For those of you who actually read more than one article deep, you know that I was all ready to leave Sarah Palin behind a couple of weeks ago. But sometimes I don’t always do what I say - kind of the way Sarah said she was going back to do her job as governor. Wishful thinking on both our parts, I guess.
It seems that a lot of people are upset with me because I am being unfair to the Governor of Oil Land. They claim that I really don’t know her… that I only know the biased view of her as portrayed by the evil liberal media. Folks, I’ve got news for you. Katie Couric stuck a microphone in front of your favorite moose hunter and when she opened her mouth a whole lot of stupid came falling out. Seriously. Defend “You can see Russia from Alaska” when asked about national defense. It doesn’t matter on what channel or to what reporter you say that. It’s stupid on CBS and CNN and it’s stupid on Fox News. Of course “stupid on Fox News” is kind of redundant.
While there are many comments left here, some of you actually take the time to send letters to the email set up by my grandson. I do try to respond when I can. However, the email I have copied below needed a bit more than a response. I felt it needed a little dissecting for all to see. So here we go again…
RE: Sarah Palin Sit Down and Shut the Hell Up
This is a load of crap, and you have the nerve to call Gov. Palin a bitch, well look in the mirror.
Oh, by the way, Max Cleland, former head of the Veterans Administration, did not lose his limbs in battle, he was dumb enough to drop a grenade, then reach down to pick it up. Any basic trainee knows that you don’t do that. His own stupidity resulted in the loss of his limbs, and also put the men around him in danger.
As for Gov. Palin, why don’t you tell us your life’s accomplishments, so that we can stack them up against hers? She went from being a member of the town council, to mayor, to Governor of her state, and she did it all on her own, no help from a rich, politically connected family, and she did not ride her husbands coattails like Hillary did. She did it herself with hard work, grit and determination.
Yes, Georgia will get their first look at her, and the 4 rallies that she is taking part in will draw maximum capacity crowds at each venue, probably closs to 100,000 Georgians will be attending these events. She will be instrumental in handing obama his his defeat, and he hasn’t even taken office yet. Come 2010 when she campaigns nationwide on behalf of Republican candidates, she will be key to defeating a lot of democrats.
You are going to see and hear a lot from her over the next 4 years, probably longer, a lot longer, so you may as well get used to it. If you’re still around in 2012, you may even see her defeat obama for the presidency.
I believe the bitterness and hatred that spews forth from people such as yourself is due to the fact that you known your candidate didn’t do so well. With $700 million, and thousands of media cheerleaders, and millions of bloggers on his side, it still took a financial meltdown to pull him across the finish line. You also know that anger over the economy is what made people vote for him, not that they liked him, and anger is easily redirected once he and his Clinton era retreads can’t deliver on all the fancy promises he made.
Greg in Minnesota
Greg Dear, thanks for writing. When I looked in the mirror today I saw an old woman who needs to make an appointment at the beauty parlour. Thanks for reminding me to look. I sometimes forget. When Sarah Palin looked in the mirror I imagine she see saw a bitch. But that is just a guess on my part. She might not have looked.
As for Cleland’s service to his country. He lost three limbs while on combat duty in Vietnam. A little research will show you that Ann Coulter thinks he is just an idiot who blew himself up whilst on his way to have a beer with the boys. Now, if you ask me, the limbs Cleland lost were as important to him as any other limbs left on the battlefield by valiant soldiers. The exact details of how they were lost are probably only really important to someone who still has all his or her limbs. I am assuming, of course, that you, Dear Greg, have all of your limbs. I know Ann Coulter does because I often wish she would cross them when she sits.
But you have decided to provide only parts of the information. Cherry picking through information to support your cause seems to be a habit within the Republican party these days. When you and Ann Coulter do it, a brave soldier’s reputation is tarnished. When George Bush and Dick Cheney do it, thousands more soldiers are put in harms way, including my beautiful nephew. So Greg, here are some more of the details about Max Cleland’s time in Vietnam:
First of all, Cleland was wounded during the siege of Khe Sanh. Can you say that with me? Keee-Son.
Now that is all I really need to know, but because I too have all my limbs I feel the need to copy some more from the research I did:
He [Cleland] had less than a week earlier already earned commendations for heroism during some of the bloodiest combat of the whole Khe Sanh siege — combat missions for which he had volunteered, so as to relieve stranded Marines and Army infantry. The order in which the President awarded him the Silver Star reads:
“Captain Cleland distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous action on 4 April 1968, while serving as communications officer of the 2nd Battalion, 12th Calvary during an enemy attack near Khe Sanh, Republic of Vietnam. When the battalion command post came under a heavy enemy rocket and mortar attack, Capt. Cleland, disregarding his own safety, exposed himself to the rocket barrage as he left his covered position to administer first aid to his wounded comrades. He then assisted in moving the injured personnel to covered positions. Continuing to expose himself, Capt. Cleland organized his men into a work party to repair the battalion communications equipment, which had been damaged by enemy fire. His gallant action is in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflects great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army.”
But don’t worry Greg. I really can’t criticize you for making fun of a handicapped veteran. Afterall, I’ve written a blog making fun of a mentally handicapped governor of Alaska. By the way, I just looked in the mirror again…. Now I am beginning to see just a little bit of a bitch behind that messy hair of mine.
But let’s move on to your comments about Hillary Clinton. While I am indeed a fan of her husband, I actually think Hilary’s accomplishments are far greater. She, like many women, succeeded despite her husband’s coattails and not because of them.
But you do make a point about Governor Palin’s accomplishments. All on her own, she went from being a member of a town council, to mayor to governor of Alaska. In total, less than 200,000 Alaskans pulled a lever to get her all the way from the PTA to Governor. By comparison over 200,000 people have visited this blog of mine and I’m pretty sure my shit still stinks.
But Greg, I must say that I am particularly impressed with your ability to read the minds of millions of Americans who voted for Obama. That’s guite a talent. I wonder if you can read my mind right now. Wait a minute, I need to take off my glasses for a second to wipe away the tears…. Sorry about that folks, I was haivng one of those laughs… one of those hard laughs that brings tears to your eyes because that last part of Greg’s letter is just such a hoot - the part about Obama not really having done a good job getting elected.
A half black, half white man with the name Barack Hussein Obama just became President of the United States. He wasn’t even legally a United States citizen and doesn’t have any documentation whatsoever to prove that he was baptized or that he ever attended a single day in school. We are not sure he was actually ever born at all. He beat a war hero whose running mate was an amazing woman who went all of the way from the PTA in Wasilla to the Governor’s mansion in Juneau. And she has documentation proving that she attended five colleges before finally getting a BA in journalism. And on her baptismal record it actually states that she was chosen by God to drill in the area that is arguably one of God’s most beautiful creations to bring oil to the rest of the free world. You are so right Greg. What a lame accomplishment. Clearly that idiot from Alaska can do better. After all, Obama has all four limbs while Palin only has half a brain.
Now, I really hope to leave Palin behind with this article. But I think you all need to know why this is so important to me. Why, if I could, I would try to respond to all 58 million Americans who wanted to put her one heartbeat away from the greatest office in the land. Get ready because I think this soapbox just might be big even for someone of my size:
When you are a mother and a grandmother you take little things like war (or world peace), the environment and education seriously. Why? Because when you leave this world you want to know that you did everything possible to leave it a better place for your children and their children.
Eight years ago, we were preparing to enter the 21st Century stonger and more prosperous than ever before. The national debt was coming down along with the national crime rate and the unemlpoyment rate, while the rates of home ownership and college admissions were on the rise. There was even talk that maybe, just maybe peace in the Middle East might happen one day. We were finally beginning to understand the harm we were inflicting on the environment, but we knew what needed to be done to reverse that trend. Technological advances in medicine, communication, energy consumption… the future was bright. Our children’s future was bright. The greatest generation was preparing to leave this world a better place…
And then we screwed up. We elected an idiot to be President because we wanted to have a beer with him. Funny how we wanted to have a beer with someone who admitted to abusing alcohol until the age of 40. But hey, nothing about that election makes much sense. The popular vote went to the guy who wanted to end our dependency on fossil fuels, but the courts gave the election to the other guy – the guy who campaigned on restoring honor to the White House. If ever there was a time when we needed someone to govern to the middle – well that would have been the time.
But you all know how this played out. And if you have children and grandchildren… well damn it. We can’t make that mistake again. The cost is too high. And in my most humble of opinions, when you put a microphone in front of someone who wants to be President and a whole lot of stupid falls out of their mouth… Well, I no longer take that lightly because I now know that a whole lot of stupid can still be elected President if you’re not paying attention.
Thanks everyone. I promise to try and move off the Palin topic soon. I’ve just never been good at ignoring idiots. You see, in a country that offers you a free public education and free public libraries there is just no excuse for ignorance… except ignorance itself.
Please stop by again soon. I mean it.
Note that this is also evidence of the power of an eleigaviznng community. Did this originate with planned parenthood? And even if it did, would it be moving around the social sphere without networked community?
By: Piyush on December 16, 2012
at 12:35 PM
Hi gang and Colorful,
I thought I would respond to a number of your comments. You are obviously intelligent and express yourself well in English in your typing. I thank you for your prayers for us. We can all use all the help we can get from any quarter. You begin with the Lord’s Prayer but then go into some other language that few if any of us can understand. Perhaps in the same way that we don’t understand Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke. We cannot read it.
I’m sure you are sincere in your belief just as I am. Someone once said, I don’t remember who, “To be kind is to be happy.” You have said some very unkind things to us but as the Lord’s Prayer says, “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us”. I think we can forgive you.
You enumerated our ‘sins’ such as homosexuality. What exactly did Jesus himself have to say about homosexuals, prostitutes and tax collectors? (I am an old broad, age 79, but not that old! I wasn’t around to personally hear his words over 2000 years ago.)
You are condemning us to hell unless we “repent”. I don’t think that is your job. That’s God’s job to judge who goes to heaven and who goes to hell, not yours.
I think most of us here are just your garden-variety sinners, a parking ticket here, losing our temper from time to time, etc. Didn’t Jesus lose his temper in the Temple about the ‘Money Changers’? He was human too. I don’t believe a merciful heavenly father would condemn anyone to hell for all eternity for those silly little sins.
As to killing babies. None of us condone killing babies. What we do STRONGLY OBJECT to is sending our children and grandchildren off to be killed in an unnecessary war about which we were lied to. OUR children and grandchildren were once OUR babies!!!!! And how about an AMERICAN missile that killed an Iraqi grandfather and blew both legs off his four-year old grandson? The grandson is now in the United States being fitted with prosthetic legs thanks to the generosity of SOME American people. Who is responsible for sending that missile?
I believe that Jesus had a sense of humor. Didn’t he say something about it being easier to put a camel through the eye of a needle that for a rich man to get into heaven? That analogy is pretty funny!!!!!
George Bush is a very rich man even if he does pray everyday. He has a multi acre ranch in Crawford, Texas and just moved into a multi-million dollar house in Dallas. I doubt if he has much of a mortgage on either of them or is in danger of being evicted.
I do not personally fear death. In my long life, three times, I looked death squarely in the face, said my prayers and waited calmly to see what happened. Twice back in the 1950’s in clunky old propeller driven aircraft. Fortunately, both times the planes were in the hands of competent professional pilots and they landed safely. I trusted them. ( We bellyed in with no landing gear. Out the window, I could watch SIX fire trucks racing along the runway to meet us IF and when we landed.) I have flown in modern planes hundreds of times since without incident.
The third time, I was 33 years old and had a ruptured Ectopic pregnancy. I was bleeding to death. The seven week old embryo was already dead. Again I was in the hands of competent professional medical personnel who knew exactly what was necessary to save my life. I trusted them. I said my prayers and calmly waited for the doctors to do their job. They did. The next year I successfully had our third son.
My Guardian Angel was working overtime then and still does! I also had family and friends who loved me and helped me through the rough times.
If we are human, we don’t look forward to death. I think we fear the PAIN OF DYING more than death itself if we have faith. No one wants to be hurting for a very long time.
So please come on in, sit down, have a cup of tea and some pie. We have a wide variety of pies made by some wonderful cooks here. Do you prefer fruit pies or cream pies? Let us get to know you. You are not alone anymore. We will be kind to you. I think we can help you come to grips with your fear of death, learn to express your love and enjoy the life God gave you.
Aloha!
Jean
By: Jean on February 1, 2009
at 2:09 AM
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By: I’m in love with this woman. « Doom’s World on January 24, 2009
at 2:34 AM
Thanks for putting Palin’s popularity in its true perspective. Her 80% approval rating in a state that has less than a million people doesn’t really make her very popular. Especially when you consider that most of the voters in Alaska are probably men that work in remote areas and then vote with the head that’s not on top of their neck. Yes, she’s attractive, but the rest of the country is mostly women and we know better than to vote for a woman who’s one bottle of peroxide away from being a Dumb Blonde.
You have a lot more readers than visitors to your blog. My octagenarian mother had only two sisters. Their names are Helen and Margaret, neither of them can carry on a meaningful conversation with her anymore. Reading your blog makes her feel closer to them. But the print is so small – even with the largest text size – that I copy it to a document and then blow it up and print it out so she and her friends can read it. Thanks for giving her a few laughs to look forward to every few days.
By: Tina on December 14, 2008
at 11:50 AM
Greg, quit wacking off to Palin’s photo and pay attention: Sarah Palin will NOT be president, EVER! I can tell you absolutely, positively that America will not elect her or any other religious fundamentlist to lead our country again. However, Bush just admitted that he doesn’t believe the bible to be the word of god and that he doesn’t believe in Creationism. Well, ain’t that a hoot! He played you fools all along! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!! Hmmm, by admitting you don’t believe Adam and Eve was a true story, you are admitting that the original sin didn’t happen. If the original sin didn’t happen, then men/women aren’t condemned sinners. If we aren’t sinners, then what the hell did god send his “son” to die for us then? Hmmmm, I here the sounds of fundalmentalists’ heads exploding!
Getting back to my point:
If you think the effort to get Obama elected was impressive, the effort to relect Obama will LEAVE YOU SPEECHLESS AND CRYING FOR YEARS!!!! Your pathetic little party has been destroyed. You are left with religious nut jobs (Huckabee, Romney, Palin) vieing for the scraps. So bring that bitch on! We’ll take her down again. And it’ll be even more satisfying the second time.
By: Steph on December 12, 2008
at 3:58 PM
Helen, you make it all make sense. I’ll never forget the shear horror in my mother’s eyes when the court selected this idiot. Although I too, was upset, I had no idea he would do THIS much damage. If McCain/Palin had won this time, I SERIOUSLY would have had to leave the country.
By: TrueBlueCoondog on December 10, 2008
at 4:01 PM
Greg….you’re an idiot!
By: Eyes Wide Open on December 10, 2008
at 3:49 AM
Oops, Mike, thanks for the heads up. Must be the remnants of jet lag affecting me still! You are dead right and Helen’s statement is thus accurate. Sorry, Helen.
By: Rui Semblano on December 9, 2008
at 9:38 PM
Absolutely a great post
By: Mamie Jones on December 9, 2008
at 12:32 PM
Thank you!
By: Vasilly on December 9, 2008
at 12:09 AM
That was an amazing post.
And Rui, right now, we’re almost to 2009. Eight years ago, when Bush was elected, it was November 2000. Right before Jan. 1st, 2001.
Hah! I’m a better pedant than you.
By: Mike on December 8, 2008
at 6:17 PM
Dear Helen,
Don’t get me wrong, I love you and Margaret and most of what you two write but on this post you got one thing wrong that always gets on my nerves (smile): “Eight years ago, we were preparing to enter the 21st Century”…
Helen, the first day of the 21st century was January 1st 2001. The year 2000 was the 100th year of the 20th century and December 31st 2000 it’s last day.
Take care and keep up this excellent blog!
Merry Christmas!
Rui
By: Rui Semblano on December 7, 2008
at 7:02 PM
Dear Elizabeth,
Regarding your thoughtful comments above, may I suggest that you drop the word ‘weird’ from your vocabulary. It definitely DOES NOT apply to you! I think you are quite an astute young woman.
I only studied math as far as Analytical Geometry and Trig, since my primary interests and life were in a different direction. In retrospect, I now realize that math studies are invaluable in developing a disciplined and analytical mind. We need all of those we can get!
Carry on and ace that test!
Aloha!
Jean
By: Jean on December 7, 2008
at 5:43 PM
The tone of that fool’s letter said it all. These people aren’t patriots and they sure as hell aren’t gentlemen. Congrats on building a witty and insightful post around that reject’s bile.
By: Max on December 7, 2008
at 5:28 PM
Helen, you are my hero.
By: GrandmaYiaYia on December 7, 2008
at 4:09 PM
OH MY GAAAAAAAA..please keep writing. I just read the headline and collapsed in laughter to the point of tears and I couldn’t stop. My family started laughing not even knowing why and the cat left the room. Now that’s a laugh. My stomach hurts, my eyes are swollen and I need a cup of coffee. Thanks so much for that once a year, deep belly laugh. You are wonderful and treasured. hugs
By: fets on December 7, 2008
at 3:40 PM
“Welcome to Florida where we now face the real possibility that Jeb the Rightful Heir Bush will run for the Senate seat being vacated by Mel Do-Nothing Martinez. Of course, when Jeb left the gubnor’s office, he handed the keys to George The Tanner Hamilton’s cousin, Charlie Crispy Crist. So it looks like political dynasties will continue. . .now we know what happened to the last royal family of Russia. . .they immigrated to Texas. . .”
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I have a lot of compassion for people living in Florida. I had no idea how screwed up your voting system is and how much voting fraud has occurred over the years until the 2000 election.
I was listening to Randi Rhodes at the time and her she was talking on the air with her producer, who also lives in Florida. Anyway, they started reminiscing about the voting fraud gambits that have been pulled in Florida, and they ended up laughing so hard that they could hardly breathe.
I think one has had to have suffered a lot of voting fraud for the pure absuridity of the shit they’ve tried to be considered funny.
I don’t know how Jeb will do in politics in the future. The Bush name is a dead franchise right now, and it’s not going to get better as we sink into an economic depression.
By: Political Amazon on December 7, 2008
at 2:46 PM
“I am your cross to carry???
You mean, you replaced Jesus by me? I am really honored but this is too much honor. I prefer being president. I just can’t waiiiiiiit to get elected! Oh and it’s all about job creation, too”
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No, Sarah. Eyes front and listen quietly while I explain it to you. Please save your questions for last.
In the story of Jesus’ crucifixion, the cross Jesus carried and upon which he died was very, very heavy. It was a burden which he carried, and which provided the frame for his torture and murder.
If you are called a “cross to carry,” it means that you are a heavy burden.
Do you understand? Quit fussing with your hair! It means you are a burden that drags us down. A dead weight. Something that saps our will to live.
Is that any more clear?
By: Political Amazon on December 7, 2008
at 2:40 PM
“Also, in reading some of the links mentioned in this thread , it seems possible to draw a conclusion that the way we interpret material is based in part on whether or not we have a liberal type of brain or a conservative…”
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Yes, that’s true, but how we interpret it is also based on a lot of other stuff in our brain, both what we have learned and dNA that was passed on to us by our parents.
I read last week where studies have shown that what our brain tells us our eyes are seeing is 10% based on actual information sent to us from our eyes via the optic nerve, but 90% is based on how are brain interprets it.
Brain anatomy differences in species also raises some interesting questions. When I took human anatomy in college, I learned that, if you compare human and dog brains, the optic nerve (eyes) in the humans is HUGE, and the olfactory (sense of smell) nerves are really very small. However, in dogs, its the exact opposite: dogs’ optic nerves are really small but their olfactory nerves are huge.
So it raises questions about how dogs “see” the world.
What they smell is far more important to how they react to the world than what they can see.
By: Political Amazon on December 7, 2008
at 2:31 PM
Hi, Helen,
I am in agreement with you 100%. Your eloquent argument, complete with statements that provided hearty laughs, will hopefully give Greg some truthful perspective. Thanks for providing the homework on Max Cleland. The Repu-bagaboo-ican’ts just will not ever give anyone who is “other” a break. Stupid falls out of every crack and, left unchecked, just grows into bigger stupid. Stupid is as stupid does, and there are so many sheep that would rather just be led to the slaughter rather than WAKE UP. KEEP on Sarah Palin until she goes away and shuts the hell up. Thank you, as always, for your WONDERFUL blog and your biting commentary.
By: Susan on December 7, 2008
at 12:07 PM
Helen, you are so right…….always. The nay saying 28% have nothing positive to say about their side so they have to make stuff up. You are absolutely correct about Max Cleland………that Greg dude has been drinkin the coolaid and listening to Rush, Ann and all the other vile righty talkers. That jackass Saxby from Georgia should have been locked up once he started spewing the lies about Cleland. He is a much worse abomination than Mrs Palin will ever be and she is hideous.
Mrs Palin is the least attractive person on the planet because of who she is, not what she looks like. The good ole boys at the top of the Repub party will not allow her to become a candidate again. She will always be ignorant, vile, viscious and willing to do anything to get her 15 minutes of fame…….again and again and again.
The racist and ignorant portion of the Republican party will be screaming for the next 4 years about Barack Obama. He has the insurrmountable task of cleaning up after the worst president in the history of the United States. The Republicans who have a clue, and there are many, will work with him and the Democrats to right this mess.
People like Greg will support candidates and vote in their own worst interests because Rush told them to or because their church told them to. None of them ever read or research anything.
40% of the 72% who voted for Barack Obama are in the top 2% economically in this country. They voted for him knowing their taxes would go up, they voted for him because they are smart enough to understand the platform he was running on. They care about their country. Limbaugh and his acolytes only care about one thing………me, me, me, and to hell with everyone else. And because they have no candidate to believe in they trash everyone else.
This country was prosperous under Bill Clinton. His indecressions were personal. They did not put the country at risk and American lives on the line……..dear Greg was probably livin the good life in the 90s.
Retreads?? Yes, that is right out of Limbaugh’s mouth. What is wrong with using people in your administration with experience?? We were the power country under Bill Clinton, we had the respect of all nations. Hillary can run circles around Condi in the SOS dept.
We have had pals and cronnies running things: “heck of a job Brownie”. Now we need people who bring to the table their own brains, ideas and experiences.
Greg and his band of silly sore losers will keep on fussing, listening to their sacred Rush and they too will reap the benefits of a decent president but they will never admit it…………. Please remember, dear Greg that Mrs Palin sounded like an idiot on FOX news, too………Shawn Hannity made her sound like an idiot and he is one of the biggest idiots on the TV !!!!!!
There is no liberal media on the TV, Greg. All of the stations are owned by 5 of the most conservative conglommerates in the country…….do some research, dude !!!!!!!!
By: Joy on December 7, 2008
at 11:06 AM
Religion is the opiate of the people; faith, however, is a whole ‘nother thing. Religion – i.e. organized religion – is an opiate because it focuses attention on a false reality – a better life in another life sort of thing. Faith is found in all walks of life – and yes, conservative Republican evangelicals, faith is found in science too. When we make an hypothesis and then work towards proving/disproving the hypothesis, we operate on faith – faith in the ability of human intelligence to “divine” an answer, and we don’t believe that all answers are necessarily valid or conclusive. When science looks at the universe, we are awed – and it is with faith that we seek to touch the stars, not merely admire them. It is my sincere opinion that scientists often hold the deepest form of faith.
By: Greytdog on December 7, 2008
at 11:06 AM
Hi Ann.
If I can bring a smile to at least one persons face per day, I figure I’ve done my job. Truthfully, I’m a stand-up comedian in another life. I went to medical school and found out my only real talent was my bedside manner with children. So I decided to become a ‘Pedia-median’…
…or a ‘Comedia-trician’ if you prefer.
~ PEACE ~ Δ
By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 7, 2008
at 11:05 AM
Whirled Peas – You crack me up!!!
By: Ann on December 7, 2008
at 9:47 AM
M&H please keep blogging.. I love dropping by for a piece of pie!
Jim in NH, we do not want Sara Palin here. While I’m not conservative, I love the “Live Free or Die” philosophy of the state. Sara Palin not the New Hampshire kind of conservative. We work together as a community here of both liberal and conservative, it’s the small town nature of our state. We don’t go for demonizing our opponents. We work in collaboration with our neighbors because we have to see them at work, at the store and at town meeting.
M&H please keep doing what you are doing!!
By: Leigh on December 7, 2008
at 9:34 AM
Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center
“Psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences.”
Extinction vs Evolution ~ Change or Die!
☮Δ
By: Whirled Peas ~ ☮Δ on December 7, 2008
at 9:33 AM
Also, in reading some of the links mentioned in this thread , it seems possible to draw a conclusion that the way we interpret material is based in part on whether or not we have a liberal type of brain or a conservative….
By: Ann on December 7, 2008
at 9:09 AM
Jean; The Old Testament does not sanction polygamy or slavery…although some did engage in these practices.For example, Isaac only had one wife because he was particularly holy since he had been offered as a sacrifice.The status of women was different-both cherished and discounted at times;leading,prophecying, and then breeding only if a concubine from a different tribe.Of course your religious affiliation,training,interpretive sources, will determine the meaning found in The Old Testament.The meaning might even be more varied than the opinions of the Supreme Court JudgesI think, even without any changes.I suppose that is why we place such value on the choice of The Supreme Court Justices; and why the Old Testament is not just the spin given by Christian Fundamentalists.
By: Ann on December 7, 2008
at 8:36 AM
God and his magic baby again. Religion is the opiate of the people.
Guess I really am a communist after all.
By: troutay on December 7, 2008
at 8:19 AM