It depends on who defines “bullshit.” On most message boards on the internet, your post would have been immediately deleted for using the word “bullshit.”
So how would you feel about them deleting what they felt was bullshit, based on their own abitrary standards, and it happened to be your post?”
The fact that you have to define bullshit, makes your full of shit.
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By: goldnsilver on December 6, 2008
at 5:21 AM
I am an adult adoptee reunited with my entire birthfamily for almost 20 yrs now. I had the honor and blessing of knowing both of my birth grandmother’s and great-grandmother before they passed away just a couple of yrs ago, as well as being close to my adoptive grandmother all my life. Grandparents are so full of wisdom and legacy and identity, and I’m thankful for being able to receive so much from my heritage ~ all my heritage. A miracle in my situation. Blessings to you both!
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By: Thankfulpeach on December 6, 2008
at 4:57 AM
you are a riot. i love your posts!!!!
thanks for grabbing a cyber-soapbox & having at it. please keep it up. many thanks.
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By: jenn farrington on December 6, 2008
at 3:34 AM
Quoted from katie at 12:19 am
“I watched the election and cried, I thought of Martin Luther Kings dream speech…
ME TOO. Thanks for caring about US and coming all the way UP(?) here from Australia.
Don’t bother trying to get through to those numb skull, knuckle draggers {See Troll / Palin politics links above}. They’re heading in the wrong direction. Extinction vs Evolution. See how that works?
Remember, leaders get up and walk away, followers…………..follow! I’m sure you get the idea. I.S.P. / Ignore Stupid People, you’ll live longer and happier.
“You are a nation of caring, loving peoples and I hope and pray for your sakes, all will end well and some semblance of order will now come in.”
Can I get an AMEN? {Yes I believe in God. I just don’t worship a ‘book’!}
And remember you heard it here first:
The Bush Depression™ ®2008
Tell your friends!
M&H ~ ☮Δ
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 6, 2008
at 3:12 AM
Mstate at 12:05 am
Nice snap. I usually dispense with the dregs with the simple acronym…
I.S.P. = Ignore Stupid People
PS: I heard the ‘Little Lord Fauntleroy’ say we’re in a RECESSION. That’s gotta mean we’re already in…
The Bush Depression™ ®2008
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 6, 2008
at 2:34 AM
KarenJ at 10:22 pm
“I love the one with SP sitting in the Porsche…”
http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/04/political-pictures-sarah-palin-politics/
PERFECT. Good for all occasions
The Bush Depression™ ®2008
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By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 6, 2008
at 2:25 AM
PA: “….Of course, then the bitter Hillary supporters would slam the internet with the same BS they did during the Primary. Obama’s cred would be very tarnished by these accusations of sexism. Remember Hitler’s big lie theory? Any lie repeated often enough will be eventually thought by the people to be the truth.”
hmm, I just dont know, the American public is not that dumb, the majority obviously did not fall for it when Hillary began the ‘palling with terrorists’ crapola Palin, McCain and their minions jumped on.
PA: “…Bill would appear on Fox and appear worried when Hannity asked, with a concern frown on his face, “Bill, How IS Hillary standing up to all of this sexist treatment?”
Bill would sigh, perhaps let a tear roll out of his eye, and say,…..”
Ive got to tell you, I think my neighbors heard me howl with laughter when I read that.
well, I hope that soap opera never takes place and that you are wrong but Im all about keeping close tabs on her and her MR.
btw, you still didnt explain how they gained from outsourcing to India and I really would like to know.
You seem to have a bit more knowledge than most.
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The Bush Depression™ ®2008
quick! put that on a sticker!
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OMG KarenJ, did you check out page 4 “Palin fa. values??” is that real? that is too freaking funny!
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By: PalinShutUp on December 6, 2008
at 1:57 AM
Charles:
“I was surprised years ago listening to the program “Alternative Radio” and I cannot recall all these years later who the guest had been but he spoke about seeing a list of guests at the Bilderberg Meeting and seeing a name he didn’t recognize and it turned out to be the governor of a southern state, he didn’t think about it much until Clinton ran for president…
I know that could put me into the arena of “Conspiracy theory” but to be honest, if anyone believes people with similar interests don’t get together and talk about what those interests are, then you haven’t paid much attention to the comment section of this blog much. Did a fast Google search and came up with this link (hoping it doesn’t get me moderated again)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jordan012798.htm”
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WARNING: This post travels far afield, into Pat Robertson’s association with the CIA and Mugabe, before it finds its way back home. Zimbabwe is much on my mind these days, as horrible news comes out about the worsening conditions, which we still don’t know the real depth of because of Mugabe’s tyranny.
So you may want to just skip this post, and I won’t blame you if you do.
I just want people to know the background of Mugabe and how Pat Robertson and the CIA helped put him into power (which required destruction of Zimbabwe’s already pathetic social support and infrastructure, with the payment being in DIAMONDS.
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The Bilderberg Meeting…Well, it’s not the only such meeting.
There is a nasty group, the Council on National Policy, that used to try to meet in secret, which has some interesting members, too. I believe there was definitely some nasty plots hatched in that group. But did everyone who attend get involved in them? Doubtful. But I also don’t believe that those who didn’t get involved in the plots didn’t know what was going on and remained silent about it.
There is always a temptation to assume guilt by association, which is itself a logical fallacy.
In some cases, there really is a conspiracy, such as when Pat Robertson became very public buddies with a newly-installed Pres. Mugabe in Zimbabwe, Robertson providing the annointment of his Christian leadership position (laugh if you want, but at that time a good part of the world still regarded Pat Robertson as The Real Deal, and Robertson pimping this undeserved rep makes him more foul than can be described, IMO), and they made a BIG DEAL about Robertson’s “Operation Blessing”–supposedly airplanes equipped with medical equipment which would fly to areas of the world where there was a crisis which warranted extra medical capabilities–being used in Zimbabwe to help the people who had suffered so much from the prior ruler.
The part about the people suffering from the prior ruler is true. In fact, the CIA helped Mugabe’s forces to overthrow him, and part of that effort was to destabilize the country to such an extent that there was widespread terror, famine, and collapse of important governmental infrastructures, which were not so good to begin with.
The part that was a big fat-assed lie was this: Robertson was supporting Mugabe not because Mugabe was such a prince (his actions while overthrowing the previous president gave a real clear idea that we would be seeing in the future what we have witnessed in Zimbabwe in the past 3 years), but because Mugabe had given Robertson control over some very important diamond mines. Operation Blessing planes, if they ever had medical equipment, had been stripped bare, and were being used to ferry staff and equipment to the diamond mines.
BTW, if you look at the places where Operation Blessing has landed “workd,” you will find that it was usually in an area where the CIA was operating to destabilize a country so that new leadership could be established.
Robertson’s association with the CIA and their death squads goes back to the time of the Sandanistas when, in fact, Robertson was quite the apologist for the leader of the death squads.
I believe where Zimbabwe is now was caused in large part by the CIA and its helper/profiteers like Pat Robertson.
Right now there the situation in the Zimbabwe diamond mines makes the movie “Diamond Mines” look like “The Waltons.”
Worse, it is believed that Mugabe is maneuvering to take control of the diamonds being found. This would provide him plent of financing to continue his tyranny for quite a few more years.
And then there is the starvation and famine in Zimbabwe, far worse than anyone outside knew.
But I digress…
Sometimes the associations are just that–associations.
Sometimes they are not. The relationship the Clintons have to India, its outsourcing empire, and other Indian businesses has to do with the Clinton profiting from it. And they do, BIG TIME.
Thank you for letting me get that off my chest. If you run into anyone who doesn’t know how Mugabe came into power, please tell them about it.
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By: Political Amazon on December 6, 2008
at 1:44 AM
Thanks for another awesome blog!!
Sadly for people like greg….the truth hurts!!
Keep speaking the truth, we love ya!!!
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By: Tracy on December 6, 2008
at 1:43 AM
Rock ON, Helen! You are wonderful. I’m sick of the Gregs of this world, too. So sick. Power to you.
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By: Anna Dole on December 6, 2008
at 12:41 AM
I was so surprised to read your blog on your thoughts about Sarah Palin, I think here in Australia, most folk think that the people in the states really wanted her, many people over here are also very happy she and McCain did not get in.
I watched the election and cried, I thought of Martin Luther Kings dream speech, I did actually watch him when he gave it, so many years ago and it was one of those speeches that just stuck in my my mind, so when Barak won, I cried, I have only been to the states once and that was only a stop over, but I have very many cyber friends there, I fought tooth and nail in the Star Meridian forum for Barak and I was shot down in bits, but I did not give up, I was and still am amazed that they cannot see what has been happening with Bush, how the country has been roller coasted into financial oblivion and taking the rest of the world with it, my heart weeps for you all, you are a nation of caring, loving peoples and I hope and pray for your sakes, all will end well and some semblance of order will now come in, I hope that Barak puts the skeptics to shame and make them eat their words and I hope they choke on them.
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By: katie on December 6, 2008
at 12:19 AM
Dear Helen,
You are so right about this Palin thing. Time and time again this gun totin’ nut job has tried to build her credibility and then has torn it down with her lame attempt at a joke- I hope she wasn’t serious when she thought seeing Russia from her house was credentials for foreign policy. Give me a break. Not to mention she has not been to half the countries she is talking about. Maybe take the money that you spent on your lavish wardrobe and visit the rest of the world (and the US for that matter) and see how things work outside of the tundra. I remember sitting on the couch on 9/11 of this year when Palin had her first “ivy league” interview with Charlie Gibson. Usually politicians- esp. Republicans- know what the Bush doctrine is. (FYI Palin, if you are reading this… the Bush doctrine is NOT HIS WORLD VIEWS!) And Helen, when you responded to Greg, it didn’t even seem like you were trying to prove every (single) point of his wrong. It seemed natural and that is what a good blogger needs. The fact that you are willing to say you looked in the mirror and saw an older woman made the response even more LOL (laugh out loud). And Greg, no one said Palin had no accomplishments. Palin has worked her way up from PTA board member to Gov. of Ala(soft a)ska but the way she presents her self- in the ignorant manner she does, outweighs the accomplishments BIG TIME. And when a third grader asked what the VP does, and she didn’t know, I almost died laughing. She needs to read up and or leave politics for people who know it best.
Thanks for such a great post. Andrew
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By: Andrew K. of Milwaukee on December 6, 2008
at 12:18 AM
Since this blog has been attacked by Trolls, I thought the following site with a picture and definition of these lowly creatures might be amusing to some. I found the link to the site on Creative Endeavors blog. (Sorry if someone already put it up-I try to keep current with reading everybodies responses but may have missed a few.)
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By: Mstate on December 6, 2008
at 12:05 AM
Since we’re still on The Subject, I thought you folks would enjoy a LOL — go to http://punditkitchen.com/page/2/?s=sarah+palin for a few pages of very aptly captioned pix.
I love the one with SP sitting in the Porsche…
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By: KarenJ on December 5, 2008
at 10:22 PM
What, no comments on the SCOTUS hearing in re to the suit concerning Obama’s citizenship? (Appears some folks in this country still can’t quite understand that Hawaii is not “some exotic foreign place” (a la Cokie Roberts) but the 50th state of the United States of America. Seems some folks can’t quite figure out that a child born in the USA (including hawaii) is a citizen of the USA regardless of the parents’ citizenship or not. . . oh well. Wouldn’t surprise anyone here, would it, to discover that Clarence Thomas is pushing this suit to be reviewed by the SCOTUS?
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By: Greytdog on December 5, 2008
at 10:11 PM
To Greg (But not THAT Greg) from MN and other folks from MN: we know not all Minnesotans are blinded by the Light of Sarah. After all, you gave the country Paul Wellstone. 🙂 And dear God, we need Paul more than ever. I miss that man.
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By: Greytdog on December 5, 2008
at 10:08 PM
The news said tonight that Caroline Kennedy I-can’t-remember-her-married-name has said that she’d interested in the NY Senate seat being vacated by HRC. That would be interesting.
By my calculations, she’s about 50, and could have a long career ahead of her. In 8 years, she’d still be under 60.
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By: Martha on December 5, 2008
at 9:45 PM
I was surprised years ago listening to the program “Alternative Radio” and I cannot recall all these years later who the guest had been but he spoke about seeing a list of guests at the Bilderberg Meeting and seeing a name he didn’t recognize and it turned out to be the governor of a southern state, he didn’t think about it much until Clinton ran for president…
I know that could put me into the arena of “Conspiracy theory” but to be honest, if anyone believes people with similar interests don’t get together and talk about what those interests are, then you haven’t paid much attention to the comment section of this blog much. Did a fast Google search and came up with this link (hoping it doesn’t get me moderated again)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jordan012798.htm
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By: Charles on December 5, 2008
at 9:28 PM
“Wow this blog sure has attracted some nuts! ”
I know! Isn’t it GREAT?
And remember, cyber-smiting Trolls is aerobic. It helps burn off all of those calories from the continual pie-eating that goes on here.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 9:22 PM
“Amazon, thank you for addressing my own concerns regarding the political maneuvering of the Clinton’s. I have never been a large Clinton supporter, I was always sceptical regarding his administration, though not as educated regarding it …”
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I was very involved in research to refute some of the bizzare bullshit coming out of Arkanasas via the American Spectator’s “Arkansas Education Project,” funded by Richard Mellon Scaife.
If you were to see a graphic of the income per industry in Arkansas, at about the time the Arkansas Edcation Project was founded, you’d see a sharp and huge rise in “Snipe Hunt Industry,” because those good ol’ boys in Arkansas sure had fun taking gullible yankee journalists on some of the greatest snipe hunts in history.
Anyway, I actually spent a few weeks in Arkansas visiting cities and towns of interest, and going through their records for info on the Clintons. At that time there were still quite a few places who still had part or all of their records in paper, filed in folders, then in boxes.
I found out quite a few interesting things, some of which were actually used to deflate the Scaphoids’ absurd stories. It is amazing how a little scrap of paper can turn out to mean so much.
But both Bill and Hillary, IMO, changed a lot after they left the WH. Bill especially after his heart surgery, underwent a profound personality change.
Anyway, it wasn’t until the Dem primary that my opinion of the Clintons underwent a huge change. I started out a Hillary supporter, but I quickly got turned off by the way she lanched her campaign and the attitude of “I’m the inevitable candidate.” Then, even after I had switched to Obama, I still wanted to leave the door open to support Hillary in the future, but the way she and Bill campaigned–I just don’t think I could ever support either of them for anything.
Why? Because they showed themselves far to willing to do harm to America and put their own interests ahead of the best interests of Amerca.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 9:19 PM
About Hillary and her India outsourcing problems…
I suggest googling [ “Hillary Clinton” India outsourcing jobs ]
You can also add “Vinod Gupta” to the search. He is the founder of InfoUSA, which i:
“one of the United States’ largest brokers of informationon consumers. Mr. Gupta, a major fund-raiser and benefactor for the Clintons who was nominated for ambassadorships by President Bill Clinton, was detailed in the Obama memo because his company outsources to India and he has vocally supported the practice.””
Then read the articles that appeal to you. I believe this is the best way to find out about issues. Everyone has their own agenda, and yours is undoubtedly different than mine.
Here are some links I have found helpful. I over 100 articles on my home computer, many of which have disappeared from the internet. If you need something specific, let me know and I’ll see what I have at home.
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This link:
Click to access memo1.pdf
is to a document that has been up for awhile. Unfortunately, some of the links no longer work (but they used to). During the Clinton campaign many articles about this issue “disappeared.” This occurred in close proximity to the reveletion of the Clintons’ involvement with the Norman Hsu scandal. But the links worked before that time.
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Thisis a link to a post I made at DU. It has many quotes and links in it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×5470049
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Finally, at my website, which is largely ignord by me (and I hope by others, too…it truly has been neglected in my quest to Save the World), but which I do post some things from time to time, are a few op-eds of mine with supporting documents.
The first of them starts at this point:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×5470049
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 9:06 PM
Oh, c’mon leave him alone…why feed him?
Amazon, thank you for addressing my own concerns regarding the political maneuvering of the Clinton’s. I have never been a large Clinton supporter, I was always sceptical regarding his administration, though not as educated regarding it and I definitely think he was a better choice than Bush “Sr.”.
You presented a very well thought out scenario and though I think that it was a good position to place her, it is highly regarded, she will be well received by other national leaders and will present a good photo-op for them to use politically in their own nations…and there was quite the call to recognize her from her own supporters and I think it was a large reach across that political divide in their own party. I do agree with the previous post by someone calling for Albright, I think she was a good Sec of State but I doubt she wanted the work involved, especially with everything happening now…you thought the Israel/Palestine situation is entertaining, I sure wouldn’t want to be the one attempting to referee the India/Pakistan situation or approach the piracy off the coast of Somalia or saber rattling of Russia or even try to patch up the Europe/United States rifts…
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By: Charles on December 5, 2008
at 9:03 PM
The Bush Depression™ ®2008
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas ~ ☮ on December 5, 2008
at 9:01 PM
Quote from abuck6
on December 5, 2008 at 11:20 am
“Hopefully, he won’t run it into the ground, but I’m not going to hold my breath.
TOO LATE. The BUSH DEPRESSION is in full swing and is sure to crash the economy no matter what ‘That One’ does. But we’ll try to straighten out the chaos. Figures…the white guy leaving a complete mess for the black guy to clean up. Typical.
☮Δ
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 5, 2008
at 8:57 PM
Actually, I think Abuck6 is actually the email writing “Greg from MN”. I refuse to believe there are two of those guys in MN.
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By: Kristy on December 5, 2008
at 8:55 PM
Hey Abuck6, You might consider moving to Georgia!
When I lived in the south, there was a saying which reminds me of Abuck6, “You remind me of a fly! You eat sh*t and bother people.”
Listen to Rush during your break at The Walmart.
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By: JuneauJoe on December 5, 2008
at 8:46 PM
Abuck6: There is probably a 5% difference (55/45) left vs. right.
I hate to be the one to tell you, but that’s a TEN percent difference. Blew your credibility out of the water, didn’t you?
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By: Martha on December 5, 2008
at 8:43 PM
Dear Abuck6 (aka MN Crazy). Your ranting, mean-spirited, cheap-shot insulting method of communication leads me to believe that I am not the only one in need of prayer, my friend. Get some counseling and stop embarrassing the rest of us from MN.
Kristy
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By: Kristy on December 5, 2008
at 8:29 PM
“That is why I count on Obama to make good on his promise of transparecy.
well, we know that wont be 100% possible, one particular area would be national security….
Why do I suspect that when Hillary and Obama met before she conceded the race for nominee he promised the position of SS? that is sort of gnawing at me…”
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I have confidence in Obama to make the right decisions. Everytime I have bitched about one of his decisions, it turned out he was right and I was way wrong. So I quit second-guessing him.
I don’t have faith in any “transparency.” But then, I never did have that expectation. I think a good politician doesn’t blag their intention all over the world before they are ready to move (sometimes, of course, it’s different). There is such complexity at level of government administration that, first of all, before we could even hope to understand it, he couldn’t be transpaent about most issues without having to first instruct us in the codes, laws, etc. that limit the options, and revealing his long-term plans and other secret plans.
No president has been really “transparent.” Even Jimmy Carter’s administration was not transparent.
Personally, my life is very complex and I don’t have the time to learn OBama’s job too before I can make an informed decision–and that is what it would take.
But even if I did expect trasparency in the Obama adminisration, I doubt I would get it. He does not like drama, gossip, negative back-biting, etc. He did not run his campaign in a transparent manner. Nor should he have. He plays his cards very close to his chest. This is a strength for him.
Based on how he has run his campaigns and how he was as a Senator, this is what I would expect would happen if he felt he had to fire Clinton (or anyone):
We would find out in a news conference after it had ocurred. Unless it was absolutely necessary, he would not go into detail aout why, and would not say anything negative about her unless he absolutely had to.
This is what I expect the Clintons would do, based on their past history:
Bill Clinton would call one of his puppet journalists and start by placing leaks and speculations that initially would probably be along the lines that “Hillary is unhappy with her position and may be looking elsewhere; this will be a blow to the Obama aministration, but:” and Bill would give a veiled implication that Hillary was going to quit because Obama was sexist and was treating her badly because she was a woman.
Of course, then the bitter Hillary supporters would slam the internet with the same BS they did during the Primary. Obama’s cred would be very tarnished by these accusations of sexism. Remember Hitler’s big lie theory? Any lie repeated often enough will be eventually thought by the people to be the truth.
OBama, being who he is, would not say publicly “I have never treated Hillary Clinton, or any woman, with anything but respect.” He wouldn’t want to inflame the drama, and he wouldn’t want to add any cred to Bill’s leaks.
Bill’s next leaks would be about” how many people around the world want her to be this Grande Title or that Le Grand Title. It is really hard to choose.”
We would later find out that no one had offered her any such grand titles.
Meanwhile, the Clintons would be doing their underground dirty work, contacting their own pet journalists.
Bill would appear on Fox and appear worried when Hannity asked, with a concern frown on his face, “Bill, How IS Hillary standing up to all of this sexist treatment?”
Bill would sigh, perhaps let a tear roll out of his eye, and say, “The hardest part of being Hillary’s husband is having to remain silent [SIGH] and let her fight her own battles. [SIGH] I want to help her, I’d like to punch him in the nose, but she inists on handling it herself [SIGH].”
I don’t need to go further because you will recognize the drill with even this much.
End result: It will be ALL about the Clintons, Hillary will be viewed as the victim, and Obama’s legacy will be damaged.
The next day Hillary will announce her run for president in 2012.
Whatever strides we are making in turning the country arround will have been, and will be, abandoned by the media because gossip articles about Bill and Hillary, and Obama isn’t such a nice guy, is he?, would be so much easier to produce, and the TV watching majority dolts would watch more frequently, increasing the viewership numbers.
Progress on healing our country would be slowed to a crawl, or stopped all together, as Obama is forced to start campaigning for reelection against someone who he gave a chance at redemption and who stabbed him in the back.
And we will be subjected to yet another 2 years of the “Bill and Hillary Show: The Box-of-Ferrets-Run Campaign 2012.”
See, this is the problem with counting o Obama’s ability to fire Clinton. With the honorable way he works, and the dishonorable way the Clintons work, Clinton would come out the King and Queen of Homecoming, and Obama would come out looking like slime.
But still, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on his choice of Hillary as SOS.
However, if it turns out right and he is wrong, I’m going to hang the biggest banner I can across the street from the WH, impinted, “I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE FRACKING WRONG.”
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 8:22 PM
Helen,
If we were both much younger and much more single I would chase you until you caught me.
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By: Gastel on December 5, 2008
at 7:52 PM
Wow this blog sure has attracted some nuts! Helen & Margaret, please don’t give up! The way Helen puts people in their place is so educational. And entertaining.
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By: 5% on December 5, 2008
at 7:47 PM
I have noticed how much like a forum Helen’s comments section have become…with her insight being the catalyst for conversation.
I sincerely enjoy the comments, perspectives, passion from people all over the country, continent, other continents…
A very cool kitchen you have Gramma Helen and her buddy Margaret!
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By: Charles on December 5, 2008
at 7:26 PM
“I. worship. you.
It’s good to see that someone out there is doing a good job at bullshit eliminating”
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It depends on who defines “bullshit.” On most message boards on the internet, your post would have been immediately deleted for using the word “bullshit.”
So how would you feel about them deleting what they felt was bullshit, based on their own abitrary standards, and it happened to be your post?
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 7:25 PM
Charles:
“December 5, 2008
at 12:17 am
Post had been moderated…and in limbo for quite awhile’ here I thought I was being silly and I ended up feeling like a troll.
Sadness sets in, depression…feeling of hatred bubbling from deep inside, I must be a conservative from Minnesota that snipes at poster’s husband’s pictures in small avatars.”
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Oh, Charles. [PAT, PAT, PAT]. Here, have a piece of pie and, if you’re lucky, I’ll throw in a wedgie, too. 🙂
Matthew explained that it sometimes takes awhile for him to get to the auto-botted posts.
But I know what you mean. We are lucky here, though. In an internet full of boards with very fascist and agenda-driven moderators, this is truly a safe haven. I have not felt this kind of posting freedom in a blog with so many thoughtful and insightful (and funny) posters in years….since my old days as a mod for the old ACLU boards, in fact, which was a free-speech environment.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 7:23 PM
Δ skyewriter (12/5 at 6:43pm):
I don’t even read the Abuck6 posts…. soon as I see the name, I go into auto-scroll mode.
I give M&H (and Matthew) credit for NOT filtering. The sites and blogs that censor replies tend to always be narrow little wind tunnels. Just scroll past Abuck6 and don’t give him even a moment of your thoughts.
Δ Maven
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By: Maven Δ on December 5, 2008
at 7:20 PM
December 5, 2008
at 12:17 am
Post had been moderated…and in limbo for quite awhile’ here I thought I was being silly and I ended up feeling like a troll.
Sadness sets in, depression…feeling of hatred bubbling from deep inside, I must be a conservative from Minnesota that snipes at poster’s husband’s pictures in small avatars.
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By: Charles on December 5, 2008
at 7:14 PM
I. worship. you.
It’s good to see that someone out there is doing a good job at bullshit eliminating.
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By: goldnsilver on December 5, 2008
at 7:11 PM
“When folks start believing that God gives them superpowers over others, well… that just leads to trouble.”
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Amen! 🙂
I think Im going to have to start using that quote.
quoting PA “……By the time he would feel he had sufficient reasons to fire her, they could already done great damage to Obama’s legacy, chances for election, and to our nation’s recovery.”
You make a great point, thing is, if Hillary did any damage to the country I would think that would reflect on her and hurt her chance to run for president.
That is why I count on Obama to make good on his promise of transparecy.
well, we know that wont be 100% possible, one particular area would be national security….
Why do I suspect that when Hillary and Obama met before she conceded the race for nominee he promised the position of SS? that is sort of gnawing at me.
quoting PA “Remember, the Clintons heavily invested in an Indian country which specializes in outsourcing Amercan jobs to India, and vigorously worked to facilitate that. In fact, Hillary bragged (in public) in India that she would deliver the rest of the Senate Democrats to support a bill that would increase the number of guestworker visas for India.”
Yes, that truly blows, there have been good and terrible bads because of those decisions 😦
Can you tell us how the Clinton’s gained? Im sorry but that is not my ‘expertise’ I liked the Clinton presidency, gained from it. Im a realist, dont expect perfection from anyone but tend to look at the over all picture, and over all the country was doing pretty good with Clinton.
I am always willing to learn.
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By: PalinShutUp on December 5, 2008
at 7:03 PM
I love this.
LOVE.
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By: Bailey on December 5, 2008
at 7:02 PM
I love you Helen!
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By: Julie on December 5, 2008
at 6:57 PM
Why does negative Abuck6
*stifling gag reflex*
get through the filter and not some others who are much less antagonistic?
Helen and Matt, I present a motion to ban that asshat on the grounds that a) he/she is not contributing anything constructive to this ongoing dialogue. And b) he/she went so far as to insult my HUSBAND who’s pic is in my avatar– he doesn’t even POST here and yet, even he was attacked.
Can I get a second on that motion from anyone?
Peace to all my fellow wedgies.
Δ skyewriter
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By: skyewriter on December 5, 2008
at 6:43 PM
Your quotation ( “…12th Calvary…”) from the Cleland citation may not have been accurate, but I fear it was.
Surely someone in the Army remembers cavalry, regardless of whether our President-for -the- Moment can pronounce or spell it. Think so?
Thanks.
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By: J P Hogan on December 5, 2008
at 6:20 PM
Helen,
I follow your posts and enjoy them thoroughly. I am a few years behind you, but more than once have been called a tough old bird. Keep it up! Call it as you see it. Just because we have a few years under the belt DOES NOT mean we are senile and sentenced to a life of jello and soft food. Honey, if I had a dime for everytime I spoke my mind, I wouldn’t know what to do with all the money. NOW…for all you right wing nit-wits, for all our sakes, please be quite for two seconds and give our President elect a chance. Lord knows he can’t screw up any worse than Shrub. Helen, all this emailing and posting you do seems like a hell of a lot of work. I learned a long time ago to breathe deep, take a Valium if you need to, but don’t get so worked up that you give yourself a stroke over Palin or the bunches of looney toons who stick on her every word. All my best to you.
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By: Georgia on December 5, 2008
at 5:20 PM
I’m with Bett who spit out his coffee six times, laughing along with you, I presume. As they “say,” three snaps!
I guess Greg from MN doesn’t care that finally, for the first time in eight years, we elected the smartest guy in the room. His underwear probably chafes when he considers that the last time we did that was when we elected Bill Clinton.
Anyone, including a self-described reformed drinker, can sit down with Greg to have a brew. But personally, I don’t want “anyone” for President. I want someone who is smarter than me, listens to opinions that aren’t necessarily his own, makes informed decisions, accepts responsibility for those decisions, abides by the Constitution and handles a job that most of us, in our right minds, wouldn’t want for anything.
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By: K2inSR on December 5, 2008
at 3:41 PM
Political Amazon,
A ‘Wedgie’, Δ , is just a short-hand symbol for a piece of pie.
☮Δ
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 5, 2008
at 3:29 PM
Dear Not-that-Greg-from-MN:
Unfortunate that That-Greg-from-MN made such an asshat of himself right before you signed on.
I think it will be easy to tell you from That-Greg-from-MN. Just don’t make an asshat of yourself, and it will be a snap to remember you are Not-That-Greg-from-MN.
Mainly, don’t insult Helen and don’t just spew propaganda talking-points. I think even the most regular of the regulars here would forgive almost anything but insults to Helen, and we are just so tired of bullshit rightwinger talking points and the idiots that spew them, our tolrance for programmed parrots that can type has been worn down.
So, welcome. If someone hasn’t offered you pie let, let me be the first to do so. I can also offer you a cyber-wedgie if you like. Wedgies seem to be popular here, too.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 2:52 PM
“Political Amazon, Im sure Obama chose Clinton because their agendas were very similar but Im sure he will keep her on a short leash, besides, isnt he the boss? cant he fire her if she does not perform as expected?”
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I question whether ANYONE would be able to control the Clintons if the Clintons were focused on a desirable goal–such as Hillary in the WH in 2012–and that person was in the way, or they could use that person to facilitate their own agenda, even if it undermined the vision, reputation, and anything else, of the one attempting to do the controlling.
By the time he would feel he had sufficient reasons to fire her, they could already done great damage to Obama’s legacy, chances for election, and to our nation’s recovery.
Remember, the Clintons heavily invested in an Indian country which specializes in outsourcing Amercan jobs to India, and vigorously worked to facilitate that. In fact, Hillary bragged (in public) in India that she would deliver the rest of the Senate Democrats to support a bill that would increase the number of guestworker visas for India.
Clearly, this was against the best interests of our country. They thrrew the American worker under the bus for their own financial gain.
My dream choice for SOS is Madeline Albright. I wish Obama would order her back into service and make her SOS. She is, IMO, the best SOS in my lifetime.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 2:30 PM
different Greg, not the one noted in the post, thank goodness.
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By: Greg on December 5, 2008
at 1:54 PM
Brilliant piece of writing.
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By: Greg on December 5, 2008
at 1:53 PM
Screwed up again. Note to self: always proofread. Being in a rush is no excuse!
Replace “Margaret” with “Margaret and Helen”.
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By: freD on December 5, 2008
at 1:41 PM
To anybody following yesterdays “freD”,
A few days ago I was scanning moderate political commentary blogs, and one of the writers recommended Margaret and Helen as a great fun blog. So I read, laughed, went to the comments and found that a wingnut attack appeared to be under way. How rude!
Normally I lurk a bit to get a feel for new places but was compelled to jump in. Margaret’s style reminds me of my great aunt, who was spunky well into her 90’s (and for any hillarysvillagers, was an outstanding woman who always came out stronger after the many adversities she had to face, and would never have voted for Palin just to spite men).
Anyways, I ignored that fact that “normal WordPress systems are in place”. After I made my silly comment @ Dec3, 4:29pm, my subsequent posts @ Dec 3, 7:17pm and @ Dec 3, 11:21pm were held up in moderation for several hours. Had I been paying more attention, I would have known better what gets netted by the software, and that the moderator has a full life already. Whoops… and I apologize once again.
Anyways, in line with my other posts: I’m still fascinated by people who, armed only with a sense of entitlement and good looks, believe they’re qualified to lead the world – almost as fascinated as I am by the fools who follow them. I liked Billy Grahams non-partisan attitude towards politics – that the material and the spiritual are best kept as separate entities (my own belief is that it may be impossible to get to the spiritual thru the material) and one should vote for the guy who you think will do the best job. When folks start believing that God gives them superpowers over others, well… that just leads to trouble.
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By: freD on December 5, 2008
at 1:39 PM
Δ
I was hoping this would catch on. It’s the symbol for Delta {A triangular area of very fertile land at the mouth of a river}. I think it defines this blog perfectly.
Margret and Helen ~ Piece of Pie Club.
“I’m a Wedgie” / M&H PoPC 2008®
~ PEACE ~
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 5, 2008
at 1:17 PM
I find it funny for Greg to say that you have “no right” to criticize Sarah Palin.
Really? No right? To criticize a public official? Someone who may have become Vice President of the United States?? WTF?
Sorry Greg, free speech applies even to opinions you don’t like. I even think that you have the right to send all the jabbering, poorly researched e-mails to as many people as you like.
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By: Danyell on December 5, 2008
at 1:09 PM
Helen…. you never fail to make me laugh OUT LOUD. Impressive post. Hope greg and all the people just like him can read it.
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By: Wo of PDX on December 5, 2008
at 1:08 PM
Helen you are da’ bomb!
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By: Curlydog on December 5, 2008
at 12:47 PM
Thanks, Δ Maven.
Cheers!
Δ skyewriter
(I can’t change how my screen name appears to the left there, but I at least have the symbol now.)
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By: skyewriter on December 5, 2008
at 12:43 PM
oh, and I almost forgot skyewriter… being a wedgie is FAR preferable to being a dittohead.
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By: Δ Maven on December 5, 2008
at 12:25 PM
skywriter: I had to cut-and-paste the symbol from peas’ post…
Δ
here’s a wedgie from a fellow wedgie.
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By: Δ Maven on December 5, 2008
at 12:24 PM
I could never have predicted I would ever write these words, but, here goes.
Whirled Peas: may I please have a wedgie?
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By: skyewriter on December 5, 2008
at 11:45 AM
I’m from MN as well and it’s pretty well known that our state leans left. There is probably a 5% difference (55/45) left vs. right. Like Kristy stated, many in MN love Obama, Love idiots like Franken, Love idiots like Ventura, Love idiots like Klobuchar, and Love idiots like Lori Swanson and they still love idiots like Wellstone!
We also live in one of the biggest welfare states in the country! We also pay some of the highest taxes of any state!
Kristy, we conservatives in MN should be the ones ashamed of sharing our great state with crazy libs like yourself! Look at the clowns that you’ve voted for! Facts are facts and you clearly stated which side you are on…I’ll pray for you.
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By: abuck6 on December 5, 2008
at 11:39 AM
Helen:
Oh Lord – my name, too, is Greg, and I am also from MN! Please don’t hold that against me! What an idiot that man is! As I was reading your latest entry, I chuckled out loud at my desk, as always – one of my coworkers asked what was funny, I sent her the link.
Please keep up the great work. Please consider a position with a network as an analyst – you make more sense than 90% of the highly-paid people doing it now!
Greg (not THAT Greg) in MN (BLUE STATE)
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By: Greg M on December 5, 2008
at 11:35 AM
I keep telling myself that I’m through with SP, but here goes.
I’m not worried about her because she’s ignorant; ignorance can be remedied.
I’m worried about her because she lacks intellectual curiosity. That CAN”T be remedied.
To get to her age without having shown any interest in learning some basic things about the rest of the world is a terrible quality in a potential leader. Actually, it’s not that great a quality in anyone, but that’s beside the point.
Now, it’s past time for my elevenses. Where’s the pie?
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By: Martha on December 5, 2008
at 11:33 AM
You idiots make me laugh! You raise questions about the right, but not the left. You praise a man that has accomplished nothing (Obama), yet you smear another person with some accomplishments (Palin).
Obama sucks! I’m not buying into this iconic image that he and the liberal left have created! Take a step back and look at him over the last 2 years and see how he’s been transformed into something that he’s not and never will be. He’ll never even be as good as Clinton was…and those are just modest expectations!
“Look….dah dah dah…Change…dah dah dah…2 points…dah dah dah…last 8 years…dah dah dah…look…Change…Big Oil…ahh ahh ahh…Spread the wealth…ahhhhhhhhhh…Yes we can”! Hearing that for the next 4 years will get old real fast! I hope that he gets picked apart and criticized like the Presidents before have! Unfortunately, he may get a free pass since he has been declared “The Chosen One”…I didn’t choose him and I know that Millions of other Americans didn’t choose this Socialist pig to run our country! Hopefully, he won’t run it into the ground, but I’m not going to hold my breath.
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By: abuck6 on December 5, 2008
at 11:20 AM
Must. Write. Book! Also – should consider putting ads on your site and start making money off of the brilliance that you write.
Someday I hope to be a Grandma as awesome as you. My kids are three and one.
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By: Katie Forte on December 5, 2008
at 11:09 AM
“Fortunately your disrespectful ad-homenem attacks on Gov. Palin are only that. Calling a person ignorant doesn’t make one ignorant, nor does the lack of speaking prowess or the occaisonal verbal faux pas. If the latter was the case, we haven’t had a smart president….ever! I’ve read a few posts now, and every once in a while I see a disagreement with issues….fine. But alas it’s laced with an abundance personal attacks….which makes me think…it’s not too late for you to go into politics.”
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Do you know what an “ad hominem” attack is?
An ad hominem attack is where, for instance, I would tell other posters here “Don’t believe anything that this poster writes because he is a Palin supporter.”
You are correct: calling a person “ignorant” doesn’t make them ignorant. I don’t think Helen would have called Palin ignorant if Palin had not already proven herself that she, Sarah Palin, is ignorant.
She has also proven she is a liar, unethical, a coward, and narcissistic.
Me calling her these things are not ad hominem attacks…it is Sarah Palin herself who has proven she is those things.
To state a fact, “Sarah Palin is unethical,” is not a personal attack. It is stating a fact. She has lied and, because she’s not very bright, these lies are very obvious.
In addition, what Palin does when she speaks is not just a “faux pax here and there.” Every time she speaks she commits so many errors–and I’m not even talking grammatical errors–that you can hardly understand what she is saying. She relies on stringing together jingoistic sound bytes because that is all it takes to keep her gullible supporters enthralled with her.
You may wish to ignore these things about Sarah Palin and continue to support her, but you are dishonest when you try to cast legitimate criticisms of Palin as “ad hominem” statements and “personal attacks.” You are dishonest when you try to reframe reality by implying that Palin’s inability to speak a logical sentence is just “faux pas here and there.”
You’ve come to the wrong board if reframing history to flatter Sarah Palin is your goal.
We are not the gullible dolts you may be used to dealing with in fellow Palin supporters, and we will call you on your bullshit when you spew it.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 10:39 AM
Oh man! Did you have to mention Greg-the-Moron’s home state? I’m from MN and I loathe the fact that idiots like Greg share it with me. The majority of Minnesotans despise people like Greg, love Obama, and absolutely ADORE YOU HELEN! Keep up the good, feisty, brilliant fight. And if I run into Greg, I’ll clock him for you. 🙂
Kristy from Minnesota
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By: Kristy on December 5, 2008
at 10:11 AM
You said, ” When Sarah Palin looked in the mirror I imagine she see saw a bitch. But that is just a guess on my part. She might not have looked.”
This is the only part of your blog that I disagree with. I don’t think Palin is capable of passing by a mirror without looking at it. Probably for too long.
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By: mary on December 5, 2008
at 9:14 AM
keep up the great work Helen your a legend
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By: Liesl on December 5, 2008
at 8:27 AM
The level of delusion here is UNBELIEVABLE
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By: Carol on December 5, 2008
at 8:21 AM
Good morning all. Good to see M&H still rolling along.
Quoted ~ johnfaber on December 4, 2008
at 9:00 pm
I think we get the point that you hate Sarah Palin. And if half the quotes attributed to her by the folks on your side of the aisle were genuine, you might have a point.
The trouble is that you don’t seem to be clear on the point that Sarah and Tina Fey are two different people.
Malice is a poor substitute for research.
Sometime it’s hard to tell where Tina stops and ‘Bullwinkie’ starts:
“Katie, I’d like to phone a friend.” ~ Tina Fey
Δ…can I have some pie now?
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 5, 2008
at 8:13 AM
I found your blog through a Google Alert on Palin I think. I know, I know..why would I want an alert for her. I’m a masochist? This is the most refreshing read I’ve had in a long time. You’re now at the top of my favorites list. Thank you Helen !!!
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By: la mia verita on December 5, 2008
at 6:36 AM
Please, don’t stop!
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By: Julie on December 5, 2008
at 6:14 AM
anon @10:04 PM
“Many of you may find this article regarding the differences in the brains of liberals and conservatives. In short, the brains of liberals are better able to handle ambiguity and conflict, incorporating new information into their existing schema. Conservatives brains respond in a more structured and persistent manner. Hence, the dogged desire to “stay the course.” ‘
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Thank you anon and Political Amazon.
Glad to see study being done in this area. Have come to feel ,over the years, that there was some kind of normal, regularly distributed difference that accounts for the way GENERIC liberal and conservative human thought and behavior diverges.
I think there are adaptive strengths on both sides and don’t see that one or the other is better for us as a species.
On a cultural level, we tend to see shifts to or away from one style or other over time.When some kind of healthy balance is maintained we see the value of each..
PA-
I have just spent an half hour digging through my bookshelves trying to find a book on the Philosophy of Science in which the writer establishes similar attributes as this study did and names them “The Reason of Plato” and the “Reason of Ulysses”
If I can root it out , the fellow had some great ideas on hows and whys of how folks swallow change/or not in relation to science/technological advances that track with some of what you are saying about political shifts. I CAN’T remember the author’s name I am so tired tonight… will keep looking…
Ah freD!
Glad to see you back! Not a mere trollie smiter either…
Wordsmith works wonders wrestling wacky worldview !
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By: Alaska Pi on December 5, 2008
at 2:28 AM
Political Amazon: Alaska has a whole state community looking for our idiot! (Last time we saw her, she was muttering something sweet into turkeys ears before they met their maker.” I am lookiing for my ‘Where’s Sarah’ button.
Amazon: You have great posts: Please keep it up.
I like Hillary, she is a brilliant lady. We need smart in and around the White House after idiot and friends.
Here is a smart video about immigration issues.
douglaskev, this came from your site. Thanks and welcome.
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By: JuneauJoe on December 5, 2008
at 1:58 AM
helen, you would DUST palin in a debate. you’d just chew her up and spit her out. and you wouldn’t even have to wink.
if you weren’t writing a column for your local paper before you retired, you missed your calling.
keep fighting the Good Fight for your kids, grandkids, and all of us. we’ve got your back!
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By: JBDC on December 5, 2008
at 1:55 AM
“Many of you may find this article regarding the differences in the brains of liberals and conservatives. In short, the brains of liberals are better able to handle ambiguity and conflict, incorporating new information into their existing schema. Conservatives brains respond in a more structured and persistent manner. Hence, the dogged desire to “stay the course.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center”
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What is interesting is that the strengths of each group (liberals and conservatives) are necessary components for any species to survive.
It’s very tempting when one group has so thoroughly fracked up the government to say “Oh, that’s a bad trait and we can’t have it again in our government, ever.”
The truth is that our country operates best when it is in between the extreme points of the arc that swings between Liberal and Conservative.
My fear: Bush Jr and his toady GOP Congress have so fracked up our country that people are now going to think that we can’t have ANY conservative mindset in our country.
That would be wrong, because, not only does America work best in a moderated, evenly balanced government environment–we have also seen that when one Party gets control of the entire government shebang, it shifts to far to their side, and then there is this reaction to try to correct the extreme position.
What the GOP is experiencing now? That’s the attempt to try to correct the conservative extremes of the Bush Jr administration.
We have to learn not to replicate that mistake. We have to be very wary of shifting our government too far to the liberal side, because, the voters, as a clueless but somehow unified organism, will vote to shift the balance back to the midline.
And that is the ONLY good reason I can find to keep my mouth shut about Hillary Clnton as SOS.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 1:44 AM
“I just checked….Palin is still an idiot…….”
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What a coincidence. The Village of Wasillia is looking for their Village Idiot.
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By: Political Amazon on December 5, 2008
at 1:36 AM
love your post.
love your blog.
love your enthusiasm- it gives me hope that i won’t become bitter, cynical, and disinterested as i age.
keep it comin!
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By: douglaskev on December 5, 2008
at 1:20 AM
Proposition 8, The Musical
This is great!
Even johnfaber, our new unfair and unbalanced friend will like it!
I keep looking but still finding: Sarah Palin is still an idiot! It becomes more and more obvious!
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By: JuneauJoe on December 5, 2008
at 1:08 AM
http://www.palincomparisonblog.com/default.html
Amusing…and to show that we left-leaning haters have no sense of humor:
http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/12/02/the-daily-show-msnbc-is-the-new-fox-news/
Lies, Lies I tell you!!!
Disclaimer: The last sentence of this post was meant as satire, parody and other high faluffin’ French sounding words. You cannot trust the French, I remember watching “Monty Python and the Holy Grail” and they are quite rude and very insulting. In fact I wouldn’t doubt that the Statue of Liberty was actually a White Elelphant gift after a garage sale and they are still laughing at us for not gifting it forward. Not to mention Jean Paul Sartre and that entire ungodly Existentialism in fact the French Revolution was based on materialism not theology and Marie Antoinette is credited with saying “Let them eat cake” not pie, and everyone knows pie is American, not cake…besides that whole egaltarian, liberty, brotherhood quote from the French Revolution sound an awful lot like a precursor to Marxiam and even though Marx wasn’t French we know Obama is a Marxist so maybe he is French which is why he can’t be President…besides that DeGaulle guy was kinda funny looking and …
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By: Charles on December 5, 2008
at 12:17 AM
JohnFarber,
We don’t “hate” Sarah Palin. We think she’s stupid and unqualified for national office. She earned our opinion through her ridiculous public statements, by which she demonstrated beyond doubt that she is both abysmally ignorant (which perhaps could be remedied through study) and brimming with self-satisfaction and arrogance (which guarantees she won’t bother to study).
Add to that her hate-mongering tactics during the campaign, and she has proven herself to be beneath contempt.
But no, we don’t “hate” her. Why is it that so many refundypublicans can’t tell the difference between a considered judgment and a reactionary kneejerk?
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By: Leigh in Austin on December 5, 2008
at 12:08 AM
Here is he Michael Moore discussion about the auto bailout. It to place on Olberman.
It is too bad that a discusson and reasoned approach was not taken with the banks too.
http://news.muckety.com/2008/12/04/michael-moore-defends-the-car-guys-sort-of/7891
I just looked and I must agree. Sarah Palin is still an idiot! Palin needs to be on Dancing With Stars or Big Brother or something to take care of her need for attention.
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By: JuneauJoe on December 4, 2008
at 11:53 PM
I just checked….Palin is still an idiot…….
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By: Kelly on December 4, 2008
at 11:47 PM
“I’m currently of the belief that more competent government is needed during difficult times, but more government is usually neither needed or wanted during good times. There is no all-around best-fit for all-people all-the-time government, as many ideological believers suggest. The best type and amount of government is probably contextually relative to the times and culture.”
Bravo, freD-eloquently and succinctly said. Perhaps we would be better off if we were Pragmatists…
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By: CO Almost Native on December 4, 2008
at 11:35 PM
Helen, you are my hero. Keep on telling it like it is!
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By: cindy on December 4, 2008
at 11:17 PM
Helen,
Hats off to you!! Great post as usual.
You are sublime and one in a million….
Someone needs to give you a book contract.
I want the whole world to read you…..
Really. I mean it.
🙂
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By: Suzie on December 4, 2008
at 11:09 PM
Helen,
The Goddess has a special place in society for old crones and hags. Biting the asses of young idiots is but one of them.
In the words of Billy S., “Well said, Old mole”.
The “Something rotten in Denmark” is the miasma of dead brain cells and dendrites melting down around Greg’s feet.
Poor thing.
Blessings,
Dina Kerik
Another Old Mole
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By: Dina Kerik on December 4, 2008
at 11:07 PM
As a mother, grandmother, and quilter (love the quilt block icons!): bless you.
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By: JustJen on December 4, 2008
at 10:26 PM
“I think we get the point that you hate Sarah Palin. And if half the quotes attributed to her by the folks on your side of the aisle were genuine, you might have a point.
The trouble is that you don’t seem to be clear on the point that Sarah and Tina Fey are two different people.
Malice is a poor substitute for research.”
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Your attempt to cast legitimate criticism as “hate” is duly noted as a logical fallacy and an indication that you do not have a valid defense to make for Palin.
Please don’t challenge us to load up M&H’s blog site with the many, many, MANY moronic spewings of Bible Spice, aka Sarah Palin.
WE already know she’s an asshat. We get tired providing proof of it to gullible dolts who are not educated enough to recognize propaganda and bullshit when it comes from a politician’s mouth.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 10:18 PM
Many of you may find this article regarding the differences in the brains of liberals and conservatives. In short, the brains of liberals are better able to handle ambiguity and conflict, incorporating new information into their existing schema. Conservatives brains respond in a more structured and persistent manner. Hence, the dogged desire to “stay the course.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center
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By: anonymous on December 4, 2008
at 10:04 PM
[…] and my favourite sweet little old lady ::cough:: lays an almighty smackdown on an ignorant ageist bigot. Madam, I do adore you […]
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By: Ann Somerville’s Journal » Blog Archive » Sublimely on December 4, 2008
at 9:46 PM
johnfaber
Listening to Rush and Hannity is a very poor lack of research. You need to watch more of Sarah Palin interviews and then scratch your head to say, “What did she try to say?”
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By: JuneauJoe on December 4, 2008
at 9:38 PM
from johnfaber @ 9PM I think we get the point that you hate Sarah Palin. And if half the quotes attributed to her by the folks on your side of the aisle were genuine, you might have a point.
Citations, please. If we’re quoting Tina Fey (who must be thanking the good lord everyday for the good fortune John McCain handed her) and not SP we want to correct ourselves.
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By: Martha on December 4, 2008
at 9:18 PM
Oh Helen, your wit and wisdom is always appreciated. Unlike that Alaskan snow bunny, Sarah Palin, who sounds like a trainwreck, every time she opens her mouth.
For more deliciously fun tidbits on the state of things:
http://democralypsenow.blogspot.com/
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By: wickedlittledoll on December 4, 2008
at 9:14 PM
I think we get the point that you hate Sarah Palin. And if half the quotes attributed to her by the folks on your side of the aisle were genuine, you might have a point.
The trouble is that you don’t seem to be clear on the point that Sarah and Tina Fey are two different people.
Malice is a poor substitute for research.
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By: johnfaber on December 4, 2008
at 9:00 PM
Helen,
How you maintain your composure, grammar and punctuation when responding to the likes of Greg the Amazing Mental Midget is beyond me. I am in awe of your ability to respond with such articulation. Over the last eight years I have grown so frustrated, disgusted and short tempered with the likes of the Gregs in our country that I just short circuit. (My written response would amounted to simply slamming my head against my keyboard and hitting ‘send’.)
Thank you for being such a beacon of straight talk (the REAL kind, not the McCain variety) and of common sense. There’s a national shortage of both these days.
Love you bad!!
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By: v. y. on December 4, 2008
at 8:57 PM
[…] Co. rally Monday. And this week, two cute old lady bloggers analyze her (and Max Cleland) in a post called “Sarah Palin’s accomplishments are greater because she did it with half a […]
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By: Mise en scene « live apartment fire on December 4, 2008
at 8:37 PM
Thank you, keystonelemur (December 4, 2008 at 6:19 pm)!!
Nice to have a rational dissenter visit and express themselves in such a polite and eloquent way!
This way-left Liberal (Me) wishes that more conservative-leaners would be so open-minded as to think that maybe Obama is NOT automatically the worst thing for our nation and are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt to start out.
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By: dyricci on December 4, 2008
at 8:34 PM
Helen ~ again you took the words out of my mouth. I’m going to print you out for my 81 year old mother to read. She’ll love you too.
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By: Sarah on December 4, 2008
at 8:29 PM
[…] OK – first for all you “old folks” who think blogging is for some younger generation – please, please read this blog and note that it is written by one Helen Philpot who is 82 years old and lives in Texas – yeah a […]
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By: Blog this, grandma! « on December 4, 2008
at 7:58 PM
Ooops…Now I wonder where that last case of whoop ass went.
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By: mary on December 4, 2008
at 7:53 PM
Whirledpeas? Thanks for providing a fellow-wedgie the icon.
(I had to cut-and-paste it from your response because I don’t know how to add symbols.)
Pie, anyone?
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By: Maven Δ on December 4, 2008
at 7:34 PM
“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.”
– Winston Churchill
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By: Marvelous Studio on December 4, 2008
at 7:32 PM
I can only hope you live to 135! We may still need your voice, but at least you have enlightened several thousand this year. I love your blog!
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By: Jeanne Rhea on December 4, 2008
at 7:16 PM
JohnnyPeeprs there are several things wrong in your post. First and foremost, SP is not in Alaska. Second she makes herself news not the other way around. She demands attention from the media because she loves the attention. Heck, she probably even loves this blog as it keeps her name in play.
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By: Kat on December 4, 2008
at 7:01 PM
Keep on blogging ol’ girl, you’re absolutely priceless!
Hazelnut.
(UK)
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By: Hazelnut on December 4, 2008
at 6:46 PM
I love you. That’s all there is to say.
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By: rickandreoli on December 4, 2008
at 6:33 PM
Somebody above shared this quote:
“I can’t overstate the impact [Palin] had down here,” Chambliss said during an interview Wednesday morning on Fox News. “When she walks in a room, folks just explode,” he added.
….and all those creepy Georgia good old boys had to go home and explain to their wives the *mess* in their pants….
Ah Sarah, the brunette alternative to Coulter for Repubs to fantasize about.
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By: Maven on December 4, 2008
at 6:30 PM
I hope this is your last attack on Mrs. Sarah. She is safe at home in Alaska representing her constituents, mothering her children, and loving her handsome husband. I know she isn’t the brightest or most studied politician, but she restored hope and faith in the Republican party to so many of us Conservatives. Bless you and your wonderful blog 🙂
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By: Johnny Peepers on December 4, 2008
at 6:20 PM
Not particularly one for bias but I must say Obama could get away with a quarter of a brain if he still had that speaking ability of his. No this isn’t an insult, I’m saying the man has one heck of a way with words.
Now I don’t necessarily support Obamas views on things such as abortion and economics but I’m not going to be like half my party and start some witch hunt.
I say give Obama a chance for now, clean slate, let him be judged by his time in office, not his past. Just hope for the best and see what happens.
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By: keystonelemur on December 4, 2008
at 6:19 PM
FreD:
Through experience, most of us “liberals” understand that those on the ultra-right generally don’t understand or use satire. Thus most of us read and dismissed your first post as ‘troll-speak’.
(example: Stephen Colbert’s own pronunciation of his then new show “The Colberrrr Reporrrrr”, which truly got Bill O’Reilly’s shorts in a knot because of the fake French pronunciation.)
Now I’m starting to get a headache worrying about whether more of the vile-spewing nonsensical posts we read is for real – or is actually “clever” satire.
I think I’ll log off and go rake leaves!
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By: cyrano on December 4, 2008
at 6:17 PM
Palinshutup: excellent post!
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By: troutay on December 4, 2008
at 6:01 PM
Love your blog and couldn’t agree with you more. Keep it coming!!
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By: Anne on December 4, 2008
at 5:58 PM
I thought sooner or later someone would come by banging on the ‘conservative’ drum.
You want history sn?
I was raised by two conservative Republicans, my view of conservatives is not the Bush presidency. Ive read up a bit about conservatism in the United States This is what I have picked up along the way.
Conservatism has in fact been taken over the last 15 years or so, abused by neoconservative recklessness, led into a rival form of religious, political fundamentalism which has resulted in the loss of constitutional freedoms in this country.
The past 8 years have slipped as far from traditional conservatism with emphasis on heavy government spending without commensurate taxation, unconscionable expansion of executive power at the expense of other branches of government and against the U.S. Constitution, as well as putting religious ideas in the place of reasonable, skeptical inquiry.
The outrage and atrocity of Sept 11 blinded many of us, and understandably so, but we had a president who should not have led this country into the precipice of fear.
The founders of the American constitution were well aware of the dangers of religious fundamentalism allied to government power, hence the First Amendment.
The tripartite goal of the American founding was “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” They did not write, “the pursuit of virtue or the pursuit of morality”
Americans insisted on freedom first.
The lurch toward George W. Bush’s theocracy violates the foundations of conservatism. Tax cuts were simply a matter of faith, and accompanied a staggering expansion of government power and spending which increased by an astonishing 38 percent since 2000 resulting in a bankrupting of the American government so that by the end of one term, President Bush had more than doubled the US Government’s future spending commitments to $43.3 trillion with absolutely no way to finance it.
Fast forward to 2008 and you have proof that Bush is not a true conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
There is more to life than politics but the best form of politics is that which enables us to engage in nonpolitical life more fully and more freely.
btw, these are the figures from 2 years ago, before the dems were in control of the house, you know, the same Dems that are now blamed for the economy today?
Middle-Class Life Under Bush Republicans: Less Affordable and Less Secure
http://dpc.senate.gov/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=fs-109-2-109
today’s conservative lesson ends.
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By: PalinShutUp on December 4, 2008
at 5:56 PM
“Mister Write”–
It would appear that most of the THOUSANDS of readers here at Helen’s blog seem to think her comments are entertaining, intelligent, perceptive, and to-the-point. Maybe you noticed that she has quite a following. We are guests in her virtual parlor, where she graciously offers us her virtual pie and visits with us.
Instead of tolerating bullies, Helen just calls “bullshit” when she sees it. If you need to see what nasty is, check out O’Reilly, Coulter, Palin, etal.
Your comments make me wonder if you are Mister Wrong for Helen’s “left-leaning” conversation.
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By: Elsie on December 4, 2008
at 5:54 PM
Political Amazon, Im sure Obama chose Clinton because their agendas were very similar but Im sure he will keep her on a short leash, besides, isnt he the boss? cant he fire her if she does not perform as expected?
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By: PalinShutUp on December 4, 2008
at 5:42 PM
” Boy, you left-leaning people can be nasty. No wonder we have such partisan politics. Lighten up, we’re all in this mess together.”
Yeah, you are right, Mister Write! How dare any of us express an opinion, get insulted for having that opinion, and then speak up for ourselves! The nerve! And yes, we are all in this mess together, unless, of course, you are a corporate CEO, someone with scads of money or influence, or a Republican. We are so sorry we took offense to you and your ilk belittling and degrading us for having a differing opinion from yours! How rude of us to take offense at how the Republicans have hamstrung Habeas Corpus, eroded Civil Rights, trashed the environment, etc., etc.
Really, what were we thinking!?!?
Ever since McCarthy, although he was a Democrat and an extremely Right Wing one at that, the politics of this country have been becoming more and more vicious and partisan, and since the Republicans sold their soul to the religious fundnuts, it has become a holy war. You don’t like the extremes of today’s politics, then clean your own house first!
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By: MirrorMan on December 4, 2008
at 5:39 PM
Sadly, no matter what you say, facts and all, their is no chance this makes a difference with Greg… or any of the Gregs. What’s the saying? Before the truth can put its pants on, a lie is halfway around the world…
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By: skaemporium on December 4, 2008
at 5:37 PM
my angry face has been laughing in the mirror since Nov 4 😀
waving at Matthew, I think Helen is the best thing since apple pie, thank you for sharing her with us.
benjaminvallen1 go back to your rock, you just wish you had the guts and gift to say it like her
btw, in case you forgot or maybe live in a dictatorship, this is a free country, thanks to Obama we will be able to have our constitution back
WOOHOO!!!
ps Political Amazon I agree with you completely with post December 4, 2008 at 10:21 am, do not take your eyes away from Palin or the Clintons. I wanted Hillary for Pres because of her life work till I heard Obama speak in 06, at the beginning of the campaign I was torn between the two but then I began to see Hillary’s true colors and viciousness and this ‘elect a woman, any woman’ credo I kept hearing as a woman I find it insulting
Palin is a cartoon, there is no one home. Let them prep her to run for President, I personally cant wait till 2012 I hope I live that long to see it.
“Not only did she do it with half a brain, but just like Ginger Rogers, she did it backwards and in high heels. I would love to have here as the SECOND woman governor of NH. Please ladies, stop confusing eloquence with wisdom.”
Jim_NH, thanks for the laughs, I just picked myself off the floor! BWAAHAAAA!!!
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By: PalinShutUp on December 4, 2008
at 5:36 PM
“Perhaps we can get back to the real, accurate definition of a Liberal: one who is in favor of limited government, but government for the benefit of all citizens, and one who is in favor of limited government interference into the personal lives of all individuals.”
One problem is that the power and control minded are always driven, and often find a way, to more power and control. If government is weak (or corrupt), it will be used or controlled by the powerful who are not officially in government, usually to the detriment of everybody else.
I’m currently of the belief that more competent government is needed during difficult times, but more government is usually neither needed or wanted during good times. There is no all-around best-fit for all-people all-the-time government, as many ideological believers suggest. The best type and amount of government is probably contextually relative to the times and culture.
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By: freD on December 4, 2008
at 5:34 PM
“Boy, you left-leaning people can be nasty. No wonder we have such partisan politics. Lighten up, we’re all in this mess together.”
Good thing the right leaning is so tolerant…perhaps that way we can get out of this mess together.
Disclaimer: This was a sarcastic response to the above posting, it in no way represents my own or any other viewpoint nor should it be taken as a valid opinion or response. Nor am I responsible for any stolen or damaged items left behind in your car.
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By: Charles on December 4, 2008
at 5:32 PM
Boy, you left-leaning people can be nasty. No wonder we have such partisan politics. Lighten up, we’re all in this mess together.
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By: Mister Write on December 4, 2008
at 5:22 PM
I have never been happy with the attention Sarah Palin received. She was an instant celebrity. Liberals ripped her apart in the media, and conservatives defended her without knowing anything about her.
She is allegedly negotiating a major book deal. I have not kept up with that news story, so I don’t know if she signed a deal or not yet.
Whether you like her or hate her, Sarah Palin has a unique opportunity that few people get. If she uses her newfound celebrity for good… raising funds for charities then I will be happy. But if she uses it for self promotion (tv shows, books, movies) I will not be happy.
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By: rockfrompelt on December 4, 2008
at 5:07 PM
I’ll try again…
Idiot Savant,
I saw that History lesson before but it was a little different:
Yadda, yadda, yadda…same beginning. But then:
Some men spent their days sewing the ground with grains for the brewery while others believed the seeds were alive and should be eaten now. This was the beginning of what is known as the liberal movement.
Other men who were dumber and less skilled at brewing learned to live off the liberals by showing up for the nightly beer fest and doing all the drinking, pissing, and sleeping. This was the beginning of the conservative movement.
Some of these liberal men & woman eventually evolved into leaders. The rest could not compete with larger brains and called themselves conservative He-men.
Some noteworthy conservative achievements include the domestication of cockfighting, the invention of group anti-socials and apartheid, the hyper magnification of Hollywood actors, and the concept of Conservatives deciding to decide how to divide all the meat and beer that is provided.
Over the years, Liberals came to be symbolized by the most helpful yet stubborn land animal on earth, the jackass. Conservatives are symbolized by the hard to hide but impossible not to notice elephant in the room.
Modern conservatives like imported goods(with white wine), but most prefer white labor or imported slave labor. They eat rare steak but like their fish well done. Sausage, lard, and fried food are standard conservative fare.
Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of liberal women have lower testosterone levels than their men. Most child beaters, personal injury defendants, journalists, Hollywood hypers and anti-social groups are conservatives. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn’t sensible to make the pitcher bat when a hitter wins the game.
Conservatives drink imported vodka. They sneak around with boys and still lie to their women. Liberals are large company employees, workers, farmers, harvesters, construction workers, firemen, medical employees, police officers, corporate managers, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works to save lives. Conservatives who own companies hire liberals who need to work for the man that robbed their parents.
Conservatives produce little or nothing….
Yadda, yadda, yadda…most here get the idea!
But SavantNoir/Idiot Savant…you probably don’t.
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 4, 2008
at 5:05 PM
Was directed here from the excellent Raincoaster blog and was not disappointed. Good post! Agree with you about Palin (scary she got that close huh?) ut must take issue with you when you say “I really can’t criticize you for making fun of a handicapped veteran. Afterall, I’ve written a blog making fun of a mentally handicapped governor of Alaska.” You see I take great exception to the excuse that she can’t help it – none of them can help it, it’s an affliction poor thing. She’s not mentally handicapped she’s lazy and just plain dumb. She’s also really quite pretty with impressive breasts. But I’m sure that didn’t influence any of the er… many voters that put their cross next to her name. I wonder if they knew who the other guy was? Or had she shot the turkey?
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By: jaq on December 4, 2008
at 5:00 PM
Testing ~ I’m a Wedgie ~ Δ
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 4, 2008
at 4:59 PM
I come here to watch old ladies own* internet morons. It’s better than television, I’ll tell you that.
*Pardon my slang.
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By: Andy on December 4, 2008
at 4:55 PM
“If you have kids in college, I’d get them out now! Free thinkers might be poisoning college students with knowledge, truth and meaning. Oh, the horror!”
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Maybe they didn’t start out liberal but, with a wider understanding of the world we live in, they became more liberal? Usually people turn more conservative with age, but not always.
Honestly, I don’t know how any conservative like the ones we see posting trash here (i.e., the ones who support Sarah Palin) can possibly have taken and passed a critical-thinking class.
Unless they have no ethics, or sense of right and wrong, I would imagine it would be very uncomortable for them to participate in such garbage as these conservatives do.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 4:50 PM
By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 4:42 pm
I had doubts, then I read a great column by Andrew Sullivan that gave an insightful perspective on the choice of HRC.
I’ll bet you can still find it archived- I think it was through a huffpo link, but published on The Atlantic online.
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By: CO Almost Native on December 4, 2008
at 4:48 PM
SavantNoir:
“It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off. And there you have it”
Respond angrily? No…a Liberal would respond with facts, citations, places you could go to check your supposed “truths” (which you plagiarized…tsk, tsk). A Conservative today would take you at face value, and not bother with the truth; hence Joe the Plumber, et al.
A Conservative of Goldwater’s day would check out the facts, sit down with you , look you in the eye and have a discussion- and shake hands afterwards.
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By: CO Almost Native on December 4, 2008
at 4:44 PM
“Re: Palin. I do hope that we stop giving her lots of pub. She is no threat to us in the near future, and maybe, not ever.
I worry more about Obama’s putting in as SecState, someone who, just like Joe Lieberman, has a “PROPERTY OF AIPAC!” tatt on her butt.
I’m sorry, but Hillary Clinton has no business being within mile of Obama’s foreign policy.”
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Regarding why we are still commenting on Sarah Palin: See the approximately 20,000 previous posts on this subject.
Regarding Hillary Clinton: I don’t agree about the AIPAC and HRC, however. NOBODY could be as much of a toady as Lieberman is. Most other politicians court the Jewish vote in one way or another, and I don’t think HRC’s courting is more than average.
Regarding Hillary Clinton as Obama’s SOS: I also share your concerns, but not for the same reasons. However, I’ve worked in the public and private secter long enough to know that those outside of management and administration rarely can understand why decisions are made becaus the outsiders don’t have a clue about the organization/agency’s vision, the laws and requirements they have to fulfill, and current and future problems that the public is not aware of.
To date Obama has done very well. I quit questioning him after about the 5th time I criticized a decision of his, only to feel foolish later when it turned out he was absolutely right and my way would have been a fracking disaster.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 4:42 PM
“I wonder how people feel it’s so okay to make mean remarks about other people with no sense of maturity or consideration. Disagree but do so in an agreeable way. Ur old, u should get that!”
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Hypocrisy? Table of 1? Hypocrisy?
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 4:35 PM
By: freD on December 4, 2008
at 2:03 pm
Awesome! Perhaps we can get back to the real, accurate definition of a Liberal: one who is in favor of limited government, but government for the benefit of all citizens, and one who is in favor of limited government interference into the personal lives of all individuals.
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By: CO Almost Native on December 4, 2008
at 4:33 PM
sanabituranima:
I can see your point about the title, but the phrase “half a brain” is actually an old cliche/slang from the 1950s referred to something Really, Really Dumb that someone did.
SavantNoir:
Sigh. Ok, here goes:
We have to be watching SP, as she has ambitions to be President; there are several web sites, including Susan B. Anthony List (what a misnomer; Anthony was not pro-life), who are actively promoting her for 2012.
The EFCA does not abolish negotiations, nor will it make every company unionized- read the bill. Union membership is down below 20%- yes, there are some stupid parts to the auto/union contract, but unions have done good things: minimum wage, maximum work day hours, job safety, child labor laws…
The Civilian Youth Corp: if young people serve at least a year, they will get free public college education; it is not forced labor- read Obama’s opinion on this, watch the 60 Minutes interview.
As I, and others have said before: there are great sources of objective information out there- read, and educate yourself!
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By: CO Almost Native on December 4, 2008
at 4:28 PM
Re: Palin. I do hope that we stop giving her lots of pub. She is no threat to us in the near future, and maybe, not ever.
I worry more about Obama’s putting in as SecState, someone who, just like Joe Lieberman, has a “PROPERTY OF AIPAC!” tatt on her butt.
I’m sorry, but Hillary Clinton has no business being within mile of Obama’s foreign policy.
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By: tanbark on December 4, 2008
at 4:12 PM
Dear Helen, The comments on Palin are hilarious and perceptive.
But Hillary and “success” are not two words that fit together that well. She lost a nomination that was all but in her hand because she was brickdumb enough to go haring off to the right, just as the Iraq chickens were coming in to roost on bush and the GOP’s heads
She took a dump on the progressive wing of the democratic party, and found out that we dump back. What could be fairer? :o)
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By: Anonymous on December 4, 2008
at 4:07 PM
I wonder how people feel it’s so okay to make mean remarks about other people with no sense of maturity or consideration. Disagree but do so in an agreeable way. Ur old, u should get that!
tim
http://TheEvolutionofGod.wordpress.com
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By: Tim Kurek on December 4, 2008
at 3:53 PM
what an ignorant post…
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By: Tim Kurek on December 4, 2008
at 3:51 PM
SavantNoir = Idiot Savant?
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By: CanadianGirl on December 4, 2008
at 3:47 PM
Okay, I promise not to post any more today; sorry for the deluge of comments. I got a bit miffed when a troll on another thread took a swipe at the pic of my husband in my avatar.
I think that SavantNoir’s plagiarism is just another sign that the ignorant and fearful are incapable of doing anything other than parrot the words of others (others, mind you, who are as equally uninformed and deluded).
Such small minded baboons.
Nice catch, Political Amazon. Keep ‘em honest.
I tried to check out your blog, but the link seems not to be working?
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1) Your husband is darling! He reminds me of one of the guys on Deadliest Catch (ROWWRRRR!)
2) I was so disgusted with the 2000 election that I decided to back away from internet politcal activism and return to college to get a second degree in something that would allow me to get a job where I would either participate in making public policy or implementing public policy.
I now have a job doing exactly that, and WOW does it keep me busy! Plus, it’s so interesting that, even when I’m not working, I actually enjoy reading up on new approaches to some of the problems the agency for which I work is involved in.
So I don’t keep up the website anymore. I think I have a blog here but I haven’t worked on it yet.
December is a slow month in politics/government so I hope to get some work done on it soon.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 3:43 PM
hahaha, way to rip greg apart. what a nerd for bypassing the comments in favor of email, just to harass you for posting what you want to on your own site. i never got that. you are one badass grandma, i too have set up an email for my grandma- also a liberal and fan of the clintons… maybe i should start a blog for her!
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By: Who Cares on December 4, 2008
at 3:39 PM
Okay, I promise not to post any more today; sorry for the deluge of comments. I got a bit miffed when a troll on another thread took a swipe at the pic of my husband in my avatar.
I think that SavantNoir’s plagiarism is just another sign that the ignorant and fearful are incapable of doing anything other than parrot the words of others (others, mind you, who are as equally uninformed and deluded).
Such small minded baboons.
Nice catch, Political Amazon. Keep ’em honest.
I tried to check out your blog, but the link seems not to be working?
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By: skyewriter on December 4, 2008
at 3:21 PM
I choose to ignore SavantNoir. He (I’m pretty sure it’s a he) just wants to make a stir. My sister’s spousal equivalent sent this ‘history’ to me, and I just deleted it and put his name in my junk mail filter.
They think it’s really funny and can’t understand why it’s offensive. But I suppose they think stuff masquerading as humor that makes fun of ethnic groups, women, religions, etc is hilarious and the height of sophistication, and a person who is offended ‘just doesn’t have a sense of humor.’
Go away.
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By: Martha on December 4, 2008
at 3:12 PM
I agree, I think you outdid yourself with this post. You are a great voice to have out there!
Thank you for inspiring me to keep blogging.
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By: Meghan on December 4, 2008
at 3:05 PM
freD is BACK. Hallelujah!
And, what a delightful return it is.
Well done.
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By: Elsie on December 4, 2008
at 2:58 PM
Excellent response!
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By: Rider3 on December 4, 2008
at 2:56 PM
SavantNoir :
“Human History
Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer….”
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It is ethical to give the source of an article pulled from another source. If you are not the author of this article, it is honoable to give credit to the author.
If you are the author, you have been plagiarized all over the internet.
Do a google for:
“Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals”
Look at all of the nearly exact same articles! 1250 to be exact. There is a bit of format changing, and a few different paragraphs that are tacked on at the end, but those types of changes do not stop it from being plagiarism.
And I could not find ANY reference to the original author ANYWHERE in any of the websites I checked….not even a reference back to the source of the article.
Are the kind of people who find this kind of ignorant attack on liberals, as a group, completely devoid of ethics and common courtesy? Do they all think it’s okay to take credit for someone else’s work?
I can see if there was no original author indicated at the site they copied the origial mess from, but, lacking that, one would assume that the poster or author of the website is the author of the article. If nothing else, a link back to the website where the article was lifted from gives the best source available, and lets people know that you are not the author and do not take credit for others’ work.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 2:55 PM
“Sarah Palin is largely inconsequential now to the rest of the world. McCain/Palin lost the election. I fail to understand why Palin remains an issue here. You speak of “looking forward”, then I would suggest you look at the following bits of legislature that is coming down the pike:…”
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See item 1) on the post at:
By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 11:13 am
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 2:41 PM
This is great! Haven’t laughed this hard, nor felt so good about it, since the first SNL skit with Tina.
I don’t know whose writing this, but since I’m 68 I really don’t find it hard to believe that the bloggers are who they say they are.
OH – and yes I have a blog, I share some of these same opinions, and no – my grandson didn’t set it up for me. In fact, I’ve helped numerous much younger folks establish web sites. So let’s drop the assumptions about age. Old people can think, write, blog and computer -honest ;-0
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By: Greg Stone on December 4, 2008
at 2:38 PM
“Not only did she do it with half a brain, but just like Ginger Rogers, she did it backwards and in high heels. I would love to have here as the SECOND woman governor of NH. Please ladies, stop confusing eloquence with wisdom.”
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1) NOTE TO THOSE WHO KEEP SAYING “WHY DO YOU KEEP DISCUSSING SARAH PALIN?”
This is why. She’s already on the way to running Alaska into the ground, and she would do the same for our country. In addition, she is devoid of ethics, is uneducated, is unintelligent, is narcissistc, and is a pathological liar.
Fortunately, unintelligent people make blatant liars of themselves because they cannot remember their lies.
Unfortunately, her sycophant supporters don’t care that she is a pathological liar.
2) Do not misinterpret the comments here to suit your own needs.
It is not eloquence or lack of eloquence about which people criticize Palin.
It’s her inability to answer a very basic question without drifting off into something akin to speaking in tongues. She does this because she does not know the answer and wants to just keep throwing in enough jingoistic sound bytes to keep her gullible supporters enthralled.
Fortunately for her, it doesn’ seem to take much to keep her supporters enthralled.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 2:31 PM
freD: I think I am swooning (don’t tell hubbie :).
One last thing, SavantNoir: A majority of the most educated folks in our nation are liberal:
From the _Journal of Higher Education_ (sample roughly 3500 tenured faculty at top ten schools)
Political Orientation of Faculty Members — 7 Categories
Extremely liberal: 9.4%
Liberal: 34.7%
Slightly liberal: 18.1%
Middle of the road: 18.0%
Slightly conservative: 10.5%
Conservative: 8.0%
Very conservative: 1.2%
Roughly 62% then consider themselves slightly liberal to very liberal.
If you have kids in college, I’d get them out now! Free thinkers might be poisoning college students with knowledge, truth and meaning. Oh, the horror!
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By: skyewriter on December 4, 2008
at 2:18 PM
Woman, you say it like it is, with facts to back it up! do not ever stop!!…to bad greg doesn’t get it, in denial…(note lower case, same as his insult to our new President)..but as that commedian guy, Ron White says “you just can’t fix stupid”…
it fits for greg and ms runner up beautiqueen both to a “T”
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By: Mary in PA on December 4, 2008
at 2:10 PM
Sorry about the occasional grammatical error. I’ve gotta get busy with work.
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By: freD on December 4, 2008
at 2:05 PM
Real Human History
Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They were able to surpassed their other “human” competition, the physically and mentally superior Neanderthal (larger brains, massive musculature, 90 percent protein diet, and close range weaponry including dagger points found in the necks of wooly rhinos, as evidenced in the fossil record), because of their superior diversity of mental temperaments, ability to coalesce these temperaments to adapt (thru genetic tribalism), and their omnivorous diet capability.
Life being incredibly difficult, only those who benefited the tribe survived. Those who were least fit to contribute to the health or defense of the tribe (defects of any kind), were removed. This was easiest to determine with obvious birth defects. But one kind of non-contributor (known by today’s psychologists as members of the “dark triad”) could survive past infancy by camouflaging themselves but were usually banished once their true nature was discovered. Leadership had to be proven, as poor tribal leaders would also be banished.
Older non-hunting men still had value as their experience could be tapped. Older non-gathering women still had value as teachers of wisdom. Dweebish brainy types might have value for their problem solving ability, such as the genius who predicted that the wolves visiting the scrap heap had the potential to be beneficial allies, or that throwing sticks provided leverage for spears. But whenever a psychopathic (born without fear genes) leader or warrior began their inevitable insanity (molesting children, harming others or eating all of the meat), they were either banished or clubbed to death in their sleep. Humanity evolved under these conditions.
Fast forward to the historic age (neolithic). Animal domestication and farming technologies meant that much larger populations could be sustained. The problem with much larger populations, was that those from the “dark triad” were much more difficult to discover and banish. Populations increased well past the place where power had to be legitimately earned. Power began to be taken, if not seized. The inherent tribalism which had been critical to human survival was taken advantage of by this new breed of ‘super human’ – the fearless, ruthless, and cunning machiavellian. The fossil record shows an explosion of murders and warfare.
Liberalism was orignally developed by the Athenian Greeks (democracy), developed by the Cappadocian Christians and other intellectuals, usually in isolation, and finally took root in 18th century Europe and in the American colonies. Liberalism came about as a rational check and balance counter the inevitable intended or unintended destructive consequences caused when unchecked power is concentrated within the hands of a few. And liberalism has been evolving as mankind, human society, and it’s technologies have been evolving.
Here ends today’s real lesson in world history.
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By: freD on December 4, 2008
at 2:03 PM
SavantNoir:
You might want to check out an expert’s body of scholarship on the whole Hunter/Gatherer thing you attempted to comment on.
One highly regarded current-day scholar is Frank Marlowe, currently in the Harvard Anthropology department. His website has links to some excellent reading materials on recent re-tooling of that mythos in pdf format that you could readily access if you wanted to engage in some intelligent dialogue.
[Sidenote: did you know this blog has a spell-checker?]
You also write about the erosion of Civil Liberties of which “we” are so unaware.
Two things:
The passing of Prop 8 in CA
The “Patriot” Act passed under the current lame duck and his batch of thugs.
Good luck to you.
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By: skyewriter on December 4, 2008
at 1:57 PM
What you see around you is not all that it seems. Our Group has been doing exhaustive research to expose and to stop those policies that will undermine American Sovereignty and personal Freedom. We are scouring through the Library of Congress and other reliable sources to compile legitimate and irrefutable evidence to substantiate a “big picture”. Initially this search was spawned by information obtained by “conspiracy theorists”. Some links below are from Heritage Foundation and Library of Congress. Others provided the impetus to begin our research. I am at a loss of how to present all that we are uncovering, so I have enclosed a very important youtube link on the Federal Reserve. The one thing I object too when presenting evidence, are the claims that this was someone’s “intent”. Just like Obama, we do not know, nor will ever know, what truly is in his heart and mind. As such, we scour for FACTS and disregard hysterical hyperbole. That some is contained within, is only due to my inability to condense this post. However, when you begin to piece together the history, starting as far back as 1913, and you start equating various legislations to “events”…..a big picture begins to emerge. If nothing else, watch the youtube Federal Reserve link.
Employees Free Choice Act: http://www.heritage.org/research/labor/wm1768.cfm
North American Union: http://www.StopTheNorthAmericanUnion.com/TreasonAbounds.html
This link leads to a Conspiracy Theory site. I don’t buy into “conspiracy theories”, so our Group exhaustively starts researching these things for legitimacy. The North American Union, if not real, sure is getting close to SEEMING to be real when considered within the context of “The Global Poverty Act” and the “EFCA”.
Obama Civil Youth Corp: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80943
The Patriot Act: (H.R. 3162) http://epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html
This is the first public legislation that helps set the framework for the NAU. It is an interesting read. At the same time of the Patriot Act (107th Congressional Meeting), H.R. 2977 was also passed. Excerpt follows:
“(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or (III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.”
Federal Reserve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAcjTqLBuzA&feature=related
Trace the money!
Excerpt from Rockefeller: (this also goes back to NAU)
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents … to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”- David Rockefeller, “Memoirs” autobiography (2002, Random House publishers), page 405
2.. The Federal Reserve has not been physically audited: Where is the money? (the gold)
http://www.givemeliberty.org/FreedomDrive/Redress/PetitionFed.htm
http://www.wethepeoplecongress.org/00-AboutUs.htm
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By: SavantNoir on December 4, 2008
at 1:42 PM
“I’m glad the freD confusion got sorted out… cause I know he (she?) is one of the good ‘uns.”
It gets kind of confusing without the labels, doesn’t it?
Ok everybody, 1-2-3 – FreD good. FreD not a troll. FreD goooood.
Excellent!
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By: pashionit about pollyticks on December 4, 2008
at 1:36 PM
In addtion:
Sarah Palin is largely inconsequential now to the rest of the world. McCain/Palin lost the election. I fail to understand why Palin remains an issue here. You speak of “looking forward”, then I would suggest you look at the following bits of legislature that is coming down the pike:
EFCA (Employees Free Choise Act) This is neither “free”, nor does it allow any choices, inasmuch that it takes away the secret ballot and abolishes all negotiations. It will Unionize each and every company in this country that has 3 employees or more. Undoubtedly, you may find this a good thing. It is not. As we see the Big 3 crumple because of Union-stranglation, just imagine an entire economy with this chokehold about its neck.
The Global Poverty Act. Read the Bill. The United States dances to the tune of the United Nations?? Again, you may like it. I don’t.
THe Civil Youth Corp. This is wonderful bit of social engineering. I will insert here a quote from Barak, and one from Michelle. They speak for themselves.
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”–Senator Obama
“Barak is going to require you to work. He willdemand you shed your cyncism. Barak will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual”–Michele Obama, Feb 2008
While our Soveriegnty and Civil Liberties are going to be eroded right beneath your feet, you have your noses so high in the air you cannot even see the subsidence of the earth beneath your shoes. Amazing! lol
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By: SavantNoir on December 4, 2008
at 1:32 PM
The “lesson in world history” ends too soon. It doesn’t explain how a MAJORITY of Americans, both liberals AND conservatives, somehow snapped to the possibility that the United States was in the toilet after all those years of Republican “leadership” and chose Barack Hussein Obama as our new president. Hmmmm…..
“Absolute truth of this history”? No, it’s a bit silly, but it’s a WHOLE lot bullshit.
And there you have it.
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By: Elsie on December 4, 2008
at 1:27 PM
Oh, and for positive economic news…. visit my blog (shameless promoter)
http://www.positiveeconomicnews.com
Join the democratization of positive economic news…it’s out there, you’re just not going to read/hear/see it on mainstream media.
Again…peace
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By: tzugidan on December 4, 2008
at 1:23 PM
Most liberals I know are well above this sort of thing… When all else fails, try to provoke them… Seriously, it’s all the extreme right has any more.
I mean look at the Pres. Race… O’Bama talked about what he would do, how he would do it, spelled it out on his http://www.site. What did McCain have? Fear tactics… provocation.
And I’ve never voted Repbulican for Pres since I was 18, until now…and I’m 44!
So I’m not some ultra-liberal O’bama lover. It’s just that I realize that there needs to be a balance of conservatism and liberalism… If we haven’t figured that out by now, we’re doomed.
And as far as this post above goes…well…I think I explained it… I’ve seen it many times before and just chuckle…
Peace
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By: tzugidan on December 4, 2008
at 1:21 PM
Human History
Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer.
These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
1. Liberals, and
2. Conservatives
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor the aluminum can had been invented yet, so while our early ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That’s how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to be B-B-Q’d at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is now known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q’s and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.
Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.
Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth: the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.
Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added ), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.
Most social workers, personal injury lawyers, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn’t fair to make the pitcher also bat.
Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers corporate executives, athletes, Marines and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.
Liberals produce little or nothing . They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and the hard work completed, then created a business of trying to get something for nothing.
Here ends today’s lesson in world history.
It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off. And there you have it.
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By: SavantNoir on December 4, 2008
at 1:12 PM
Helen,
Thank you for once again showing that “old” does not equate to brain-dead.
Leanderthal,
Loved that you changed “Chambliss” to “Shameless”. I’m surprised no one has called him that before you.
Jim_NH,
I would be willing to bet the majority of Alaskans would like nothing better than to let you have SP! Have you really researched what she has done “for” Alaska?
ehslollyxbeans,
Well written. You’re a young woman any gramma would be proud of.
AlaskaPi, JuneauJoe, Political Amazon, Skyewriter, Proud Community OrganizerWA, and the rest who comment so eloquently/intelligently, Thank You!
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By: Judy C on December 4, 2008
at 1:11 PM
Wow! Political Amazon, you rock!
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By: don v on December 4, 2008
at 12:50 PM
ok then- you wrote
“well if she has done all her accomplishments with half a brain, and as you have not done crap in comparison to all she as acomplished, then i must say, she appears to be half a brain ahead of your dumb ass…big smile…”
First things first… You do not have to be a politician to be sucessful. I am sure that many of us are successful in their own right. I am currently working on a masters degree even though I am at about 50% capacity healthwise (MS is a bitch). That is what makes me successful at this point in my life. I am sure there are others with families, successful jobs, grand accomplishments that are not apparent to the public eye.
2nd of all…. Helen has a huge accomplishment over you, Sarah Palin and George W Bush.
Helen CAN make a coherent sentence WITHOUT the help of a telepromter.
It is sad that the American public and especially the republicans don’t have that as one of their standards for their politicians. I always thought that was a requirement myself…. an unwritten implied requirement…. but a requirement nonetheless. I guess in future elections that will have to be one of the first questions I ask when I examine politicians credentials…. Can you make a coherent sentence without help!!!! You should ask that out of your politicians also!
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By: Anonymous on December 4, 2008
at 12:49 PM
Matthew, thanks for taking care of the techie stuff so your grandma can just keep cranking out the wit and wisdom. We appreciate the heck out of you too!
I’m glad the freD confusion got sorted out… cause I know he (she?) is one of the good ‘uns.
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By: Archangel Gabrielle on December 4, 2008
at 12:47 PM
Fortunately your disrespectful ad-homenem attacks on Gov. Palin are only that. Calling a person ignorant doesn’t make one ignorant, nor does the lack of speaking prowess or the occaisonal verbal faux pas. If the latter was the case, we haven’t had a smart president….ever! I’ve read a few posts now, and every once in a while I see a disagreement with issues….fine. But alas it’s laced with an abundance personal attacks….which makes me think…it’s not too late for you to go into politics! 🙂
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By: debese on December 4, 2008
at 12:40 PM
I’ve been crazily busy with work for the past month so I haven’t had time to visit your blog until tonight. I’m so glad I did. I’ve been sitting at my computer for the past half hour with shoulders shaking and silent laughter spilling out of my gaping, laughing mouth. It wasn’t a pretty sight, I’m sure, but it felt GREAT!
Living in Bangkok means that I’m surrounded by the ridiculous melodrama of Thai politics (you’ve heard about the airport siege?) and have to make an effort to find out what is going on in my own country’s political theater. Sometimes I wonder why I bother. The last I want to know is that Sarah Palin still has the nerve to show her face around the ‘Lower 48’ and that there are still idiots who welcome her. That’s why I like your blog. Not only do I get a good dose of current events, I get your biting wit skewering those turkeys. (Not offense to turkeys of the bird persuasion.)
Thank you so much. I think you’re both wonderful. You’ve made my day.
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By: Abbie on December 4, 2008
at 12:39 PM
Matthew, I second skyewriter’s comments. Both of my grandmothers and my mother are no longer with me and I welcome your grandmother’s words every time she sees fit to write.
Thank you both.
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By: Anonymous on December 4, 2008
at 12:36 PM
Ohhhh, Helen, I love ya! Greg, you just got served!
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By: notmuchofacook on December 4, 2008
at 12:33 PM
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By: maxie911 on December 4, 2008
at 12:29 PM
Ok, now you’ve convinced me. I’m going to feature Sarah Palin on my Xmas card this year (I’m an artist/cartoonist). I’ll draw her in her home with deer heads over the fireplace, with names under each one: Dancer, Prancer, Comet, Vixon …. She’ll be wrapping gifts next to shopping bags from N-M, Barneys, Saks. Maybe I’ll have Putin outside the window in her front yard, bringing fruitcake.
Seriously, we cannot understimate the danger of Sarah Palin. She has charisma, and as long as she mouths syllables meaningful to her followers (whether or not she understands them herself), she is a real threat. When McCain first chose her, I looked up info about her and concluded, “Oh no, it’s Dan Quayle in a tiara.” What I fear now is W in a red heels.
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By: Nationelle on December 4, 2008
at 12:21 PM
What?
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By: don v on December 4, 2008
at 12:21 PM
Helen, as Jackie Gleason used to say —
— You’re the greatest.
I mean it. I really do.
-Beeha, http://2cob.wordpress.com
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By: beeha on December 4, 2008
at 12:19 PM
Regarding a whole lot of stupid – they just re-elected Chambliss in Georgia – talk about the lowest common denominator.
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By: Murlock on December 4, 2008
at 12:18 PM
You, people, you know nothing about the reality from the other word.
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By: Anonymous on December 4, 2008
at 12:14 PM
Ladies, I absolutely love and appreciate you….please, keep on writing!
I have fresh coffee brewing, to go with the pies.
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By: trish in SW FL on December 4, 2008
at 12:05 PM
Do all elderly people want to leave the world a better place for the children and grandchildren? I wonder if that is what my grandmother thinks too? 😦
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By: J on December 4, 2008
at 12:00 PM
I, too am tired of hearing about Palin. I truly believe the Republicans are scraping the bottom of the barrel if “Caribou Barbie” is the best they can come up with. (Give another of your readers the credit for that nickname — which about sums her up!) However, I have to say I liked the way you replied to the stupid “Greg’s” in this country –not that it will change their thinking at all. The Republican “smear” and “scare ’em” brand of campaigning really works on a lot of these types. I retired to northern Michigan and while I love many of the people I’ve met here, there are a lot of northern “rednecks” up here. It’s beautiful here and outdoor sports are popular summer and winter, especially hunting. Soooo…the Republicans start sending out anonymous emails-supposedly signed by the NRA– telling people the first thing Obama will do is take away all the guns, even from honest hunters! He goes on to say Obama voted to do this in Illinois! I’m from Chicago and know the only thing Obama ever voted against was armor-piercing rounds (“cop killers”) to be used in any kind of weapon. But these people up here have trouble making the distinction. Palin is a lot like them–only she’s in a position to do further damage to the country. Yours is the only blog that mentions Palin that I will read–but I’d really rather read about someone who does have a brain.
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By: sherrie1690 on December 4, 2008
at 11:56 AM
well if she has done all her accomplishments with half a brain, and as you have not done crap in comparison to all she as acomplished, then i must say, she appears to be half a brain ahead of your dumb ass…big smile…
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By: ok then on December 4, 2008
at 11:56 AM
Wow, you are a sassy little tart today! And as adorable as ever, may I add.
If you were single, I’d introducing you to my grandfather — he still has all his teeth and would put Jack Lalane to shame.
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By: zirkel on December 4, 2008
at 11:55 AM
It’s official – I want to be an adopted grandchild. Thanks you for saying it better than anyone else.
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By: Vicky on December 4, 2008
at 11:53 AM
It’s obvious that Greg from Minnesota was not brought up by humans, maybe wolves? His point of view aside, he (and his parents, if he has any) should be ashamed of the way he speaks to an elderly person. Have you never heard of “Respect your Elders,” sir?
Love how you broke it down for him, ma’am! 🙂
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By: ChrisDC on December 4, 2008
at 11:48 AM
Just a quick sidenote to Matthew:
Thanks so much for being the caretaker here and sharing your grandmother with us. Mine have both been gone for some time now. I know I don’t need to tell you this, but cherish every moment– you’ve got a very rare and precious gem in her (and Margaret, too)!
*blows a kiss*
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By: skyewriter on December 4, 2008
at 11:43 AM
Truly hilarious!! Thanks for the good laugh
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By: Tresor De Beaute on December 4, 2008
at 11:38 AM
Bless you for your unflappable, unrelenting refusal to let uninformed, shortsighted, and misguided opinions go unchallenged. Palin is an embarrassment that is only relieved somewhat by the knowledge that people like you and your fans are aware and vigilant! Thanks. Oh, and I kind of hope you are forced to keep writing about Palin, especially since we Alaskans are going to be forced to continue dealing with her for a while at least.
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By: Terri from Nowhere on December 4, 2008
at 11:27 AM
Oh no, you are mistaken! My doctor never told me that I have half a brain! Deeeear, I will ask him next time I see him!
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By: President Sarah Palin on December 4, 2008
at 11:24 AM
Thanks for putting Greg in short pants.
Ignorance is as ignorance does is still true it seems.
I wrote about Saxby Shameless yesterday on my blog: http://leesvoicecryinginthewilderness.blogspot.com.
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By: Leanderthal on December 4, 2008
at 11:21 AM
> Most excellent, Helen…..
grantman
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By: grantman on December 4, 2008
at 11:21 AM
I am wondering just when Sarah Palin will fall through the ice in Alaska with her spiked high heels… Oh, that day will come. She’s fallen on her face many times, I’m sure. I just hope that when she’s a grandma like me, and that time will be quite soon, that she realizes what’s truly at stake here. And may she stop dressing like she’s trying to get all the mens attention in the room. Come on, Sarah, fess up. You can’t possibly be comfortable in that clothing. So it must be for the sake of all the men you’re trying to woo. You betcha it is!
Brenda in Tyler
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By: Brenda Kula on December 4, 2008
at 11:20 AM
First time reader but not the last.
Hysterical, well written, entertaining, and oh so true!
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By: lori on December 4, 2008
at 11:13 AM
“You never do shut up do you? If you want Gov. Palin to disappear, why do talk about her so much? Like it or not, she is now a major part of the Republican party, just as Joe Biden would have been for the Democrats if Americans had voted with more than “GIVE ME MONEY” in mind and had elected McCain instead of Obama. Its hilarious and somewhat sad that all you know how to do is attack Palin’s intelligence. Find a new line of attack. This one is getting old. Your what, a hundred years old? Have you been doing this to Conservative Presidents/ Vice Presidents since birth? Good grief…”
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How could such a short post contain so much bullshit?
1) We continue to talk about her because she continues to act like a narcissistic, ignorant ass. Because there are so many gullible Republicans who think she is the best thing since sliced bread and want her to be president, Palin represents a risk to our country.
See, those of us who actually follow current events knew in 2000 that Bush Jr would be very bad for our country. How? Because, as governor of Texas, he had run the state right into the ground. And that’s exactly what he’s done to our country as president, too.
So we look at Palin, who is in the process of running Alaska into the ground, and can see what she would do to our country.
2) It is illogical to compare Sarah Palin and Joe Biden in any way except that they are human beings, they are politicians, and they ran for vice president in 2008. Joe Biden is not the unethical dullard that Sarah Palin is. Joe Biden has decades of being a successful Senator. Joe Biden actually puts his kids first. I could go on and on, but suffice it to say–Sarah Palin is, and never could be, anything close to what Joe Biden is.
3) Americans voted for Obama for president because they believe he can start the process of repairing the damage 8 years of what the last Republican asshole president did to our country. It had nothing to do with “give me the money.” McCain so thoroughly proved during the campaign that he was incomptent to do much of anything, including selecting a VP candidate, that many Republicans voted for Obama.
4) Sarah Palin is not intelligent. She is not educated. She is barely functional in answering even simple questions.
5) Your crack about Helen’s age is a sign of your desperation.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 11:13 AM
Embarrassing that he’s from my state. Perhaps he missed the election, however. My state voted for Obama.
I’ve never been more proud to live here.
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By: Laura on December 4, 2008
at 11:13 AM
Dear Helen,
I, too, have tried to LEAVE SARAH ALONE! But she is truly the gift that keeps on giving. If it’s not her, it’s her idiot supporters or the media who keep inspiring me to return to the subject of Sarah Get Your Pitchfork.
I bow in awe to your greatness. You have, indeed, made the world a better place by your excellent writing.
KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT!
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By: Left-Eyed Jack on December 4, 2008
at 11:12 AM
“Easier, your question “How many unwanted children have you adoped today?” reminded me of a bumper sticker I saw tonight.
“Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Embryo? Adopt, Foster, Educate, Protect”…
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Speaking of bumper stickers, I saw one yesterday that I truly love:
“Save the ta-tas”
Black print over the pink breast cancer awareness ribbon.
They sell them online. Yes, I’ve already bought some.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 10:45 AM
I love you.
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By: magpie on December 4, 2008
at 10:45 AM
Maybe if there were more Americans without a lock at their mouths and less hypochrites, the deplorable opinion about Americans in the whole world would change ! Wherever I go they have become the laughter of the world.
That doesn’t mean that I generalize and I have a lot of friends there.
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By: Gattina on December 4, 2008
at 10:42 AM
“I can’t remember where I first heard it, but isn’t there a common belief among republican operatives that if you tell a lie often enough people will start accepting it as truth? They’ve been doing that since 2000 at least and people like greg are proof that it works…”
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That is Hitler’s Big Lie tactic. Yes, it has been used very successfully by some Republican politicians and their surrogates. Here is the paragraph from Hitler’s autobiography, Mein Kampf, which describes the tactic:
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… in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
—Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf, 1925)
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Another quote from a genocidal dictator that bears observence, especially since the GOP seems to have taken it on as a campaign strategy, is this one from Josef Stalin:
“”Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.”
This above quote is the one that most use. The one I have a resource for is the following quote:
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“You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this —- who will count the votes, and how.”
–Josef Stalin (Boris Bazhanov’s Memoris of Stalin’s Former Secretary, 1992).
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 10:38 AM
For CJ @ 8:13am
Ann Coulter’s jaw wired shut:
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/poor-ann-coulter-where-will-all-veno
~ PEACE ~
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 4, 2008
at 10:31 AM
i love you, helen: great post.
http://www.charlietueats.com
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By: gambypants on December 4, 2008
at 10:28 AM
Morning all!
Matthew Thank you for all of your hard work on this blog! We love you!
Catherine of course they would stand up and clap! She would have to bend over to tie her shoes and……well you get my drift.
Morning JuneauJoe! Watched Keith and Rachel last night. They keep me informed but I am thinking about taking a time out until after Xmas as the lame duck watches are sending me into jabbering fits!
When I look in the mirror I don’t see bitter at all. I see a Mom who has earned every gray root and wrinkle, that well a bit irritating just prove I laugh quite a bit! Actually I call them my Character lines!
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By: Proud Community OrganizerWA on December 4, 2008
at 10:26 AM
“Oh I am so disgusted that she is getting press for helping draft dodger Chambliss in a race that he would have won anyway. I think that if she tied her shoes they would all get up and clap!”
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As I said before, Sarah Palin could take a dump on the stage, call it caviar, scoop it up on crackers, and her gullible supporters would eagerly gobble it down.
BTW, that is a metaphor for how they eagerly gobble down the shit she serves up to them at every one of her appearances.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 10:23 AM
Not only did she do it with half a brain, but just like Ginger Rogers, she did it backwards and in high heels. I would love to have here as the SECOND woman governor of NH. Please ladies, stop confusing eloquence with wisdom.
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By: Jim_NH on December 4, 2008
at 10:23 AM
“I can’t help it though; I’m sick to death of the obsession with Palin. And also, the obsession of the press with all things Clinton, as in “Will Bill Clinton be appointed to fill Hillary’s senate seat?” or “Why would Hillary want to be Secretary of State?” and on and on. I wish the press would give things Palin and Clinton a rest, and cover the news….”
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Margaret Carlson on one of MSNBC’s Big Three (Maddow, Olbermann or Matthews), said this:
“Palin is like Elvis and the Clintons. She will always be with us.”
My first reaction was to recoil in horror, but upon further reflection, I think she’s probably right.
See, with Palin and the Clintons it is ALWAYS about them. No matter what the issue is, they always manage to get the focus on them. Hillary’s appointment to SOS is a great example.
We can’t blame the media for this, either. Bill Clinton is well known for calling his pet journalists and leaking little tidbits of information, or proposing possible theories for what the Clintons are doing.
And, although I’m sick of hearing about the Clintons and Palin, I’m glad the media is reporting on what they are doing, because all three need watching.
I think the Clintons have the potential to do great good for our country in the future. But during the Democratic primary, they showed the extreme ruthlessness of which they are capable, and I think we need to be very aware of what they are doing at all times.
I have to admit it…when the Clintons started pandering to bigots, it freaked me out. For the Clintons, who owe so much of their success to the support of America’s African-American voters, to court bigots—it showed, IMO, that they will do anything, betray anything and anyone, to get what they want.
And we have to remember that as we go forward with Hillary as SOS that the Clintons obsession is to get Hillary into the Oval Office.
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By: Political Amazon on December 4, 2008
at 10:21 AM
You never do shut up do you? If you want Gov. Palin to disappear, why do talk about her so much? Like it or not, she is now a major part of the Republican party, just as Joe Biden would have been for the Democrats if Americans had voted with more than “GIVE ME MONEY” in mind and had elected McCain instead of Obama. Its hilarious and somewhat sad that all you know how to do is attack Palin’s intelligence. Find a new line of attack. This one is getting old. Your what, a hundred years old? Have you been doing this to Conservative Presidents/ Vice Presidents since birth? Good grief.
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By: benjaminvallen1 on December 4, 2008
at 10:19 AM
Oh I am so disgusted that she is getting press for helping draft dodger Chambliss in a race that he would have won anyway. I think that if she tied her shoes they would all get up and clap!
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By: Catherine on December 4, 2008
at 10:11 AM
Why do these Palin supporters keep telling us to look in a mirror? My e-mailer talked about how every morning Obama supporters get up and look in the mirror and see a bitter face looking back out.
I don’t see bitter. Do you see bitter? In fact, I’m sort of beaming, myself.
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By: suburbancorrespondent on December 4, 2008
at 10:00 AM
Palin story on Mudflats: She owes Alaska $8720.00.
Just another, The democrats must be accountable but Sarah gets a pass…
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
Sarah is getting free ride after free ride when any democrat or average Joe would be facing serious penalties or possibly jail time. The 150,000 in clothes is an example. We need some straight talk about the Palin freebies. There are serious questions about how they got a house built so quickly by Todd and a few friends. (At the same time the Huge Rink was being built nearby. Did her friend the contractor have his men go over and do a lot of building of the house as well.)
I bet Rush and O’really, will check into it.
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By: JuneauJoe on December 4, 2008
at 9:37 AM
Very well put, Helen. The only thing I picked up on in Greg’s response that you didn’t touch on was how blissfully unaware he seems that America was actually angry at George W. Bush. It wasn’t the financial crisis, it was the 8 years that led up to it that HELPED get Obama over the top.
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By: chris on December 4, 2008
at 9:30 AM
I find the title of this post deeply offensive to brain injury survivors.
Sarah Palin’s idiocy is not the result of having part of her brain missing. As far as I can tell, she has a perfectly average brain – she is just too blinkered to actually use that. (Everyone does that, but she takes it to extremes.)
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By: sanabituranima on December 4, 2008
at 9:25 AM
It is kind of hard to leave the Palin subject behind. There’s just so much good stuff to write about! Thanks, ladies!
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By: PunditMom on December 4, 2008
at 9:22 AM
Here is a Maddow link:
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-tale-two-bailouts
Please check out the Michael Moore comments on Keith Olberman as well as the Maddow link above.
We need to become more informed on issues. We have some smart people on this forum. We need to teach each other stuff. Did you know that the tundra in Alaska is becoming mushy? In studies done the last 20 years, a warming is occurring. I happened to be in a village where the researcher snow mobiled in and buried some guages.
freD, sorry if I got on your case when you are actually a good fellow. Idiots bug me.
Thanks Helen and Margaret and thank you, the vigilant writers on this forum. Good Stuff.
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By: JuneauJoe on December 4, 2008
at 9:18 AM
I’m a student at a highschool from canada, and I started reading your blog (as well as many others) to get some insight on the american election. The way you described Sarah Palin made me laugh all the time; sometimes right out loud in the middle of class.
But what I don’t get is how people can’t enjoy someone who can write as well as you, even if they don’t agree with what you’re saying. It’s funny, and you can’t deny it.
What I also don’t get is the fact that they blatantly insult their elders. I would never dream of talking to someone older than me like some people talk to you. It’s disgusting!
But anyways, that’s not the point..
The point is that you’ve touched more than just the idiots. I didn’t start caring about the american election until I read your blog and started to read other election blogs. So…thank you.
:3 I hope you keep blogging. I especially liked the letter to your family; it kind of reminded me of my own family.
-Lolly
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By: ehslollyxbeans on December 4, 2008
at 9:16 AM
Note from Matthew: This board is not moderated per se. I am Helen’s grandson and I check in from time to time. The normal WordPress systems are in place that sometimes put you in spam or moderated status due to several factors including the number of links in your message. Soemtimes you end up there by mistake. My grandmother also asked me to put a mod block on comments that contain certain words. Ex. the n word and the f word to name two. If you get caught in that process, your comment will sit there until I have time to look in. I have a fullt-ime job and I live temporarily in London so I do this at odd hours. The only commentors that get a permanent ban are the ones that try to “clog” the system with nasty comments that have nothing to do with the subject matter. I haven’t done that often as Helen as told me to let people say what the want to say. My grandmother has very thick skin and we haven’t seen her act this young in years. We thank all of you for that. My only other involvement is to format the posts for Helen and Margaret which sometimes slows down the process as well. Full disclosure: I’ve made about $500 off the t-shirst etc. so I guess my hourly rate is about $2.35!
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By: Helen Philpot on December 4, 2008
at 9:14 AM
Keep it going, truth does will out over putzes!!!
Palin is the dumb human side of the Repbulican right…Where is Sen. Mark Hatfield?
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By: nearlynormalized on December 4, 2008
at 9:12 AM
Dynasty:
Caroline Kennedy!
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By: JuneauJoe on December 4, 2008
at 8:59 AM
Morning!
I hope you folks are watching Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow. I really appreciate their take on the political events of the day.
Even Rush Lovers should watch it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#28041597
Helen and Margaret – Keep em coming! You two are great! Get a call about the Inauguration yet?
They could have you sitting next to Hillary and Bill!
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By: JuneauJoe on December 4, 2008
at 8:57 AM
Lane says—-“A lot of recent research has shown that people, especially less educated people, tend to pass”facts” through their own set of filters and then decide what reality is. If the reality they are seeing and hearing doesn’t square with the reality of their filters, they reinterpret it until it does.”
LANE-
I can’t remember where I first heard it, but isn’t there a common belief among republican operatives that if you tell a lie often enough people will start accepting it as truth? They’ve been doing that since 2000 at least and people like greg are proof that it works.
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By: Anonymous on December 4, 2008
at 8:47 AM
You are FABULOUS!!!!! Forget about people like Greg…they are the minority in this country, and the majority of us are not going to let his ignorance take hold again.
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By: Laura on December 4, 2008
at 8:45 AM
“Palin did say that one of the reasons she would be experienced at foreign policy if she was VP is because Russia, if it flies west, would first fly over Alaska.”
If the Russians flew west, wouldn’t that put them over Europe? Surely SP said east, please tell me she said east!
Someone commented that the male Republicans in line for the presidential nomination must be taking gas over the attention and adulation that SP is getting. I think that’s a really good point, and I don’t think those guys are dumb. Historically, it seems that the Republican nomination has gone to the guy whose turn it is (Bob Dole, McCain) and they let Bush II butt in line. I sure hope they don’t let it happen again.
And no to Bush III (Jeb) too. If it’s going to be a dynasty, I want Hillary or Chelsea!
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By: Martha on December 4, 2008
at 8:36 AM
Maybe, though, just maybe Susan Collins will speak up with the voice of reason! There’s hope!!!
She will be hearing from me on a regular basis to urge her to do just that!
I have a sneakin’ suspician that the demise of the repigs and President Obama, has set her free to be SHE.
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By: Pat on December 4, 2008
at 8:35 AM
(I like to call them the “uninformed with opinions.”) Too bad someone taught them how to type and not how to research.
HOW TO THINK!
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By: Pat on December 4, 2008
at 8:32 AM
Elsie, I had that impression of freD too. FreD, what do you say? I am bothered that you may have been taken down for what I saw as a joke.
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By: Martha on December 4, 2008
at 8:16 AM
Thanks Helen. Still loving you!
Who the hell makes fun of a disabled person?
BTW…Ya know Ann Coulter broke her jaw and now it’s wired shut. Have fun with that little tidbit Helen.
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By: CJ on December 4, 2008
at 8:13 AM
Helen and Margaret thanks for giving me something to savor with my morning meditation.
And AMI thanks for posting the clip of Palin saying you can actually see Russia from land in Alaska. I thought Tina Fey just MADE THAT UP! It’s for real, just exaggerated.
Love this blog.
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By: llano on December 4, 2008
at 8:07 AM
Thank you for being a well informed voter… if only everyone took the time to learn the issues and made an educated vote.
Really enjoying your blog from Nova Scotia, Canada.
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By: JBrown on December 4, 2008
at 8:07 AM
Hi, I’ve been following your blog since about October or so, and I just feel the need to say that I love it. I’m fed up with ‘old’ people being written off, especially women. Thank you for showing the world that you’ve still got it by the bucket-load, and doing so with wit.
If I ever grow up, I want to be like you two.
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By: msdepresso on December 4, 2008
at 8:04 AM
I look like a fool here in my small cyber in Kenya coz I am bursting out laughing every few seconds.
Do Punchlines Just come to you naturally?
I hope to be able to write like you one day, and soon. God knows we need it. Sarah Palin eould be the genius in our parliament. That is how desperate our situation is.
Once again
Marvin, from Kenya.
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By: Marvin K. Tumbo on December 4, 2008
at 7:47 AM
Helen, you’re awesome! I just love the way you tell it like it is….Unfortunately there will always be “haters” like Greg and that dumbass Sarah Palin out there. Oh well, I guess idiots were created so that the rest of us would have something to laugh at; they can be entertaining. Keep doing what you do; those of us who “get it” really appreciate your blog. Really we do!
BTW, thanks for setting the record straight on Max Cleland. As a retired Army vet with 22 years of service as well as an Iraq war vet, it really pisses me off when some as*hol! who probably never served a day in his miserable life tries to criticize or even make fun of a vet. Its real easy to sit back and criticize somebody from the sidelines. Unfortunately, most of these idiots don’t have the guts to put on a uniform and fight for our country. I’ll get off my soapbox on this one for now. Luv ya Helen, keep giving them hell!
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By: Jazzydee on December 4, 2008
at 7:41 AM
Helen, I think I love you. I have nothing to add to this post other than to say, I WISH more people thought like you, and I feel very bad for the south and Texas, which is still consumed by idiots – i.e.: 100,000 in GA to hear Palin talk. Too bad Barnum and Bailey didn’t find her before the republican party, imagine how much money they could have made.
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By: Say It on December 4, 2008
at 7:27 AM
Amid all the cheers and jeers this Greg troubles me. Let’s not forget he represents a big chunk of our country. 46% of the population, more than 55 million, voted for McCain/Palin when anyway you slice it they have no business even running for the highest office in the land. Some rudimentary research reveals not just ignorance and stupidity from Palin, but also her extreme religious beliefs, abuse of power, etc. Her husband was part of a group that wanted to separate from the country! McCain, on the other hand, ran probably the most incoherent campaign in history. He is 72 with serious cancer history but didn’t release complete medical records. And still they gathered 55 million voters! They can’t be all stupid, can they?
The Republicans and Conservatives I see defended Bush/Cheney for years and now they hail Palin, though not all of them, as party savior. All they all crazy? Are their supporters all nuts? How can someone defend torture, unjust wars which caused mass deaths? What has happened to human decency? Some of them happen to be my friends and relatives and I know they are not evildoers. In conclusion, the support for Palin and the Republicans troubles me far more.
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By: Californicator on December 4, 2008
at 7:03 AM
The only thing we have to ignore is ignorance itself.
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By: bdkilgore on December 4, 2008
at 6:37 AM
Dear Helen:
A friend sent me this. Supposed to be a joke, but got me thinking. What is your opinion on this? All the best. Arlene
Here is an interesting comment on the current recession in USA:
Dr. Marc Faber concluded his monthly bulletin (June 2008) with the following:
The federal government is sending each of us a $600 rebate. If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, the money goes to China. If we spend it on gasoline it goes to the Arabs. If we buy a computer it will go to India.
If we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. If we purchase a good car it will go to Germany. If we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy.
The only way to keep that money here at home is to spend it on prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in the US.
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By: Arlene on December 4, 2008
at 4:58 AM
“…..HELLLOOOOO!
Hey Greg, Helen isn’t running for VP!! What is the point of her listing her accomplishments? It’s like telling a movie critic they can’t critique a movie unless they can play all the parts him- or herself.
The stupid out there is beyond amazing. Thanks for yet another incredible and well thought-out post.”
LOL!! my thoughts exactly
and about that Max Cleland bs, if I were getting paid to count the times I read lies passing as ‘truths’ on the internet during this election alone Id be rich today.
Letterman call yet?
Someone really needs to show him this blog.
ps about the Republitard comments, Im not a Republican but I think we should keep in mind that the extreme right ie folks like the ones trolling this blog, would like us to believe that this is all about Democrats vs Republicans because they love to divide us, folks that’s exactly how they conquer, please do not forget the last 8 years.
The truth is that many many Republicans and non Democrats voted for Obama, that’s one of the many reasons he won.
Something to keep in mind.
Liz
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By: PalinShutUp on December 4, 2008
at 3:48 AM
Easier, your question “How many unwanted children have you adoped today?” reminded me of a bumper sticker I saw tonight.
“Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Embryo? Adopt, Foster, Educate, Protect”
I never cease to be amazed at how pro-life folks stop feeling responsible once they’ve had their way. Kinda like shiftless fathers, in my opinion.
One of the things I love about being pro-choice is the choice part. It means we each have to be responsible for our actions, and for many, that responsibility and all its consequences means having the baby. That’s the beauty. We can choose.
My son knows he was wanted because I had to make the conscious choice to keep him. There’s never been any doubt; he knows he’s loved. No one forced me to keep him, which might have fostered resentment and anger. I had to make the choice.
So I’ll always be pro-choice.
Especially if it means standing up to people like Palin, who insist that they know what’s right for everybody. (And don’t get me started on the rape-kit debacle! My blood pressure can’t take it!)
Just like I’ll always be pro-Helen! Thank you!
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By: Fran on December 4, 2008
at 3:48 AM
Thanks for setting the record straight on Cleland. I think this swift-boating is the lowest of the low.
Dishonoring the service of veterans, nearly always done by people who never served a freaking second in the military, disgusts me.
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By: Mike on December 4, 2008
at 3:23 AM
You definitely are awesome! I can only hope to have half as much wit & wisdom that’s bestowed upon you when I reach your age!
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By: Kat on December 4, 2008
at 2:35 AM
Hi Helen and Margaret,
Well, we can’t win ’em all. Barring a miracle, the Democrats won’t have a filibuster proof Senate. Looks like old Saxby What’s-His-Name will be reading the Atlanta phone book into the Congressional Record for hours at a time just to throw a monkey wrench into Obama’s plans for our country. Maybe, though, just maybe Susan Collins will speak up with the voice of reason! There’s hope!!!
Aloha!
Jean
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By: Jean on December 4, 2008
at 1:52 AM
Helen, adopt me please???
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By: RachelNV on December 4, 2008
at 1:27 AM
freD….I went back and read your comments on the 28% post.
It actually appears that you are fairly dry behind the ears after all….but Mary Poppins may still be coming after you with some sugar-coated medicine after today’s comment. Look lively. Stay alert.
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By: Lee323 on December 4, 2008
at 1:20 AM
”
Phew.
I was holding my breath that others would appreciate the contributions of freD, too. Thanks for speaking up, Alaska Pi and Charles.
So, now, may this true friend of Helen’s, “freD”, be awarded tonight with the coveted “TROLL SMITER OF THE DAY” award, and, forthwith, be presented the biggest, freshest piece of Miss Helen’s pie?”
Nyaaah…freD, Alaska Pi, Juneau Joe, Political Amazon and many other come pitching the trolls their shit back and definitely Helen who keeps using this blog to do so, me I just come by, make a few smart ass remarks and leave again. I have to admit though, it can be fun being a “buttmunch” as my son calls it…
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By: Charles on December 4, 2008
at 1:18 AM
Mary from Alaska-
I don’t know what is worse…
The gov giving us the proverbial finger by swanning around the country… the “fiddling while Rome burns” thingy OR
Her refusal to REALLy take up any of these nasty issues we are facing when she is here.
I have a hard time with the contention that Ms Palin and her husband were justified in hounding folks to fire Trooper Wooten because he was such a danger to them on a variety of levels.
With the terrible problem with domestic violence we have up here, what better way to SUNSHINE the issue than to point to (supposedly) personal experience with it and roll out new ways to deal with it? Mr Palin , being a man, could have made a HUGE difference in attitudes if he had made it a First Spouse cause. NOOOOO, they had to make a seamy backroom vendetta outta it all…
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By: Alaska Pi on December 4, 2008
at 1:12 AM
Gramma Helen,
You Rock, as usual! Pass me some tissue, will you? I just had one of my own teary laughing fits!
But that said…I must say to Ami (comment on December 3, 2008 at 10:02 pm…”It was Tina Fey (portraying Sarah Palin) who said you can see Russia from Alaska.”)
Sorry to beat a dead horse here, as most of us in the real world with EYES and EARS already know as truth what I’m just about to reiterated here (as others already beat me to it, I’m sure), but geez…I just couldn’t abide such blantant ignorance as what Ami just commented…
OMG Ami…please! Did you SEE the interview? Do you READ newspapers??
“Just so you know”…Sarah Palin said it to Charlie Gibson and ABC news on Sept 11, and you can read the transcript at http://abcnews.go.com/politics/vote2008/Story?id=5782924&page=2
But I also quote it here:
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska
So THEN SNL ran with it in the Tina Fey skit, mocking the ridiculousness of such a statement!
Oh, also, on top of that…”just so you know”…SP has never actually seen Russia herself “from an island in Alaska”.
Quoting Gary Tuchman of CNN (full article here: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/30/you-can-see-russia-from-here/ )
“The island is called Little Diomede…Only about 150 Alaskans live on the whole island. And just about two miles away, in full view of every single house on the island, is the nation of Russia. Specifically, it is the Russian Island of Big Diomede which sits about 25 miles from the Russian Siberian mainland (which you can also see from the American island.)… We were curious if Sarah Palin has ever visited this island. According to the natives, the answer is no.
As a matter of fact, no Alaska governor in the state’s nearly 50 year history has ever visited the remote outpost that still has little running water. We were curious what the Little Diomeders thought about Palin’s claim of foreign policy experience because of the proximity of Siberia. Interestingly, many of these Alaskans had no idea who Sarah Palin was! It turns out they have no TV on the island, and therefore, many don’t follow the news.
The island’s mayor has heard of her though. No American mayor resides in a city closer to Russia than Andrew Milligrock, and he says being two miles from Russia doesn’t give him any foreign policy expertise.
There.
Now what’d I do with my cup of tea? I just can’t finish this lovely cake with out my earl grey…
Blessings from Seattle…
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By: dyricci on December 4, 2008
at 1:08 AM
Palin needs to come back to Alaska and take care of some of the problems up here:
Worst high school graduation rate in the US;
Children and Adults in rural areas with no sewage or water systems;
Increasing rates of AIDS and Tuberculosis;
Worst Domestic Violence Rate in the US;
Worst RAPE rate in the US.
She runs a state with a 43 BILLION dollar surplus, yet we have thousands of kids with no health insurance.
Palin is a disgrace, and we need to keep our eye on her and her ilk.
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By: Mary from Alaska on December 4, 2008
at 12:54 AM
On the upside: Greg can spell and generally construct sentences, which I think is a first for emails of that variety.
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By: Heather on December 4, 2008
at 12:38 AM
Helen-
This post was brilliant. It made me cry… really cry. I laughed some but I mostly cried…
Poor foolish and possibly dangerous Greg -if he tries to tilt at his monsters…( no windmills there…)
I’m a granma…
I worry so…
I attended an Alaskan anti-Palin rally before the election. One of the speakers was a retired pediatrician who has been tireless in his efforts to pursue decent healthcare for all children.
I was struck by a small piece of his speech most of all- though the larger framework did address Alaskan concerns for the gov’s lack of meaningful attention on this subject.
The gent reminded the crowd that while we all have a responsibility to care for and nurture our own children, it must come to matter that the care and nurture of everyone else’s children is an equal responsibility because it is other folks’ kids who will be sharing the world with yours.
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By: Alaska Pi on December 4, 2008
at 12:27 AM
Oh geez, Molly, I’m having brain farts again. Sorry.
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By: Leigh in Austin on December 4, 2008
at 12:10 AM
My dear, I know others have said this, but it’s worth repeating . . . you remind me so much of Ann and Mollie. My bumper sticker says, “What Would Ann Do?” The answer is, start a blog and change her name to Helen.
Thank you for keeping the tradition alive and making me proud to be . . .
ANOTHER BITCH FROM TEXAS
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By: Leigh in Austin on December 4, 2008
at 12:08 AM
Once again, brilliant and funny.
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By: April on December 4, 2008
at 12:05 AM
Lane said earlier, earlier on this thread-
“A lot of recent research has shown that people, especially less educated people, tend to pass”facts” through their own set of filters and then decide what reality is. If the reality they are seeing and hearing doesn’t square with the reality of their filters, they reinterpret it until it does.”
LANE-
Please, do you have study citations so I could track down the material? Feeds into some other things I’ve been reading and thinking about…
“Our republican propaganda machine has worked the same trick on so many people in this country. They have played upon the insecurities of these people and racheted up the anxiety until these people are so in fear of the ominous threat of losing what they know as “America” that they see demons, terrorists, and communists everywhere. ”
At this time and place, it IS the neo-con Republican horse-hooey machine but this is a HUMAN drama which plays itself out over and over-all over the globe and throughout human history.
I have come to see this method as disturbingly similar to the behavior of a classic abuser but on a wholesale scale. Isolate.Frighten. Convince em that only you can understand them or protect them. Whap the crap outta them and tell em it’s their fault for thinking about leaving their only safe place.
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By: Alaska Pi on December 4, 2008
at 12:02 AM
M&H PoPC 2008®
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By: Δ ~ Whirled Peas on December 3, 2008
at 11:56 PM
I’m a WEDGIE.
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By: Whirled Peas ~ Δ on December 3, 2008
at 11:54 PM
you are AMAZING! seriously.
keep it comin’ and keep it snarky!
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By: jennysaisquoi on December 3, 2008
at 11:48 PM
To Sheryl,
How many unwanted children have you adoped today? Until there are no children left in orphanages and foster care, most abortion protesters will have no credibility because they do not live what they preach. I bet Sheryl is for the death penalty.
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By: Easier on December 3, 2008
at 11:47 PM
Quoted from Maven on December 3, 2008
at 6:57 pm
“I liked Barbara’s comment (at around 12:30 pm) which referred to regulars of this blog as the “Piece of Pie Club”.
Does that make us all “wedgies”?
(Sorry, I got off topic there.)”
~ BRILLIANT !!!
I’m a Wedgie,
You’re a Wedgie,
Wouldn’t you like to be a Wedgie TOO?
M&H PoPC 2008®
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By: Whirled Peas on December 3, 2008
at 11:41 PM
Kel, you sound like an honorable person. I’m thinking the problem here is that the Gregs of the world can’t comprehend that blood spilled in defense of our country IS NEVER Republican, Conservative, or Independent–it’s just the blood of yet another American patriot that should ALWAYS be honored.
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By: Elsie on December 3, 2008
at 11:35 PM
I should be getting to bed. Been staying up too late to read this blog. It is soooo addictive! Helen, hat off to you as usual, the best post ever. Wonderful job, the laughter sure would help me with that needed sleep. Who cares about what somebody think about you not dissecting frogs in school? This Greg person was not credible to begin with. His arguments could not hold water. Anybody who thinks Palin to be so wonderful looses all credibility with me. Most of the press did after her debate with VP elect Joe Biden, when they all declared that she did a decent job. Was I the only person noticing that she was checking her notes, not listening to the questions and not answering most of the questions posed to her? What was so accomplished about that? What debate did her supporters listen to? It was mind boggling and still is that people could be so desingenuous, all in the name of politics. Thanks again Helen. Good night all!
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By: Easier on December 3, 2008
at 11:34 PM
Wanda:
“That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.”
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Hmmm…where have I read that before on this blog? Oh, I know. *I* wrote it.
BTW, this may just be me, but I find it terribly tacky for people to advertise their own blogs on a blog where they are posting.
It smacks of desperation for visitors….and using someone else’s popular blog to raise your own viewer numbers.
Just my opinion..your mileage may vary.
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By: Political Amazon on December 3, 2008
at 11:33 PM
From the misleading advertisements aired by the GOP and RNC, it is strange and amazing that when a Democrat is a war-hero (with purple hearts, silver stars and injuries to show it), they’ve somehow “cheated”.
John McCain made a mistake and his plane was shot down. He’s still a hero to me. Max Cleland is a hero just for daring to serve. Greg didn’t highlight that it is precisely due to bad equipment given to the soldiers that caused the grenade to explode!!! Another war hero, Tammy Duckworth fought for better equipment said, “I want my men to be protected.'”
In the battlefield, tou’ve to make snap decisions at the risk of your life and that of your teammates. Of course, Greg (who probably never went to war) can belittle the accomplishments of a veteran. For people who never served. It’s easy to say.
When you’re at war, things happen in a flash. In front of the PC playing computer games, it’s easy to imagine that you won’t make mistakes. Obviously when you lose your life in this little virtual world, you can just restart the game. He’s simply clueless to the dangers each American soldiers are facing everyday at the battlefront.
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By: Kel on December 3, 2008
at 11:24 PM
Thanks guys. I’m humble-pied.
Is my explanatory comment comment from 7:17 pm still in moderation?
I’m still bummed that no conservative/wingnut/hillarysvillager ever wants to play with me. And I’ll admit, my dry sarcasm does get me into trouble when the timing isn’t quite right.
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By: freD on December 3, 2008
at 11:21 PM
Elsie-
So, now, may this true friend of Helen’s, “freD”, be awarded tonight with the coveted “TROLL SMITER OF THE DAY” award, and, forthwith, be presented the biggest, freshest piece of Miss Helen’s pie?
I second the motion…all in favor?
(Do we have to give freD the chocolate pecan? I really wanted some…and it’s the last piece )
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By: Alaska Pi on December 3, 2008
at 11:03 PM
Excellent story, Wanda. Love it.
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By: Elsie on December 3, 2008
at 10:53 PM
Phew.
I was holding my breath that others would appreciate the contributions of freD, too. Thanks for speaking up, Alaska Pi and Charles.
So, now, may this true friend of Helen’s, “freD”, be awarded tonight with the coveted “TROLL SMITER OF THE DAY” award, and, forthwith, be presented the biggest, freshest piece of Miss Helen’s pie?
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By: Elsie on December 3, 2008
at 10:50 PM
Woohoo! Is that soapbox big enough for another person to join you up there? I’ll still let you do all the talking.
What might have appeared to be Hillary riding on Bill’s coattails was probably her propping him up and supporting him every step of the way. And I LOVE BILL. Don’t get me wrong. I think he did the best job of any president in my lifetime. To say that she got to where she is because of him is incredible.
Haven’t you all heard the old story?
The presidential limousine pulls into the gas station. The guy pumping gas knows someone important is in there so he asks the driver who it is. He tells the guy it is President and Mrs. Clinton.
The guy at the pump knocks on the window and says, “Hey Hillary. Remember me? We dated in high school. Just think…if we had stayed together, you would now be married to a gas station attendant.”
Hillary rolls down the window and says, “No…if we had stayed together, you would now be the President of the United States.”
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
http://whatwouldwandado.blogspot.com
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By: Wanda on December 3, 2008
at 10:47 PM
oh crap…
SO full of ourselves…
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By: Alaska Pi on December 3, 2008
at 10:46 PM
“If you go back and read freD’s comments from yesterday on the preceding commentary, “28% of Americans don’t think Sarah Palin is an Idiot”, I believe you will find that he/she is pro-Obama and supportive of Helen.”
“History Chaser is a Palinite who has come into Helen’s blog to do a public service announcement about how fabulous the Moose Killer was yesterday wandering around Georgia for Chambliss.”
Way to keep track!!! And may I suggest, that since the “opposing” views have for the majority been more over-the-top puking than anything else, that if you are being sarcastic, that you label it such first and reinterate afterwards…evidently troll-speak is such a satire already, that your satire will be confused as sincere. Not that I had that situation happen to me with what I thought was obviously satire, nope, didn’t get compared to a troll, not at all…
Helen, enjoyed your post today, I still hold to my earlier comment about Sarah Palin being like Forrest Gump in a dress, without the fictional character’s charm, compassion or wit. Maybe we can get Tom Hanks to play her in a bio-flick, he has done drag before for a character.
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By: Charles on December 3, 2008
at 10:40 PM
Elsie-
“If you go back and read freD’s comments from yesterday on the preceding commentary, “28% of Americans don’t think Sarah Palin is an Idiot”, I believe you will find that he/she is pro-Obama and supportive of Helen.
It seems to me that he/she was just trying to throw some levity into the blog with a play on words at 4:29pm with the supercalifragilistic thing and has just been misunderstood.
And, I also think freD is NOT a troll.”
freD is a troll SMITER… and maybe a good enough wordsmith to have poked us all here
with the tip of our own swords…
from freD nov 29
“You two ” apparattly old hags” don’t seem to respond to any of the comments. WTF. Maybe I should put up a rantings from the ‘looney left” spot for sites like yous. If you have a position, defend it. Don’t just let it go on. If not SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE HELL UP.”
Simply brilliant. If this place was called “Boyz from the Bighouse Keepin It Real” none of the cowardly wingnuts would have been gutsy enough to comment.”
Good on ya , neighbor freD !!!
If we get too full of ourselves we don’t listen closely, we’ll be back in the same old ditch before we know it.
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By: Alaska Pi on December 3, 2008
at 10:40 PM
To Proud Community OrganizerWA: you rock! What an awesome family! We’re all mutts in our family too – a mini UN! And we’re PROUD because we are the world. . .more so than just singing a song. 🙂
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By: Greytdog on December 3, 2008
at 10:30 PM
I completely agree with Susan about the tax exempt status revocation of churches that get involved in politics! In fact, I think I mentioned it somewhere on my site in the pile of words I vomited out onto my blog.
Helen, another job well done. You are right up there with Mae West and Eleanor Roosevelt as women I wish to emulate as I get older.
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By: Psychedelikat on December 3, 2008
at 10:29 PM
History Chaser is a Palinite who has come into Helen’s blog to do a public service announcement about how fabulous the Moose Killer was yesterday wandering around Georgia for Chambliss.
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By: Elsie on December 3, 2008
at 10:29 PM
Let me see if I follow you, Greg. Someone is a bitch if they are confident, articulate and well-read? Gee Greg, you give bitch a good name. I’m feeling kinda good about the word “bitch” right now. Well said Helen, as usual. Couldn’t have said it better! Please be my son’s grandma-he needs a good one!
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By: Deb on December 3, 2008
at 10:29 PM
Helen, what a pistol you are! How has Harold ever kept up with you all these years? Has he ever won an argument? I love that you say what everyone (intelligent) thinks, but you say it better!
BTW, Greggie probably thinks landing on the moon was a hoax, too…
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By: NMJ on December 3, 2008
at 10:26 PM
Quoted by History Chaser:
‘We had John McCain and Mike Huckabee and Gov. Romney and Rudy Giuliani, but Sarah Palin came in on the last day, did a fly-around and, man, she was dynamite,” he said. “We packed the houses everywhere we went. And it really did allow us to peak and get our base fired up.”
Yeah, I heard that quote too, on CNN. It sounds like her performance will keep her in the spotlight. She did her job in “the reddest of the red states”–GA. I guess a state that doesn’t respect a true war hero like Max Cleland, should not be expected to see through the faux patriotism of Chambliss, whose true passion seems to be golfing.
I can’t help it though; I’m sick to death of the obsession with Palin. And also, the obsession of the press with all things Clinton, as in “Will Bill Clinton be appointed to fill Hillary’s senate seat?” or “Why would Hillary want to be Secretary of State?” and on and on. I wish the press would give things Palin and Clinton a rest, and cover the news.
I remember that after Nixon resigned, for a long time the press was preoccupied with all things Nixonian. I suppose in a way, this is similar. Even a surfeit of coverage is not deemed enough.
Helen, your article is superb. I particularly liked your setting the record straight about Max Cleland. Can’t believe a poster called him “old news.” Heartless. It always amazes me to hear the hatred in the posts of those accusing others of same. I guess they don’t have good self awareness. Keep up the good work here.
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By: Sophronia on December 3, 2008
at 10:24 PM
Keep on writing, especially on why
Palin ignorance is not good for America. The “Greg’s” of the world will continue to write & speak their spins & lies. So you must continue to counter it with truth & reason.
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By: teacher on December 3, 2008
at 10:19 PM
To Ami @10:02
Check out this link were Mrs. Palin is being interviewed by Charlies Gibson and she states that “you can clearly see Russia from land in Alaska. Get your facts straight.
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By: Grace on December 3, 2008
at 10:16 PM
Helen-
Seriously, you rock!!!! You treated that email with class!!! What gets me is that this idiot was trying to point the finger at you about spewing hate, when he was merely projecting his own feelings. After all, your entries are not hateful. They are honest… there’s a huge difference.
If there’s one thing I cannot stand, it’s ignorance. Before someone makes accusations, he (or she) should really educate themselves before speaking. Otherwise, they look like a dumb-ass as in the case of Dear Greg from Minn.
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By: D on December 3, 2008
at 10:16 PM
“It was Tina Fey (portraying Sarah Palin) who said you can see Russia from Alaska….”
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Palin did say that one of the reasons she would be experienced at foreign policy if she was VP is because Russia, if it flies west, would first fly over Alaska.
I don’t know how she found that out because, as we all know, she is stunningly ignorant on just about everything but where the designer clothes are located in NM.
Oh, wait… I forgot. It was one of those newspapers she reads–you know, when she couldn’t name one name of a newspaper she read, she replied “all of them.”
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By: Political Amazon on December 3, 2008
at 10:12 PM
If you go back and read freD’s comments from yesterday on the preceding commentary, “28% of Americans don’t think Sarah Palin is an Idiot”, I believe you will find that he/she is pro-Obama and supportive of Helen.
It seems to me that he/she was just trying to throw some levity into the blog with a play on words at 4:29pm with the supercalifragilistic thing and has just been misunderstood.
And, I also think freD is NOT a troll.
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By: Elsie on December 3, 2008
at 10:11 PM
“Helen, you can’t ignore her if she won’t go away. She’s like a fungus that has to be repeatedly addressed in order to prevent its regrowth. If she talks, you talk back! No need to apologize for hitting the fungus with fungicide….”
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I view Palin more as a multiple myeloma…she is a cancer that, if left untreated, may prove fatal for our country.
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By: Political Amazon on December 3, 2008
at 10:10 PM
OMG Helen…again you have me laughing to tears. I don’t care if you go on forever about Moosegal…hell, she just asks for it. She refuses to just “go away.” Very narcissistic at best. Keep the zingers coming.
As for Greg…he deserves everything he gets. And to think there is another Bush (Jeb) eyeballing the political scene again. I bet the RNC is grooming him ahead of Palgal.
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By: themom (Marie) on December 3, 2008
at 10:07 PM
It was Tina Fey (portraying Sarah Palin) who said you can see Russia from Alaska.
NOT that I’m a Palin fan. (no no no no no)… but just sayin’.
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By: Ami on December 3, 2008
at 10:02 PM
“Get use to seeing people,come out of the closet,and take part in how “OUR” nation is run..We are not all,backbiting,liberal’s ,who murder our off spring,for the sake of our own selfish life..I believe,that is the biggest gripe,the mouth’s have against her..She convicts you.”
_________________________________________
Sarah is that you?
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By: Proud Community OrganizerWA on December 3, 2008
at 9:53 PM
Sarah creeps me out. McCain creeps me out more. I am so glad Obama won.
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By: spinningtop23 on December 3, 2008
at 9:52 PM
Don’t tell Margaret but I just read this blog entry and I think I’m in love!
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By: Kat on December 3, 2008
at 9:51 PM
freD…..you, too, are definitely wet behind the ears. Your Mary Poppins will be coming after you with her own towel….and a spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down.
Further, don’t presume to know why Jesus is weeping, my lad. He may be laughing so hard that he’s crying.
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By: Lee323 on December 3, 2008
at 9:35 PM
agree 100% with your post. thank you! ” i mean it” 🙂
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By: FaithfulReader on December 3, 2008
at 9:29 PM
Who cares what Chambliss said. The people of GA aren’t bright enough to realize that they are voting against their own best interest. Ughh how many times do people need to be knocked upside the head to see what the hell is going on around them?
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By: Kat on December 3, 2008
at 9:20 PM
I was literally crying with laughter at your post, and then almost peed my pants with laughter at FreD’s “Jesus is weeping” comment. Oh dear lord, Helen… you do know how to get the loonies all riled up!!
Sweet darling Greg in Minnesota… YOU’RE the one who’s bitterness is showing. We’re doing just fine.
And I really don’t see the hate that people are getting all worked up over. Because Palin was called a bitch, or because her retardation was addressed? Is that really so hateful? Now if Helen was saying that she wanted Palin to choke on cancer, or get drunk and play in traffic, or post Palin’s home number on a serial killers message board… then maybe. But to just call her a bitch? Grow up and get over it.
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By: Kristen Ferrell on December 3, 2008
at 9:18 PM
Helen, you did your level best with the towel….but I’m afraid little Greg will stay wet behind his ears for a good deal longer. It’s called “willful ignorance,” a characteristic he shares with his muse.
However….many, many more were dazzled by your towel-work, including me.
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By: Lee323 on December 3, 2008
at 9:14 PM
FreD and Cheryl:
Who would Jesus bomb next? According to Sarah Palin, the two wars we are now in are missions from God. Was that Sarah or Rev Luthee, as he was doing his witchcraft on her to get her elected to Gov. of Alaska.
Speaking of Rev. Luthee: He had an old woman run out of her village in Africa because she was a witch. He just got a crowd of 200 and some police and went and ran her out of the town. Ain’t religion a great thing? Got to love Sarah!
I must say though that you two are pretty damn stupid.
Can you give me your impressions of the last 8 years under Bush and the Republicans? Did life improve for you in the last 8 years?
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By: JuneauJoe on December 3, 2008
at 9:06 PM
Cheryl, you’re a true palinite. You made no sense, you’re just full of hate.
Anyway are you trying to say you’re coming out of the closet?
It’s fine if you are.
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By: Kat on December 3, 2008
at 9:02 PM
Get use to seeing people,come out of the closet,and take part in how “OUR” nation is run..We are not all,backbiting,liberal’s ,who murder our off spring,for the sake of our own selfish life..I believe,that is the biggest gripe,the mouth’s have against her..She convicts you.
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By: Cheryl on December 3, 2008
at 8:58 PM
JCcc, SP compared to a herding dog? never! herding dogs have a work ethic, they WORK at their jobs 24/7. I see SP as more of one those little purse yappers that people like to dress up and tote around, bring out at big events and comment, “Now isn’t she just the cutest thing ya ever saw?”
PS – my herding dog would definitely cut SP from the herd any day of the week. My herder doesn’t like stupid.
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By: Greytdog on December 3, 2008
at 8:58 PM
freD wrote: “Such anarcho-communistic islamofasictic socialistcalifragilisticexpialidocious
hatred. Have you liberal media terrorists no shame? Jesus is weeping. You will surely burn in hell, along with the gays, women haters, FDR, feminists and Saddam Hussein.”
Wow freD! That’s a pretty awesome made up word there! Did you figure it all by yourself or did Mary Poppins help you? And why would Jesus be weeping? Could it be because you and your type have contraverted the meaning of message?
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By: Greytdog on December 3, 2008
at 8:55 PM
To boudicabpi – Most experienced Democrats did work at some point in the Clinton administration! If Obama didn’t hadn’t selected some of them, the republicans would be citing the inexperience of his appointees. The republicans need to shut up. Obama won. Let me way it again, OBAMA WON!!
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By: Lindy on December 3, 2008
at 8:53 PM
Senator Chambliss on the Palin effect:
“I can’t overstate the impact she had down here,” Chambliss said during an interview Wednesday morning on Fox News.
“When she walks in a room, folks just explode,” he added. “And they really did pack the house everywhere we went. She’s a dynamic lady, a great administrator, and I think she’s got a great future in the Republican Party.”
Chambliss said that after watching her campaign on his behalf at several events Monday, he does not see her star status diminishing within the party.
The Republican also thanked John McCain and the other big name Republicans that came to Georgia, but said Palin made the biggest impact.
“We had John McCain and Mike Huckabee and Gov. Romney and Rudy Giuliani, but Sarah Palin came in on the last day, did a fly-around and, man, she was dynamite,” he said. “We packed the houses everywhere we went. And it really did allow us to peak and get our base fired up.”
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By: History Chaser on December 3, 2008
at 8:41 PM
WAY TO GO HELEN!!!!! You crack me up! I love your way of putting into a few words what all of us have been thinking for so long – “stupid on Fox News” is kind of redundant. Your blog is becoming the highlight of my day!!!!
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By: Shari on December 3, 2008
at 8:39 PM
people like Geg in Minnesota scare the juice out of me, because people like him elected the bozo that got us into this mess in the first place. Its obvious that he has not learned one darn thing over the past 8 years, and makes it plain that he would vote another idiot to high office if she ran. Ignorance is a very dangerous thing.
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By: stripedplanet on December 3, 2008
at 8:35 PM
Helen,
Just when I think I could not love you any more than I already do, you go and blow me out of the water once again.
As long as we stay vigilant and show the world how stupid the “Greg of Minnesota’s of the world are” we can beat these idiots back down. We must keep exposing the Sarah Palin’s of the world for who and what they are. Opportunists and usurpers. They want nothing more than the power, but when they get it they are like children. They do not know what to do with it so they abuse it. For ever idiot that stands up and says that Sarah Palin is a true American and patriot, there must be “20” of us who stand up taller and shout it louder, that we are not going to take it anymore.
Keep up the fight Helen. All one million plus of us, have your back. God Bless you and your family.
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By: willpen on December 3, 2008
at 8:35 PM
Why don’t all those people who think we are old and stupid go somewhere else. I personally love you ladies and smart people know that you don’t get older you get better.
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By: Voter from Michigan on December 3, 2008
at 8:32 PM
Helen, As a mother, I too feared for my child’s future as I watched the Republicans destroy our nation’s reputation, our environment, our civil liberties, etc.
Please, keep blogging. You not only entertain, you educate.
Thank you!
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By: JuliaWalters on December 3, 2008
at 8:26 PM
What a great post! I haven’t read any of your other posts, but I have to say – sing it! AMEN!
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By: Rachel on December 3, 2008
at 8:26 PM
The thing that is funniest to me is that the people who come in here disagreeing with you have no argument – purely just name calling. They sound so stupid! I love your blog, you are hilarious, and I have always wished to be able to speak so eloquently, all that is on my mind. You are fantastic!
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By: drJLML on December 3, 2008
at 8:16 PM
I have 40-50 blogs in my ‘favorites’, and read about a dozen of them on a typical day (now that I’m semi-retired). This blog is as good or better than blogs by professional journalists, in my opinion. It is almost enough to give me hope for the future of America and the world.
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By: JimV on December 3, 2008
at 8:14 PM
Has anyone noticed the poor grammatical structure and vitriol in most of the troll posts on here. Says something, doesn’t it?
Helen, you are excellent in your observations and comments! Keep it up.
Thanks
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By: majii on December 3, 2008
at 8:10 PM
Helen, That was one of the best posts that I have ever read on this topic. I am so happy that you and others are giving the conservatives a run for their money on their free with the fact BS. Don’t feel you have to move away from her because she keeps putting herself in the bullseye and as long as someone still claims she is the next world wonder, people like you need to snap them ack to reality.
Most of all I am so glad you defended Max Cleland. I am so sick of Republicans acting like they have cornered the market on Patriotism. We all love this country.
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By: Catherine on December 3, 2008
at 7:49 PM
Hi Helen,
Your work will never be done because there sadly is no shortage of idiots. Can they please go to an island and leave us the H alone? I can’t get over how people will vote against their own best interest. I can understand those who do crap out of greed, understand but not like, but the ones who don’t have a two nickles to rub together just baffle me!
Keep em coming.
Shirley
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By: Shirley on December 3, 2008
at 7:48 PM
Helen, thank you for coming to the defense of Max Cleland, a great American hero who has been grievously wronged. The Republicans have done some pretty repulsive things over the years, but attacking a triple amputee and comparing him to Osama bin Laden is truly the lowest of the low.
As for that vicious fraud from Alaska, we should try to forget our own loathing of her and think, smugly, of how all those “boys” in the Republican Party who have their eyes on 2012 must be feeling. Tim, Mike, Mitt, Jeb, Charlie, Bobby, Haley… you know, all those GOP nonentities. They must be FURIOUS that McCain has placed her in their path for the next Republican nomination. You can just hear them gritting their teeth every time she gets a microphone stuck in her face or preens for the camera. I’m sure they curse the day McCain picked her, and curse her for her insane ambition and addiction to the limelight. So let’s sit back and enjoy the show!
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By: The Cat's Meow on December 3, 2008
at 7:44 PM
Wowza. Another wonderful comeuppance from an intelligent, articulate and opinionated senior citizen. Sounds like you were one of those who did your homework in school, lived family values and learned a lot of life’s lessons along the way. Thank you for now teaching us to listen and think.
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By: akclh on December 3, 2008
at 7:19 PM
PDX MB and MilleyB,
Sorry. Slow troll day, so I thought I’d liven things up a bit with some of reverse-troll sarcasm. None of the conservatives/wingnuts/hillarysvillage types wants to play with me so I thought I’d play with myself.
PDX MB at 5:32 pm
Hillarysvillage will be echo-chambering themselves into oblivion soon enough. I was hoping to lure troll “Hillarysmygirl08” back over here.
MilleyB at 5:53 pm
Believe it or not, I’ve seen worse. “Dr. Sanity” (blogger) is a licensed psychiatrist (MD!) who actually believes that “the left” is mentally ill, and explains it all using rationalistic Freudian psychbabble. I used to play devils advocate over there a lot, poking holes into her “logic “, but she quit writing. I may have driven her insane.
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By: freD on December 3, 2008
at 7:17 PM
Helen, you can’t ignore her if she won’t go away. She’s like a fungus that has to be repeatedly addressed in order to prevent its regrowth. If she talks, you talk back! No need to apologize for hitting the fungus with fungicide.
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By: pittsburghgirl on December 3, 2008
at 7:15 PM
[…] Sarah Palin’s accomplishments are greater because she did it with half a brain. For those of you who actually read more than one article deep, you know that I was all ready to leave Sarah Palin […] […]
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By: Top Posts « WordPress.com on December 3, 2008
at 7:09 PM
Bless you both. You prove that experience and wisdom count. I adore your blog, but even more I agree with 90% of your statements. (No one is perfect, after all.)
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By: Vic (Ms. Place) on December 3, 2008
at 7:07 PM
I must say I am so very, very proud of all who have done well not to leave Troll-Chow out for the hobgoblins. We only have pie and sweet tea around here ;).
Just say no to troll(s)!
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By: skyewriter on December 3, 2008
at 7:06 PM
Helen, I am more truly, heartily sorry than you can imagine, but I can’t visit your site anymore. I take too much pleasure out of your posts and the subsequent comment-festivities which ensue, and my regular life is getting ignored. Damn you!! (But in a nice way.)
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By: Aerin on December 3, 2008
at 6:58 PM
I liked Barbara’s comment (at around 12:30 pm) which referred to regulars of this blog as the “Piece of Pie Club”.
Does that make us all “wedgies”?
(Sorry, I got off topic there.)
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By: Maven on December 3, 2008
at 6:57 PM
I’m reallly starting to resent the comparisons made between “that woman” (her name will never pass through my lips) and a dog. Any dog.
I believe the Bible was translated by a dyslexic.
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By: Ron on December 3, 2008
at 6:51 PM
Granny Helen,
I am going to have to stop reading your blog….I’ll die laughing…
Well said Granny!!…Well said…all you Americans out there (I’m an outsider looking in) with the good sense to know better, do every thing you can to ensure another idiot never controls the White House ever again….
Your country and the World depends on it!!..
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By: Patricia on December 3, 2008
at 6:46 PM
BRILLIANT!!Thank you for your blog!
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By: sunny on December 3, 2008
at 6:40 PM
Community Org in WA – and remember when McCain said the GI Bill (that would help veterans go to college) was “too generous”!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys thanks for risking life and limb and probably sanity but all it’s really worth is a semester at community college.
And did anyone else notice the wardrobe sp sported during her GA visits? That’s quite the thriftshop they have up there.
Helen thanks for a great post, here’s one of my favorite movie lines.
“Life’s a bitch, now so am I.” Catwoman
sp isn’t really a bitch – not enough substance there – but she could be mistaken for a herding dog.
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By: JCcc on December 3, 2008
at 6:39 PM
Helen, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, YES and Amen!!!
Love your soapbox, too! Speak on!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By: Barbara Anne on December 3, 2008
at 6:39 PM
[…] post, Sarah Palin’s accomplishments are greater because she did it with half a brain, is HILARIOUS!!, and then poignant because, as she states: When you are a mother and a grandmother […]
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By: you HAVE to read Helen’s post « Just Enjoy Him: Ramblings of a Mid-Life Mom on December 3, 2008
at 6:37 PM
Oh, Helen! You rattled their cage again! Just that many more hits for your blog, and that much more publicity. Way to go!
I for one don’t want you & Margaret on Oprah, or the View, or at the Inauguration. Then you wouldn’t have time for us anymore.
Oh, dear. I guess I’m just another selfish democrat. But I haven’t stooped to insulting someone for his/her age, unlike some I could name, Hall.
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By: Martha on December 3, 2008
at 6:31 PM
You’ve just gained another fan. You. Are. Wonderful.
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By: justenjoyhim on December 3, 2008
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Well, it’s nice to see a considerable lessening of the pathetic excuses for neocon Repub Palinistas who are surfin’ over here and leaving their droppings.
But the latest, CarlTCC’s comment, “I happen to know that Rush Limbaugh has a team of researchers…” — that’s really funny. Those “researchers” don’t seem to be any more competent than the RNC “handlers” for Sarah Palin in the presidential campaign. Or Sarah “Pranked” Palin herself.
Lane, kudos to you for your comment on “December 3, 2008 at 11:41 am”. Very well said.
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By: KarenJ on December 3, 2008
at 6:27 PM
Shut up. shut up. shut up. You are old and stupid and so are all of you lovign them.
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By: Hall on December 3, 2008
at 6:22 PM
YEAH GIRL!
For real.
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By: Jill on December 3, 2008
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boudicabpi, no one forced you to come here. Open your eyes and ears to what palin is saying and stop listening to what someone else tells you she said.
freD, get a life and a brain.
Helen I love you.
“When you are a mother and a grandmother you take little things like war (or world peace), the environment and education seriously. Why? Because when you leave this world you want to know that you did everything possible to leave it a better place for your children and their children.”
That’s why most mothers do what they do. I’ve been thinking more and more lately that the whole shebang is messed up. WOMEN should be leaders and men should be demoted to whatever suits them best. Bush likes war—he should be a soldier along with cheney, rumsfeld, hannity, limbaugh,etc. With women as leaders, I think we’d have less wars. Heck, maybe even none with the right women. And palin isn’t the right one.
Makes more sense that way.
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By: Kat on December 3, 2008
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You are all liars and you will be sorry when we come back here and post congratulations to President-elect Palin in four years. See you then liars.
Cleland is old news. Georgia is still red.
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By: Paula on December 3, 2008
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Oh my goodness. Tammey Faye died a couple of years ok. In the end she was kind of a decent person who I think was used by the people around her.
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By: Terry on December 3, 2008
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Glacier Blue Bear:
Read the book. It was lovely.
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By: troutay on December 3, 2008
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You people need to shut up. You are all haters. You tow old women are just to stupid for words and you will pay for your lies and trashing such a good person. And I happen to know that Rush Limbaugh has a team of researchers who work for him and he knows what he is talking about. Unlike you old idiots.
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By: CarlTCC on December 3, 2008
at 6:09 PM
I’ve been reading along for a while but I haven’t commented because getting involved in discussions on such a busy blog will most definitely give me hives or something.
Just wanted to (finally) say that I love your blog! It’s absolutely brilliant! Really. I meant it.
Love and stuff,
Lottie
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By: Lottie on December 3, 2008
at 6:05 PM
I feel sorry for Greg’s dog!
freD: You make me laugh just by putting FDR and Saddam Hussain in the same sentence. If that wasn’t so funny I’d think you were seriously ill.
Biff: Excellent post. Sounds like a nightmare up there. You are right, my prediction is that RNC big boys won’t let her in the 2012 clubhouse, Palin will lose her next election, she’ll get rich on the book tour and someone like Fox will hire her for a talk show. Maybe they could team her up with Tammy Faye Baker.
Helen, love you to death. I really mean that.
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By: MilleyB on December 3, 2008
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Margaret and Helen will never change the minds of the likes of Greg (and, alas, members of my gene pool) but they are doing something much more important. The curious wander over here to see what’s going on, and to sample the pie, and because they are curious, there’s hope of a somewhat open mind. Those are the people who will be influenced by M&H. A much greater accomplishment.
Poor Greg. Didn’t know what he was in for. If I’ve learned anything reading this blog, it’s that I can’t get away with sloppy thinking here – Helen’s got a ruler to smack my fingers!
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By: Martha on December 3, 2008
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THANKYOU!!THANKYOU!!!THANKYOU!!
and yes, I agree with you Helen, let’s let Caribou Barbie fade into the past, where she belongs.
(you rock!)
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By: robinv on December 3, 2008
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Proud Community Organizer in WA: You Rock! Beautifully said!
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By: PDX MB on December 3, 2008
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freD:
I don’t like to feed trolls, but did you wander on over from Hilary’s village? I think I remember you from the other day, and saw posts over at HV? Funny thing, I tried to register there so I could engage in conversation with you folks, as I try to learn as much as I can from people with all points of view, but they never sent me my activation email, although I did receive an acknowledgment of my attempt to register. Gosh, that tells me that they must have checked me out and learned that I read H&M and Mudflats. I guess they don’t want me to spoil their groupthink. Talk about hit and run! You folks are happy to dish it out, but don’t want to take it. Go back to your cave, please.
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By: PDX MB on December 3, 2008
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I have to believe that continually listening to Rush & Fox kills brain cells. Or far too many people in this country choose & crave being fed a steaming pile of crap daily. Or both. How else to explain denying obvious logic. For one example, if Obama had not been born in this country, you can damn well be sure it would have been come to light long, long ago.
Now McCain & Palin scared me to death. Him with his “Bomb, bomb Iran” sick joke. Lousy judgement. If he had died in office we would have been left with someone who would have not only been way over her head but clueless that she was. World leaders like Putin would have chewed her up & spit her out. And McCain picked her for VP. More lousy judgement.
I like your style, Helen. I hope I’m a little like you when I grow up.
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By: ironranger on December 3, 2008
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Palin reminds me of an airhead I had to interview for a job one time. When asked what her experience was she replied, “Well, uh, like, uh, for four years, uh, I was a, uh, like, cheerleader for, uh, Alabama.”
I spewed then. I spew every time Palin opens that dumb trap of hers.
Thanks, Helen. Hugs to you both. Keep writing and we’ll keep reading!
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By: Cindi on December 3, 2008
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Oh you said what I have been thinking!! Good Job!!! Keep it up!!
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By: mary lou on December 3, 2008
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Whoopie! Another great post Helen. Thanks a million.
And I agree with everyone that says we need to keep an eye on Palin. We need to remember every stupid thing she says so we can use them if she ever does hit the bigtime and run for higher office.
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By: Kewalo on December 3, 2008
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And O’dumba did it with less than that. You sheep seem to follow the mess…iah without a clue. Are you really a couple of senile old ladies or making believe you are such? We need Sarah Palin in 2012. This guy has just appointed all of the Clintonistas. It is as if we have elected the Clintons without voting for them. There seems to be no change. Just politics as usual.
Bob A.
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By: boudicabpi on December 3, 2008
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I feel sorry for Gregs wife!!
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By: bakes on December 3, 2008
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“But don’t worry Greg. I really can’t criticize you for making fun of a handicapped veteran.”
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Maybe you can’t Helen but I can. Shame on you Greg! I say this because I am the Mother In Law of a wonderful man who has been to Iraq 3 times (fighting for your freedom as well as mine) what did he do there? He is a combat medic. He fought to save many lives but has bracelets of 17 he could not save. He has lost his best friend in Iraq and knows many that have lost limbs have severe head trauma injuries and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. You know that little thing that President Bush and John McCain don’t think is real!
Just saw an article in the local paper about the rising suicide rates among soldiers coming home from Iraq. I am sure your lot would say that is all a myth as long as it fell from the crap covered lips of people like Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly etc…
I can hear you now Greg what about Senator McCain he was a war hero. Yes you are right he was and I honor that he fought for his country. Unfortunately he has since dishonored himself for fighting the current GI Bill, by talking about cutting benefits for veterans, for not recognizing Post Traumatic Stress and many other issues regarding the military that he has voted against time and time again.
This was one of the main reasons I voted against the McCain/Palin ticket.
“When you are a mother and a grandmother you take little things like war (or world peace), the environment and education seriously. Why? Because when you leave this world you want to know that you did everything possible to leave it a better place for your children and their children.”
Helen this just about made me cry because truer words were never spoken!
Greg this is the second reason I voted against the McCain/Palin ticket. The few policies they did decide to talk about went against the very things Helen has posted in this blog.
I would also like to add it had a heightend element for me. Why? Because I am the grandmother of two 1/2 black grandchildren and one grandchild who is part Native American. Yep our home is fast becoming the United Nations! I love it!
I have told all of my grandchildren you can be anything you want as long as you work hard and have a compassionate heart.
I watched in horror as Sarah Palin spewed the most vile hate and division on the campaign trail. There was nothing honorable about it. It was self serving and loathesome. I kept thinking I hope to god this woman never gets near the White House. She is a racist bitch! Yes I said it. There was not even a thin veneer, there it was pretty plain to see. Did she once stop to think that all of those things she was hurling at Senator Obama would and could cause untold hardship and danger to other fellow Americans and their children? NO she went ahead and followed her own agenda. Period. She can blame the McCain campaign but she is an adult and she claims to be a christian. Sorry I think not and I really think she will be shocked when she meets God.
She proved without a doubt that she and John McCain would not even try to pretend they would govern to help all of the people in America.
Last any woman who thinks that charging for rape kits is ok, or that thinks she has the right because of her personal beliefs to deny woman access to birth control and is the Governor of a state that has the highest reported rape and incest cases and has done nothing to stop these crimes. Well only to state that she would like to make sure they have any child conceived from these crimes. As far as I am concerned is just short of a criminal herself and is not in any way shape or form a feminist or even cares about women’s issues. She is a danger to my daughters and granddaughters.
I could go on because there is more but Helen took care of the spanking and I am just slapping you up along side the head.
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By: Proud Community OrganizerWA on December 3, 2008
at 4:52 PM
Helen – can you come north and give our elected (and not-so-elected) leaders a talking to? We need some straightening out too!
Better still…. have you considered taking the Prime Minister of Canada’s job? You could do wonders….
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By: CanadianGirl on December 3, 2008
at 4:51 PM
Just wanted to make sure everyone is invited to the Facebook group, ” I Have More Foreign Policy Experience Than Sarah Palin”,
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=36436310820
It has 247,219 members, but there’s always room for more…
I love this blog!
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By: Nomi on December 3, 2008
at 4:49 PM
On behalf of the entire State of Minnesota I would like to publically apologize for allowing such an asshat to associate himself with what is in most estimations a pretty fair place to make a home. Except for Norm Coleman, and Tim Pawlenty (watch him Helen, he’s a sly fox, that one), and well, The Tax Payers League, who don’t want to pay for anything anymore. As for the rest of us? We’d like to usher Greg to the boarder with a little lunch packed for the road and say, “You’d better be gettin’ on now, fella.”
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By: standing still on December 3, 2008
at 4:46 PM
hahahahahahahaha Made my day again, Helen. Way to hand it back to the “village idiots”.
My favorite paragraph:
“A half black, half white man with the name Barack Hussein Obama just became President of the United States. He wasn’t even legally a United States citizen and doesn’t have any documentation whatsoever to prove that he was baptized or that he ever attended a single day in school. We are not sure he was actually ever born at all. He beat a war hero whose running mate was an amazing woman who went all of the way from the PTA in Wasilla to the Governor’s mansion in Juneau. And she has documentation proving that she attended five colleges before finally getting a BA in journalism. And on her baptismal record it actually states that she was chosen by God to drill in the area that is arguably one of God’s most beautiful creations to bring oil to the rest of the free world. You are so right Greg. What a lame accomplishment. Clearly that idiot from Alaska can do better. After all, Obama has all four limbs while Palin only has half a brain.”
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By: Moose Pucky on December 3, 2008
at 4:40 PM
You ROCK. The take-home is that we have to keep working to keep our elected officials working FOR US, because the Gregs out there won’t get it. I’m not even a betting woman and I’d put a chunk o’ cash on that one. Keep it up. Really. I totally mean it!
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By: Anon in France on December 3, 2008
at 4:39 PM
I couldn’t possible have answered Greg any better than that.
Although, trying to convince people like Greg (and Palin, for that matter) to have some sense is like beating your head against a brick wall. A stupid brick wall, at that.
I commend you, however, for trying.
Gosh, I will really miss your political commentaries if/when you move on.
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By: JRen on December 3, 2008
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Such anarcho-communistic islamofasictic socialistcalifragilisticexpialidocious
hatred. Have you liberal media terrorists no shame? Jesus is weeping. You will surely burn in hell, along with the gays, women haters, FDR, feminists and Saddam Hussein.
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By: freD on December 3, 2008
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I meant that he and his ilk write.
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By: Vic on December 3, 2008
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You’re the best Helen!
Reading the drivel that Greg and his ilk remind me of Forrest Gump.
“Stupid is as stupid does”
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By: Vic on December 3, 2008
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“When you are a mother and a grandmother you take little things like war (or world peace), the environment and education seriously. Why? Because when you leave this world you want to know that you did everything possible to leave it a better place for your children and their children.”
So eloquent. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
http://lolasdiner.blogspot.com/
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By: Lola on December 3, 2008
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Did you hear that a catholic priest here in CA is telling his parishioners that if they voted for Mr. Obama then they have committed a sin and must go to confession? Really…I’m not making this up…it’s true!
I think it’s time to revoke tax exemptions for any religious organizations that get involved with politics.
Anyway, Helen – what else can be said about your posts other then “Thank you”
Love and Peace
Susan in CA
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By: Susan on December 3, 2008
at 4:16 PM
I can’t tell you how right on you are!! Your awesome!!
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By: Eve on December 3, 2008
at 4:15 PM
Hat tip.
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By: Anokie on December 3, 2008
at 4:14 PM
“As for Gov. Palin, why don’t you tell us your life’s accomplishments, so that we can stack them up against hers? She went from being a member of the town council, to mayor, to Governor of her state, and she did it all on her own, no help from a rich, politically connected family, and she did not ride her husbands coattails like Hillary did. She did it herself with hard work, grit and determination.”
Greg uses a false analogy; it’s not your (Helen’s) accomplishments to be compared, but another politician…
Anyway, let’s look at the “hard work” Palin used to become Governor:
As Mayor, the first thing she did was hire a lobbyist, to garner more earmarks for Wasilla. That’s not hard work, that’s called bribing the voters. Next she pushed passage of the sports center, one that left Wasilla in debt and in legal proceedings still, because the title to the land was not clear- way to go, Miss Determination.
Now, Palin didn’t use a “rich, connected family” to get elected Governor- she used well-connected, influential Republicans like Ted Stevens to learn the ropes, gain donations…then she threw him under the bus. Not exactly on her own-
Finally, let’s see what SP has accomplished since she was elected: well, she got a pipeline deal done, but no gas/oil company wants to commit to using it, and it will be tied up in litigation by the Native Canadians who don’t want it crossing their lands; she’s appointed her best pals to jobs they have no clue how to do- and while she’s been gallivanting across the country, she missed a critical education conference; crime, especially rapes, is the highest in the nation; Alaskans can’t afford heating fuel oil; the number of hungry is up; Permanent Fund dollars are declining, and income from oil/gas is declining due to mature fields and lower prices, so there are serious issues in the Alaskan budget.
While these issues beg for strong action by the Governor, she has been campaigning in GA for Chambliss, a Vietnam draft-dodger and slimer of opponents extraordinaire; look at his record, Gregg.
Greg, if you’re lurking here, I suggest YOU look in a mirror: can you say stupid?
Do your homework! Objective sites are out there, with lots of pertinent information so you can make informed decisions.
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By: CO Almost Native on December 3, 2008
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Tired of birth certificates, for both candidates; it’s a meaningless debate invented by people who need to find a scandal and can’t come up with anything else. Either one could have been born on Mars and been a US citizen, as long as one parent was. Of course Obama’s birth certificate, in the US, after it became part of the US, is clearly present and accounted for. Tough to care about Panama….Actually, tough to care about McSame, now.
I agree, we need to keep an eye on dear Sarah. Left unattended, she could sneak into places where she could still do a lot of damage. (What else do you call someone who hears the words “Kill him!, String him up!” and says nothing, if not “Bitch”)?
I’m getting beyond tired of hearing that because I believe deeply that women are able to attain and competently handle the highest jobs available, I must never suggest that any individual woman is unqualified (although, clearly, she is).
She reminds me of a two-bit grifter who has gotten as far as she has on charisma, looks and a lot of luck. Speaking of which, about that red dress – isn’t that one of the outfits that “doesn’t belong to her”?
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By: judith on December 3, 2008
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Helen, Helen, Helen… once again, you are my hero! Greg is stuck, neck deep in ignorance and venal stupidity, and he simply won’t accept that he and his ilk have augered themselves into the pool of crappy gumbo they cooked up.
You, on the other hand, are the kind of person I want to be when I grow up, if I ever do. The person in your mirro may need a fresh coif, but from where I sit, your are magnificent.
KEEP ON CHOOGLIN!!!!!
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By: Bob on December 3, 2008
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Are you listening Greg in Minnesota?
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By: kwill on December 3, 2008
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Mari:
“Helen, you are my heroine!
Still rooting for a polar bear or wolf to eat Palin.”
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Just trying to figure how many bottles of Maalox a polar bear would need after dining on Sara Palin.
The scary part is that anyone near to the polar bear would think that his stomach was growling when actually it would just be Sarah Palin still TALKING and TALKING and TALKING and TALKING.
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By: Political Amazon on December 3, 2008
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“One more thing, Palin is cunning, but she is still not too bright. Please, at least I can tell you what things I read. When I listened to her in the debate, or answering questions, I just scratched my head and said, “What the hell are you trying to say?” She may be on the national stage, but I can tell an opportunist when I see one.”
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I am tempted to think that she has slipped and is speaking in tongues, but I have Pentecostal relatives in Arkansas, I attend their church when I am visiting, and I can much more easily get the gist of what they are saying when they are speaking in tongues than I can when Palin is trying to speak English.
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By: Political Amazon on December 3, 2008
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This is in response to Alaskan’s comment (another special soul!). Yes, there were a lot of Republicans voting for Obama. There were just about as many non-voting Republicans as those who voted Democratic this time. These folks actually treated the entire day like it was Halloween and they didn’t want to deal with the trick or treaters. They stayed home, shut down the lights, sat on their hands and watched pay per view! That is what is really behind a lot of the weeping and wailing from those who voted Republican. How do I know? I was one of the myriad folks volunteering on the Obama campaign and boy! was that an education on who was voting for whom and why or why not. In other words, real actual boots on the ground experience. Its the antidote for rumor and gossip.
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By: Mageen on December 3, 2008
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Way to go Helen. Fantastic post. Greg didn’t have a chance — bet he thought he was safer emailing you than posting his thoughts on the blog. Silly boy.
Greg wrote “As for Gov. Palin, why don’t you tell us your life’s accomplishments … she did it all on her own, no help from a rich, politically connected family, and she did not ride her husbands coattails like Hillary did. She did it herself with hard work, grit and determination.”
Greg, Compare apples to apples – compare Palin to Obama. Talk about getting ahead with no help from a rich politically connected family (read Bush). Talk about getting ahead with hard work, grit and determination. Oh, and by the way, I think Harvard Law is slightly better than a BA earned at five colleges. You can’t compare Palin to Obama because he comes out miles ahead on every level.
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By: KitKat on December 3, 2008
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Good post. They actually are getting better and better. I’m also getting a little desensitized to the word “bitch” too, so that’s good. It used to conjure up images of a woman cowering in the corner while her man prepares to shut her damn mouth for her. Now it brings up Tina Fey in stolen clothes with an IQ barely above challenged calling our president-elect a Sambo and laughing at cancer and trying to pretend that she knew her daughter’s first illegitimate son was going to be a retard AND an Arctic Arab and forcing her daughter to have it anyway and then going so far as to pretend it was hers just so people would think she was a person who lived in her convictions! And THEN never even telling her daughter what caused that “situation” in the first place so she could avoid it in the future!!!
Yikes, I am really getting worked up here. I need to calm down because I did have a question to ask.
But first I have to make sure that everyone understands that I GET it. I’m not a troll or an idiot or a divider. I get that Sarah Palin hates women who get raped and people who read Harry Potter and..and…poor people! And black people. And gays. And hybrids! She’s doesn’t even deserve my hate! I mean, she’s too low to hate! I don’t hate her. I mean I do! Well I can’t figure out if I do or don’t hate her so I’ll talk like I do hate her and then say I don’t. Yeah, that’s it.
Gee. All that passion about pollyticks and I forgot my question. Confound it! And no one is going to give it to me straight like here.
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By: pashionit about pollyticks on December 3, 2008
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Helen, you are my heroine!
Still rooting for a polar bear or wolf to eat Palin.
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By: Mari on December 3, 2008
at 3:38 PM
I don’t know how you do it, but time and time you are fantastic! I am going to save that info about the military award for Max Cleland.
The way I heard it about the grenade incident that took 3 of his limbs was that he was trying to get the grenade out of the way of others and he sacrificed himself to do it.
I would bet “sacrifice” never crossed Greggie’s mind. Well, Greg, guess what! Its in the dictionary. Go look it up and then look at yourself in the mirror, a real mirror, not the like the one in Snow White and the 7 dwarfs that the evil queen uses to feed her ego.
Oh, and Greggie, palin will undoubtedly trip herself up most royally as she gets more and more spotlight time. It will be so bad that its indesputable, but of course, an ego like hers will never admit it. However, the Princes of the Party will definitely let her know. Hey, look at Senator Murkowski already telling her to don’t even think about running for her seat in the Senate in order to position herself for a stab at the Presidency.
Now if you want us old ladies to finally shut up about palin, get palin to do likewise. All the cosmos just loves balance!
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By: Mageen on December 3, 2008
at 3:37 PM
Gosh Helen, You are so good. I think Obama needs to name you to some committee; like telling stupid people to shut up.
I do not understand several things about Republicans (And, since I was raised by two, that’s probably strange.)
But, #1 is, how is it that they think that if they repeat a lie often enough, it will be accepted as the truth? Now, that one my mother would not put up with. I can barely lie and say, “Yes, that is a beautiful dress you on.” When it is actually really ugly. I was taught to always tell the truth and that it was a religious value.
#2 How can they believe everything they read by anyone and not even bother to check the person out once in a while?
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By: savanvleck on December 3, 2008
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Helen, I am quite content to leave these trolls behind. Since they think the sky is falling, they remain frozen in place and time. And I like it that way.
These zealot pseudo-political zombies have disgusted me for 8 years, and they can just go wash their mouths out with soap if they want to talk politics. There are no redeeming qualities to be found in these people, hence they are just using up perfectly good oxygen. As said many times in previous posts, there is no point in engaging them unless you want to have a little fun at their expense.
They do not show humility, empathy, critical thinking or respect. They scream at shadows because they have lost their humanity. They deserve nothing from us after spreading vile lies and character attacks throughout our culture to divide us.
I’m a good person, and have tried my best to be reasonable and informative with these creeps, but I’m over that now. Now they get my bared teeth!
Just a thought… maybe Sarah could pardon one of them while the rest make up the cone line?
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By: Glacier Blue Bear on December 3, 2008
at 3:15 PM
Ouch! My sides hurt. Dearest Helen, here’s a view from the top. I’ve lived in Alaska for 31 years, and that’s quite a bit more than half my life. While we don’t own the market on electing the village idiot to political office, it is something of a favorite pastime up here. Palin’s predecessor in Juneau was Frank Murkowski, a man who ran banks and businesses into the ground, then spent twenty years in the US Senate with his lips firmly attached to Ted Steven’s ass. His sole mission was to do whatever Ted told him to do. That was part of the reason Stevens was so powerful; he always had two votes. But I digress. Murkowski left the Senate and returned to Alaska as part of the corrupt Republican regime’s plan to “align the planets”. They soon realized they had elected the village idiot when Murky started running the state as if it were his personal clubhouse. He appointed his daughter to his Senate seat, bought a piece of crap jet to fly himself around the world fifty times, and presided over the most blatantly corrupt dealings in Alaska since the days of Soapy Smith. Then came Sarah. Who knows what kind of Governor she would have made? We never will, and perhaps that is better for us. Her 18 months in office were dominated by three things: The FBI going after the Corrupt Bastard’s Club, aka the Alaska Republican party leadership, the price of oil shooting up to the moon and filling state coffers with so much money few here cared who the Governor was, and Sarah using her gosh-darn-it down home gumption to piss it all away like a sailor on shore leave. But she is not our village idiot, our little Sarah, anymore. She belongs to the masses and who are we to deny them? The national Republican Party will be perfectly happy to have Sarah Palin trotting around the country for the next two years while they try and figure out what to do next. Sorry to say, I don’t think we will be able to ignore her antics during that time; they will at least provide comic relief to many who will need something to laugh about in the tough times ahead. Eventually, when the Republican primary comes around, they will be the ones who eat her for lunch. By then her term as our Governor will be coming to an end and we will all finally be able to say good bye to Sarah Palin. Unless you count the documentaries, books, TV reality shows and even feature length movies that are all in the works as we speak. No, Helen, like dentures, hemorrhoids, incontinence, and bland food, the Sarah Palin phenomenon is something unto which we will just have to resign ourselves in our dotage. So keep your sharp wit handy because that lipstick-ed pig will undoubtedly need a poke every now and again. Now, who wants to be our next Governor? Any takers?
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By: Biff on December 3, 2008
at 3:06 PM
Dear Helen, you are clearly channeling the wonderful wit of Ann Richards and Molly Ivins as several others have also noticed! One almost has to thank the trolls for inspiring such witty responses from you (and others here) that they inspire, even though my keyboard may not survive. What is there about Texas that creates such larger-than-life characters … all those open spaces?
Bush the pseudo-Texan may practice “manfully” moving brush about (the same brush?) on his photo op ranch, but he is not a good example for what TX is often linked to … does he even know what a horse is? Thank all the gods that we will FINALLY see the end of him. And not a minute too soon.
The reason that we can’t let Sarah get too far from our consciousness … much as we would love for her to just go away … is exactly as you have stated it here:
“[…] And in my most humble of opinions, when you put a microphone in front of someone who wants to be President and a whole lot of stupid falls out of their mouth… Well, I no longer take that lightly because I now know that a whole lot of stupid can still be elected President if you’re not paying attention. […]
Never! Ever! Again! Ever!
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By: Voltairesneighbor on December 3, 2008
at 2:45 PM
Thank you. Thank you so much for posting this!
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By: liz on December 3, 2008
at 2:45 PM
Mrs. Helen, you are funny as hell!!! You told his ass!!!
Greg, don’t mess with Mrs. Helen!!!
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By: BChick on December 3, 2008
at 2:43 PM
OMG I so needed this laugh. I’m with Bett on the parts that made me burst out laughing.
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By: Carol on December 3, 2008
at 2:38 PM
Can’t really blame you for staying up on your soap box.. I can’t seem to stop posting about Palin either. She is my biggest pet peeve. Stupidity is the one thing I can NOT tolerate and everything about her just screams MORON. Rest assured, she will keep doing/saying stupid things and you will continue to amuse those of us with a brain by ripping her to shreds. The world is how it should be.
Thank you for making me laugh.
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By: MissAnthropy on December 3, 2008
at 2:36 PM
This was truly wonderful Helen, as is just about every article you write. You should be on a national newspaper’s pay role! With this kind of firepower the republican/conservative pundits would have to wake up and actually start talking some sense, if there’s any to be had amongst the lot of them. Every one of your articles is quottable and even inspiring. I love your metaphors, your insults, all of which are completely original and aren’t lacking an ounce of truth anywhere!
Divine.
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By: Kyle Aldrich on December 3, 2008
at 2:35 PM
Helen, as usual, you rock, and you deftly show that the trolls have rocks in their head.
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By: Peggy in Virginia on December 3, 2008
at 2:33 PM
Helen you are a gem. Thanks for continuing to put the spotlight on skunks like Palin, Chambliss and greg.
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By: Cam on December 3, 2008
at 2:33 PM
I agree with stating opinions as they are, but I am getting very tired of hearing the huge generalizations of “you Republicans” or “the problems are because of all of you leftist liberals”. (Helen hasn’t done this; I love her posts because they are thought provoking, funny and intelligent.)
Is it possible that we voted for Obama because it was a choice and not because, we as a collective whole, are socialist, bleeding heart, leftist, liberal blah blah blah.
And the same for those who voted the other way (I can’t say why), but some people may have done it because of extremely strong religious beliefs or other reasons. Although I can fault their logic and reasoning, that is and was their choice. It is obvious that a majority of the voting country did not feel the same way.
But for all of those that called Helen souless, godless, bitch and more…..really. Come on now. Can you be a bitch because you simply have an opinion. Or are you a bitch because of your actual actions. We have plenty of recorded evidence of Palin’s actions and in my book she has earned the title of bitch. I don’t trust her or anything she has to say. I don’t agree with much of what she has to say either. Actually I don’t understand much of what she has to say.
The the division is only going to get wider if we look at it all from an us vs. them mentality. Seems to me from the election that plenty of registered republicans voted for Obama too. Hmm, maybe the country does want change and the others just can’t deal with change.
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By: Alaskan on December 3, 2008
at 2:29 PM
Keep up the commentary Helen. You are not only smart and entertaining, we NEED your voice. Too many people have been silent when we should have been railing in the streets.
In fact, I invite all of your readers to write and call not only your own Senators and Congress people, but EVERY Senator and Congressperson–tell them what you think and what you want for our country.
Write the head of the GOP (like I just did after I received an erroneous letter asking me to donate as a way to celebrate the tragic reelection of fat, bloated good-old-boy Saxby Chambliss to the US Senate.
We can’t be silent anymore–look what happened when they told us to shut up and wave our flags.
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By: Emma H. on December 3, 2008
at 2:21 PM
As long as Palin retains the least possibility of getting more authority, please do keep writing about her. Maybe your words will eventually take.
It’s important.
I really mean it.
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By: weez on December 3, 2008
at 2:20 PM
I am an American in London, I have suffered for the stupidity of my countrymen or people I should say. I have been embarrassed by their stupidity. I cannot believe that after Reagan (what were they thinking, thank God that Arnie can’t be president!) people could have been so stupid.
Thank you for telling it how I feel! That was funny!
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By: Arlene on December 3, 2008
at 2:14 PM
I love reading your web site each day. I think the comments give us all a voice and I read each of them.
You ladies have earned your right to your opinions. They are terrific opinions.
When I turned 65 I thought I had earned the right to say what I was truly thinking. I still have to be careful what I say but I wish I could be more like you ladies. We’ve been taught all our lives to be politically correct and keep our mouths shut.
Thanks for giving me the permission to say what I’m thinking.
carleigh
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By: carleigh in TX on December 3, 2008
at 2:12 PM
“Greg Dear, thanks for writing. When I looked in the mirror today I saw an old woman who needs to make an appointment at the beauty parlour. Thanks for reminding me to look. I sometimes forget. When Sarah Palin looked in the mirror I imagine she see saw a bitch. But that is just a guess on my part. She might not have looked….”
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Oh, my. That was priceless.
I’ve been kind of afraid that Sarah Palin was doing the “Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who’s the fairest of them all?” thing, and had recently been told, instead of the usual “You are, My Odiousness,” “Lisa Murkowski is the fairest of them all,” and that means someone has to let Senator Murkowski know immediately that she should forego apples for the foreeeable future.
I don’t know about Palin having half of a brain. We know she has one-half of Bill Clinton’s IQ (his is around 160, hers is around 83).
And considering how stupid Bill Clinton sometimes acts, having half of his IQ means she is really stupid.
Also, just a suggestion here, but don’t put up your email contact on the blog. If people want to respond to you, they can do it here on your blog where everyone can see what kind of foolihness is being emailed to you.
You’ll have to have M give you a new email address for those you want to share it with.
See, when you copy it onto your blog, the author can always claim “That wasn’t what I wrote, she changed it.”
Also, someone who has the tendency to be odious is usually even more odious when they think no one else is watching or will see what they do.
Loved this post. Your posts are getting better and better, each one better than the last.
As I said before, these type of posting dust-ups tend to sharpen one’s posting skills. So I hope the Palinites continue their clueless rebuttals because, at the rate your posts are getting better, it won’t be long before Keith Olbermann will have you on his show to do a guest commentary.
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By: Political Amazon on December 3, 2008
at 2:08 PM
You always put into words what I think. You keep on doing it!
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By: butterflyspointofview on December 3, 2008
at 1:59 PM
*snerk*
Might be the best thing I’ve ever read about our friend Sarah Palin.
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By: carrotplease on December 3, 2008
at 1:58 PM
Oh, Greg, Greg, Greg….go to the library and quit listening to faux news.
Ladies, once again you have made me laugh so hard, I need to change my …. oh, nvm. lol
Keep doing what you do, as reading the truth is always fun to do.
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By: ms madison on December 3, 2008
at 1:57 PM
Brilliant as always, Helen!
It is amazing, though, trully amazing, that people really think Palin is so wonderfull.
Here is a fun game for you Palin lovers: put a blindfold on, and just LISTEN to Sarah Palin. Just listen, and try and make sense of what she says. Think about your daughters having their rights over their bodies taken away. Think about the dinasours that roamed this earth for 15 million years (not according to Palin). Think about global warming that 5500 top scientists agree on is caused by mankind (not according to Palin). Think about the newspaper you read in the morning and how your beloved Palin couldn’t even name one that she reads (but I admit, that was a REALLY TRICKY question!…). Think about all the insanely stupid remarks that woman spewed in the last few months.
Now take your blindfold off. Take a look at a good close up photo of Sarah Palin. Study that face. That’s not the face of a kind person. It’s the face of a pitbull with lipstick. It’s the face of a person who spends half an hour a day with her kids, Out of choice. That’s why one kid is in Iraq, the other is pregnant at 17, and God help all the others. Man or woman, if you know anything about life, you know parenting is everything, and by golly, isn’t she doing a great job!!
Like I mentioned before on this blog, my Mom always said the most dangerous people in this world are STUPID AMBITIOUS people. If there is a God, I hope he’s not crazy enough, or have a really twisted sense of humor, to put Palin in charge of this country EVER!!
Absurd! the whole thing is ABSURD!
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By: Yoram on December 3, 2008
at 1:54 PM
[…] the whole post here, and I mean the whole thing, every delicious word. It’s one of the most beautiful things I […]
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By: Helen responds to Greg (a MUST read) « girl du jour on December 3, 2008
at 1:53 PM
Helen you are too good to be true! I am in awe of your incredible writing ability. You have a unique talent to get the point across in a powerful and humorous way. Hang in there, I for one will pray that Greg and his like will have a mind-opening miracle experience and join the real world.
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By: Chris Bundy on December 3, 2008
at 1:52 PM
Helen, what can I say??? This was possibly the best entry EVER!!! Every time I think you can’t possibly write one better, there you GO!!!!! I have said it before and I will say it again. Helen, YOU ARE A GEM!!!!! Thanks for making my day again!!
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By: Randi on December 3, 2008
at 1:50 PM
This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever read.
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By: girldujour on December 3, 2008
at 1:47 PM
Good God woman I love you. You make my day – I swear:) Just remember God could come down and tell these 28% that Palin is a moron & they still wouldn’t believe it. I wonder what they would think if Dobson, Coulter, Hannity, O’Reilly & the ilk start trashing her when they find a better candidate in 2012? It is truly unbelievable to me that people think this woman should the the POTUS. I tell you the older I get the dumber I think people are.
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By: debinOhio on December 3, 2008
at 1:46 PM
I want to stop reading about Sarah Palin, but I just can’t help myself. It’s a bad habit I need to break. It’s like when you see an accident on the side of the road and you know you shouldn’t be a rubbernecker, but you just can’t help yourself.
Poor Greg is stuck watching Fox News and doesn’t know what the hell is going on in the world around him.
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By: Adam on December 3, 2008
at 1:40 PM
If my Nana was alive she’d say Palin was an “ASS-HALF”…it would take two of her to make an “ASS-WHOLE”.
Or was that Robin Williams? I keep getting them mixed up.
Write ON ladies!
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By: Whirled Peas on December 3, 2008
at 1:39 PM
Palin’s having to look in the mirror because she doesn’t have the expensive hairstylist to fix her hair for her – I for one have noticed a change…
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By: Rio on December 3, 2008
at 1:38 PM
How delightful to open the blog and find a new one from you!! Keep it up for the next four years!! And the ooother commenters are right. Where’s the book? I would be a blockbuster.
The trolls keep talking about hatred. Have they ever listened to themselves?
On election night, compare the faces in McCain’s audience to Obama’s.
McCain’s made me ashamed to be an American and white, looking at the crowds faces.
Obama’s crowd was mixed and so full of hope for the future ( and HUGE!)
For the first time in 8 years I had some hope for my grandchildren.
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By: Grandma Katie on December 3, 2008
at 1:38 PM
Helen you rock my world! Keep em comin!
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By: ladysa on December 3, 2008
at 1:33 PM
Another Minnesotan chiming in with troutay, to prove Greg from Minnesota doesn’t represent us up here.
And to whoever called Palin & Co. “hard-core booger-eatin’ morons”…(Chalk, I think?)…THANK YOU. I will be giggling over that one all day. 🙂
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By: Tine on December 3, 2008
at 1:31 PM
Wonderful analysis again, Helen!
Sometimes a whole brain can be dangerous too. Imagine putting Palin’s half together with Greg’s and you’d get a doubly stupid, doubly dangerous Republitard. Let’s hope they each only stay with a half and the two shall never meet.
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By: Joe B. on December 3, 2008
at 1:28 PM
What pisses me off are those folks who keep saying to Helen “Blah, blah, Sarah Palin, blahdy, blah, 2012, blahdy blah blah, if you’re still around”.
How f*cking rude can you get? What ever happened to respecting your elders?
One thing you forgot to mention, Helen, was Palin’s accomplishments in the world of beauty pageants. That’s a biggie on her beefy resume. . .
In my opinion, I think people choose to be ignorant. Not stupid mind you, because no amount of reading can cure stupid.
Ignorance is not bliss.
These days ignorance has led to global terrorism, profound poverty and unimaginable civil suffering in Africa (and other places), and Americans (yes, our fellow countrymen) who believe, not think, BELIEVE that Obama is somehow dangerous.
What’s dangerous is 58,000,000 Americans who are so ignorant (and some so way stoopid) that they would defend the lies and corruption of those who claim to serve us, and vote for a sad shell of a former War hero and his nurse.
Love you all.
Hugs, too.
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By: skyewriter on December 3, 2008
at 1:20 PM
Helen, you rock. You make my day. Your observations are razor sharp and your wit is even sharper. Please continue to be vigilant about the antics of Ms Palin and others who would like to chip away at our precious Constitution and Bill of Rights. We’ve taken a tremendous step toward righting a whole bunch of wrongs in our country with the election of Barack Hussein Obama (I like to write that). We should a least give him a chance.
BTW, I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere, but Obama has a US Passport. You can’t get a passport without submitting an original (not a copy) birth certificate.
Passport requirements – proof of US citizenship
You can prove your US citizenship with one of the following:
* Original Birth Certificate (if born in the United States);
* or Old (undamaged) passport;
* or Original Certificate of Citizenship or FS-240, DS-1350 ( if born outside the US );
* or Original Certificate of Naturalization issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Office.
Note: A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth.
Just an observation.
Never stop speaking your mind! Thanks for the pie. I’ll be back. I mean it.
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By: Georgette on December 3, 2008
at 1:17 PM
At the time I write this there are 52 comments ahead of mine. That has happened just while I was off at the Medicare website getting my husband signed up for a new drug plan. Granted, the site was pretty slow and crowded this morning, but… Helen, you go girl…and all us readers, too!!!
greg, greg, greg… You will note the lack of capitol “g” I give your name in return for the lack of respect you gave President Elect Barack Obama.
I was worried John McCain might win this election. I worried until he a day after he announced his running mate, Sarah Palin. His choice of Sarah the pit bull with lipstick was his losing day. Not the crash of the economy. (Although his comment that all was fundamentally sound with the economy, a mere hours before the story broke, was pretty out of touch on his part, too.)
Republicans (like greg) have got to come to grips with their loss and decide what is best for their future. Polishing Sarah Palin for the comeback queen in 2012, just shows they have not learned anything from Nov. 4, 2008.
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By: BaBaBlackSheep on December 3, 2008
at 1:10 PM
Shoot. We have M. Bachmann, now we have Greg from Minnesota? I wish we could smoke out the rats so we know where they are coming from.
Not all Minnesotans are like these two people.
Excellent as always Ladies!!!
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By: troutay on December 3, 2008
at 1:07 PM
Thank you once again for an intelligent, thoughtful, and of course, darn funny piece of work. Greg could be a relative of mine. It makes me very very sad. Sometimes I wish I could given them a similar talking to.
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By: zoe on December 3, 2008
at 1:07 PM
OMG – Maybe just maybe I can be a proud American again…. -_- ……. This was such a spot on reply and answer……. I so wish that the people of GA would have done the right thing and tossed Chambliss on his ASS but shamefully they kept the idiot! Again thanks for the great post there! I am keeping the faith!!
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By: AzBearin on December 3, 2008
at 12:56 PM
I know why you can’t get off of the Palin topic: While she is somewhat as amusing as an impending train wreck, she also represents this small but powerful group of people who are very intent on dividing the country and keeping it that way. With the majority of the country having crossed the muddy river, ready for a fresh start and solutions to the string of clusterfu*ks over the past eight years, this group wants to keep us stuck deep in the mud.
Helen, sleep tonight knowing you’ll definitely leave the world in a better place. Your words mean so much to so many. Especially me. You give me hope for my daughter who is only seven but knows that Africa is a continent.
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By: MilleyB on December 3, 2008
at 12:51 PM
One of your best entries ever, but I agree with some others that there are a lot of people that don’t want to take their blinders off, even if it means they will actually see the light.
Keep spreading the good word in the wonderful way you do it.
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By: AG on December 3, 2008
at 12:50 PM
Words escape me. You rock.
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By: Amy on December 3, 2008
at 12:48 PM
Liz: Blunderwoman is outstanding.
I can see the designer cape (paid for with RNC $).
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By: MilleyB on December 3, 2008
at 12:44 PM
I. Can’t. BREATHE! I need an oxygen tank to read your blog. I am laughing too hard.
Seriously, Helen, thank you for giving Greg a spanking. I know this is not popular to do to a youngster, but sometimes this is the last resort.
The clarity of what you say just astounds me. You must have Matthew put all of your postings together and send out to publishers to make into a book. Volume I: The Palin Project.
Oh, and about Hillary: She is probably the smartest woman in the country. Comparing an accomplished woman out of one of the best law schools in the country to that she-tard is like comparing homemade apple pie to a McDonaldland pie. Yes, I thought you’d like that pie analogy.
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By: MilleyB on December 3, 2008
at 12:42 PM
*blows kisses to Helen*
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By: Chloe on December 3, 2008
at 12:40 PM
I so enjoy reading this.
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By: colepack on December 3, 2008
at 12:40 PM
Right on Helen…write ON!!!
The Wasilla Hillbillie (and Tine Fay) ~ In Her (SP) Own Words:
~ PEACE ~
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By: Whirled Peas on December 3, 2008
at 12:34 PM
P.S. Why do we give a rat’s behind what these 28% think? They’ve been wrong about everything from electing Bush, their support of the war and now Blunderwoman. They have no credibility whatsoever and should have their voting rights stripped.
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By: Liz on December 3, 2008
at 12:29 PM
Helen, I adore you and thank you. Thanks for being so smart, so opinionated, and so immune to bullshit.
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By: Krystal on December 3, 2008
at 12:29 PM
OMG I just copied your link and sent it to everyone I know. Thanks again for the morning chuckle.
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By: Liz on December 3, 2008
at 12:27 PM
Helen, I love you! I am definitely a member of your Piece of Pie Club. Even though you’d like to move off the Sarah Palin topic, I think it’s important to remain vigilant. If we ignore her, she won’t just go away. No. Convinced of her own importance by the idiots and morons who surround her, she’ll just keep working away in the background, until she again bursts forth on the national scene in all her glory — devoid of rational thought, blissfully unaware of the facts, and unable to construct a coherent sentence. The GOP’s 28% should be appalled that this is the best they have to offer the American people.
Write on, Helen!
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By: Barbara on December 3, 2008
at 12:24 PM
Thank you Helen. xoxoxo
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By: Harry on December 3, 2008
at 12:18 PM
I just have to tell you. I am sitting here just laughing and laughing. I hope you realize how talented you are.
And to Greg: You went there fool. Care to try again?
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By: Chalk on December 3, 2008
at 12:13 PM
I was entertained as usual this morning! The last two paragraphs were very right on and serious though, and I hope all of your readers got that point. As much as I would love to ignore the Palin factor, I don’t think it’s going away….that definitely requires vigilance.
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By: Chris on December 3, 2008
at 12:12 PM
Awesome as always. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. . . if Palin gets elected in 2012, it means that the Myans were right. It’s the end of the world!
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By: acseverson on December 3, 2008
at 12:12 PM
“He wasn’t even legally a United States citizen and doesn’t have any documentation whatsoever to prove that he was baptized or that he ever attended a single day in school. We are not sure he was actually ever born at all.”
I love how Obama’s birth certificate became such a big deal. But McCain’s never came up. McCain was born in Panama. Did they bother to check and make sure that his mother gave birth within the borders of the Naval Air Station, No. I’m still demanding proof!
Thanks for the post Helen. Keep up the good work. 🙂
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By: Erica on December 3, 2008
at 12:08 PM
I agree with those who write that the naysayers will never come to change their opinions even in the face of silly, inconsequential things like facts and logic. But, Helen, that doesn’t mean you should give up; we enjoy your writing too much for that! Even when “for entertainment purposes only”, it is far more valuable than the dreck we get from sources like FauxNews.
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By: POAndrea on December 3, 2008
at 12:06 PM
“By comparison over 200,000 people have visited this blog of mine and I’m pretty sure my shit still stinks.”
OMG! I nearly spewed a mouthful of pop all over my screen!
I know I’ve said it before, but I do love you ladies. I’ve shared your blog with my friends and family too.
Keep up the good work, and illegitimi non carborundum
Jeffrey
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By: Jeffrey on December 3, 2008
at 12:06 PM
Genius. Pure genius.
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By: Deirdre on December 3, 2008
at 12:01 PM
Spot On, Helen! As usual, you are saying what a lot of us are thinking. You are dealing with critics with the basic intelligence of your average fern. ( no disrespect intended to the ferns) These are the same people who called Obama uppity. It seems they cannot understand anyone who speaks in complete sentences. They are frightened by the prospect that the United States may not be seen by the rest of the world as total idiots. As a Texan who has NEVER voted for the shrub, I can assure people there are plenty of us who have spent 8 years being thoroughly embarrassed at his brand of leadership.
Keep up the great posts, you make my day. JudieJ – Lubbock,Tx
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By: JudieJ on December 3, 2008
at 12:00 PM
You made me laugh out loud more than once. Thank you. You rock!
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By: Alison on December 3, 2008
at 11:59 AM
THANKS once again, Helen, for enlightening some and allowing the rest of us to nod in agreement with you.
Everyone, EVERYONE deserves to be better off than their parents were with hard work and perseverance. Hasn’t been that way for most of us the last 8 years. Time for WE THE PEOPLE to get behind and support change we can believe in.
God bless you!
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By: Cher on December 3, 2008
at 11:59 AM
Oh my god woman!!! You crack me up and ALWAYS hit the nail on the head. Keep on keeping on lady. LOVE YOU!
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By: DAWN on December 3, 2008
at 11:57 AM
Wonderfully funny and witty post!
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By: Tanya on December 3, 2008
at 11:57 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
If I were to meet you, I’d give you the biggest hug ever!
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By: knittergran on December 3, 2008
at 11:53 AM
One more thing. Do you write your own titles for each post.? They are always so damn funny. As someone with a little marketing backgroud, I also think they are excellent attention grabbers.
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By: Chalk on December 3, 2008
at 11:52 AM
Fabulous, just fabulous!
I know you’d like to move off of the Idiot… I mean Palin (the two *are* interchangeable after all) topic but I really think you’re doing the country a great service by continuing to point out this idiocy as you see it. As long as all of that stupid keeps falling out of Pailn’s mouth and off of the keyboards of some who reply to your posts, you should keep providing your well reasoned smackdowns. Maybe if these people keep receiving this feedback (that they’re idiots that is) it may finally begin to sink in.
Thanks and keep up the great work!
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By: Alpine on December 3, 2008
at 11:52 AM
One more thing, Palin is cunning, but she is still not too bright. Please, at least I can tell you what things I read. When I listened to her in the debate, or answering questions, I just scratched my head and said, “What the hell are you trying to say?” She may be on the national stage, but I can tell an opportunist when I see one.
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By: larkohio on December 3, 2008
at 11:50 AM
Once again you’ve made my day. Thank you for your thoughtful (and thought-provoking) post, and thank you for pointing out the half truths and flat-out lies told by Ann Coulter, Rush, Hannity, and all his Faux News friends. I wish Greg would get it. I wish he and the other 58 million idiots out there would do a little of their own research and stop barfing out Faux News talking points. But I don’t think people like Greg have the brains or the balls to know how. Luckily for us, you do! XO
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By: Allison on December 3, 2008
at 11:49 AM
Helen, we will see her again and again and again. Did you watch the governors’ press conference yesterday on C-Span after their meeting with Obama & Biden? There she stood (and stood out all in red) with a piece of paper in her hand (the only one with a piece of paper) itching for a speech — and a reporter did oblige her.
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By: IBH on December 3, 2008
at 11:48 AM
Helen, I love you! You are so smart.
Greg, this Obama voter voted for him because I believe he will bring a POSITIVE change to America, and not just because of the economy. However, the economy is terribly important, (because we all like to eat and stuff) and Bush and Company has totally taken us down the tubes.
It makes me so sad that my generation had to deal with Vietnam, and now my children’s generation have Vietnam in the desert. I want our troops home. I am tired of us spending the lives of our children on these endless wars.
Keep up the good fight, Helen, you are awesome!
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By: larkohio on December 3, 2008
at 11:47 AM
“Trying to talk sense to them is like trying to tell a frightened three-year-old that there’s really no monster under the bed. Their filter screams “monster” which means there must be a monster, even if they have to create one.”
Yes. But who doesn’t try to calm the three-year-old down until she finally realizes that monsters are only in your dreams…. and in the Alaskan governor’s mansion.
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By: Chalk on December 3, 2008
at 11:47 AM
Fisking an idiot may not be terribly hard but it can be a total hoot to read when written by a Master.
Guys like this have spent the past 8 years convincing themselves that George Bush is a great President and that his decisions were good. Not only won’t they not give this up (because Republicans are never wrong or bad) they can’t (because this has fried a few synapses and rewired their brain).
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By: ET on December 3, 2008
at 11:47 AM
Oh Helen, you just sat that young man down hard and let him have a piece of your mind. Someone should have probably done that in his formative years.
Thank you for suffering the fools for our education and amusement. You definitely rock my world!
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By: Archangel Gabrielle on December 3, 2008
at 11:46 AM
Thank God for you. Despite our “Left-Wing, Liberal, Socialist” media, I sometimes find myself all alone thinking the exact same things you blog about and others respond to here. Thank God a co-worker of mine turned me on to you two! I agree wholeheartedly, a book deal needs to be in the works!
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By: Jason on December 3, 2008
at 11:43 AM
Very well said, Helen! I’m happy to have found yuour blog.
Happy Holidays!
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By: Joe M on December 3, 2008
at 11:42 AM
Helen–I love you. Please adopt my husband and I to be your children…(I am 44)..heheheh.
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By: Suzan on December 3, 2008
at 11:41 AM
Helen,
A lot of recent research has shown that people, especially less educated people, tend to pass”facts” through their own set of filters and then decide what reality is. If the reality they are seeing and hearing doesn’t square with the reality of their filters, they reinterpret it until it does.
So people like Greg have a huge set of filters that they’ve gotten from Rush and Faux News and other sources and they sure aren’t going to let any real facts screw up their perceptions.
For example, the people of North Korea have been told over and over and over, via propaganda, that the U.S. is just outside the door waiting to attack them. They believe it with all their heart and soul. So they agreed to let a dictator rule and to devote massive amounts of their resources towards a huge army that is completely out of proportion with the size of their country, despite the fact that people are starving to death. All of this starvation and misery can be rightfully blamed on the U.S., which, of course, would be over there in a New York minute if it weren’t for the North Koreans strong military and nuclear weapons.
Our republican propaganda machine has worked the same trick on so many people in this country. They have played upon the insecurities of these people and racheted up the anxiety until these people are so in fear of the ominous threat of losing what they know as “America” that they see demons, terrorists, and communists everywhere.
Trying to talk sense to them is like trying to tell a frightened three-year-old that there’s really no monster under the bed. Their filter screams “monster” which means there must be a monster, even if they have to create one.
So, although your responses to people like Greg are interesting to read, don’t count on them convincing any of these people of anything. They’ve already selected a reality and will stick to it until way past the time they’ve lost their retirement funds, lost their homes and jobs, and are wondering what time the soup kitchen opens. They’ll still be blaming the democrats for all of it.
If the GOP does try to put Palin out there as a presidential candidate in 2012, I think we could count that as a gift. All the centrist and intelligent GOP members would instantly leave the party (Didn’t we see some of that this time?) and the only ones left would be the hard core booger-eatin’ morons who think Palin’s just what this country needs. And fortunately, there are not enough of them to elect a president.
Thanks for keeping us all informed.
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By: Lane on December 3, 2008
at 11:41 AM
Helen, God forbid gals like us throw some well- deserved trash talk towards the GOP’s way. Sean Hannity and Fatty Ole’ Limbaugh are heralded as heroes to the Republican base. Afterall all, those two dopes spew more hatred on a daily basis than any one of those terrorists in Mumbai had in one of their pinkies. Yes, I compared them to terrorists, anyone who uses their hate as a weapon, whether it be with guns or words, still hurts innocent people. ( Just ask that ass Karl Rove, and, Palin, Hannity, Coulter and Limbaugh are not innocent people!)
By the way Helen, as long as that idiot Palin is still around, I’ll continue to blog about her myself. I think its our way of wishing her away.
Here’s to that wish coming true!
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By: democraddict on December 3, 2008
at 11:39 AM
Helen! You are beautiful!
Here is a bit of an article about Max Cleland from
Salon.com
In 1999, Cleland received a phone call from a former Marine who had just watched a History Channel show on combat medics in which Max was interviewed. The caller, David Lloyd, had been in the helicopter with Max. He was also the first to come to his aid, tying off the bleeding on one of his legs with a tourniquet fashioned from strips from Max’s uniform and web belt. Lloyd then attended to a young soldier who was wounded by the blast. The soldier kept crying, “It’s all my fault!” Fresh out of basic training and only in-country for several days, he had foolishly straightened out the pins of his grenades for quick access. That made them live grenades. When one fell loose from his pack, it exploded.
Lloyd’s call changed Cleland’s life. “David had given me an invaluable gift, the gift of peace of mind,” Cleland said. “Finally, I can say, ‘It was not my fault.’ That is a great burden off my shoulders. It makes all the other burdens in my life seem less significant and more manageable.”
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By: JuneauJoe on December 3, 2008
at 11:39 AM
Kudos Helen. Thanks for the correct information on Max Cleland (which I already knew, being a resident of Georgia but the right-wing wingnuts can’t accept as truth). As you may know, Chambliss (the right-wing wingnut in chief) defeated Jim Martin for the Senate seat here, denying the Democrats a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.
Unfortunately, with Chambliss’ winning, the Republicans will take this as gospel that Sarah Palin’s visit on Monday turned the tide, thus setting her up to be their standard carrier in 2012.
All I can say to that is, God help us all if that happens. Helen, do stay in good health-you may be the only one standing between Caribou Barbie and 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
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By: Gail on December 3, 2008
at 11:35 AM
“We are not sure he was actually ever born at all. ”
My god woman. Where do you come up wiht this stuff. PLEASE. PLEASE write a book. Someone out there offer her a book. PLEASE!!!!
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By: Chalk on December 3, 2008
at 11:33 AM
My only child is a Foreign Service Officer with the Dept. of State and is currently posted in a “hardship country”…in other words a dangerous place. The thought that Palin could end up so close to the Presidency was my worst nightmare until 10 p.m. CT, Nov. 4th. I know my child will always be in harm’s way by nature of her job. But I rest a little easier knowing that she will represent the policies of Obama and damned, if Hillary will be her boss. You see, I live in Arkansas. And we love our Clintons!
My kid is the one who directed me to this blog. So Helen, please keep it coming. And know that here, and in a faraway embassy, you are making our day. Although I’ve quit reading your blog while drinking my morning coffee…do you know how damned hard it is to clean that crap out of the keyboard?
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By: Delta Mom on December 3, 2008
at 11:29 AM
Helen,
This was you best yet, although I agree that for Greg it will fall upon deaf or deluded ears. He has his right to his opinion. I for one cannot fathom how anyone can not hear Sarah Palin speak and not hear the stupid that falls out. My term for that is that she has “Shit in Mouth Disease”. She opens her mouth and shit just keeps falling out.
I too woke up this morning and looked in the mirror and saw the bitch looking back at me. We all need a little bit of bitch. It means that women are no longer happy to take a back seat and remain quiet while idiocy abounds.
I loved the part about Obama not doing a good job. Did you hear the one where Palin said that McCain had such a harder road to climb for the election? Are you kidding me…..? A lifetime member of the governmental fraternity, harder road? What?
You go girl. I love your posts and I love all the dialogue that ensues.
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By: Alaskan on December 3, 2008
at 11:24 AM
I love your blog, keep up the great work.
Let me respond to this nugget:
“As for Gov. Palin, why don’t you tell us your life’s accomplishments, so that we can stack them up against hers?”
I read crapola like this all the time on the blogosphere from rightwingers. I have to wonder if they all check their brain at the door.
HELLLOOOOO!
Hey Greg, Helen isn’t running for VP!! What is the point of her listing her accomplishments? It’s like telling a movie critic they can’t critique a movie unless they can play all the parts him- or herself.
The stupid out there is beyond amazing. Thanks for yet another incredible and well thought-out post.
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By: HelenWheels on December 3, 2008
at 11:18 AM
Thanks, Helen. Great post.
And it’s worth noting that, according to the Max Cleland entry in Wikipedia, the grenade that exploded wasn’t even Max’s, but instead belonged to an inexperienced private.
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By: GearHead on December 3, 2008
at 11:16 AM
Thank you. You say what others are also thinking, and you say it so well.
I’m looking forward to Obama and his plans. Imagine…all our troops home safe and sound where they belong. It hurts my heart to see our brave men and women going off to a war we didn’t need.
Keep on posting. The world needs more people like you.
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By: Shauna on December 3, 2008
at 11:16 AM
Oh Helen, I love you. Thank you for not letting Greg’s comments slide without rebuttal. There are a lot of idiots in this world who think they know something. (I like to call them the “uninformed with opinions.”) Too bad someone taught them how to type and not how to research.
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By: urbanite425 on December 3, 2008
at 11:14 AM
Thank You Helen! Well said!
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By: JuneauJoe on December 3, 2008
at 11:12 AM
I think we might be missing the point. It can happen. It has happened. Idiots can take over the country if we let them. Yes. We elected Barack Obama but have we learned nothing. If we cannot stand strong now and keep our voices loud then the tide will turn again. Clearly the 28% has demonstrated that they do not intend to take a back seat. If Helen’s ratns change even one mind then she has accomplished more that many of us. Go Helen. Blog Helen. Be Helen!!!!!!
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By: Bett on December 3, 2008
at 11:12 AM
Bravo!!
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By: Katie on December 3, 2008
at 11:11 AM
Helen: You are right on about your response to Greg from Minnesota. He is like many of our Republican friends who cherry pick information to support their views and pass this false information along to everyone via e-mail. I call these people “friends” because they are as long as we don’t discuss politics. I wish there were more people like you who speak the truth. I am not a Republican or a Democrat. I vote for the person not the party. Maybe more people should think about doing that.
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By: Lois Winquist on December 3, 2008
at 11:11 AM
yes there will just always be these people that just won’t get it..and therefore you will probably not be able to drop it. And why are people so focused on 2012? so they can remove the tail between their legs? when the world has so much healing to do? get over it people!! We the people have spoken, just move on and hope that this country and Universe begin to turn around. It is exactly this stupidity that got us here in the first place. Toddlers who cannot play nice in the sandbox.
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By: dina on December 3, 2008
at 11:05 AM
Oh Helen I feel your pain. While I applaud you for taking the time to respond to Greg and his like-minded friends, I can’t help but think of that caution about teaching a pig to sing, or the maxim about arguing with drunks or idiots. I’m sure you know how those bon mots end.
Anyway, I wanted to share that I too get the creepy-crawlies whenever I see/hear/think about Sarah Palin. After the election when Keith Olbermann was doing his “Worst person in the world” segment, he would begin to talk about Bill Kristol or Bill O’Reilly and then he would say “Wait a minute! You don’t matter anymore!” I’m taking the same attitude to Palin, and also hoping that if enough of us ignore her, she will go away.
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By: Amy on December 3, 2008
at 10:59 AM
Well said Helen. If only everyone paid as much attention as you!
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By: JB on December 3, 2008
at 10:58 AM
Amen!
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By: Valerie on December 3, 2008
at 10:56 AM
“Katie Couric stuck a microphone in front of your favorite moose hunter and when she opened her mouth a whole lot of stupid came falling out. ”
“Of course “stupid on Fox News” is kind of redundant.”
“When Sarah Palin looked in the mirror I imagine she see saw a bitch. But that is just a guess on my part. She might not have looked.”
“I am assuming, of course, that you, Dear Greg, have all of your limbs. I know Ann Coulter does because I often wish she would cross them when she sits. ”
” In total, less than 200,000 Alaskans pulled a lever to get her all the way from the PTA to Governor. By comparison over 200,000 people have visited this blog od mine and I’m pretty sure my shit still stinks.”
“And on her baptismal record it actually states that she was chosen by God to bring oil from the frozen tundra to the rest of the free world. You are so right Greg. What a lame accomplishment.”
OK. That was six times I spit my coffee out. You owe me a new cup. LMAO
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By: Bett on December 3, 2008
at 10:54 AM
Thanks for the post. Unfortunately, I think people like Greg are just never going to get it.
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By: Anonymous on December 3, 2008
at 10:50 AM